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To: rktman
I agree with this article almost completely, even though my wife and I like our EV. Them forcing us into EV's doesn't make sense in a lot of situations and producing EV's isn't exactly a clean process. And forcing folks to drive EV's make it tough for people living in apartments who can't charge at home.

Although, one thing I'd change in the article is pricing. You can get a 300-mile range (realistically call it about 250-mile range if you use the A/C and drive with a lead foot like I do) Kia EV6 for about $42K. Yes, the average price of EV's is a lot higher, but those include Teslas and very high end cars like Porsche EV's. Add about $4K for charger installation (I suggest installing a 240V/50A outlet in your garage and get a plug-in charger so that you can replace the charger if needed without hiring another electrician, much like you don't need an electrician to replace your 240V electric dryer). So now we're talking $46K. Not too bad IMHO for a car that charges in 20 minutes on the road (with a 350kW charger). And that price is artificially inflated by the $7,500 tax credit (it'd be $38K to $39K without the tax credit).

Don't get me wrong. There are plenty of problems with pushing people to EV's. Most notably a thing called freedom -- the gubment ain't got no business telling us what we can and can't drive. Then there's the grid not being able to support it. And what to do when it's time to dispose all the lithium batteries. But the initial purchase price of an EV is coming down to affordable levels (if you're in the market for a new car anyway). It remains to be seen how cheap a bunch of used EV's will be. It'd be nice if they get cheap like buying a used ICE car.

I recommend we make our argument against government intrusion in our choices by using real and correct information. That means the purchase price of an EV is no longer a valid argument.

16 posted on 07/12/2022 10:47:35 AM PDT by Tell It Right (1st Thessalonians 5:21 -- Put everything to the test, hold fast to that which is true.)
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To: Tell It Right

You forgot to mention monthly payments and the insurance (which I understand is a lot higher than on the gas auto you may have now) like our 1997 Ford. Paid for and insurance is very reasonable. Who’s got $4000 to install another electric outlet?


29 posted on 07/12/2022 11:24:04 AM PDT by JoJo354 (Pray for our nation! It needs it!)
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To: Tell It Right

So while we’re using all that “real and correct” information maybe you could throw in the part about the business of battery construction and re-cycling being the dirtiest business on the planet. How is it that is never mentioned in the benefits of EV’s? And don’t fail to mention the increase in your home insurance from the increased risk of fire in your garage? Or the cost of a detached garage to protect your house? Somewhere in there should be the cost of the replacement battery. I can buy a lot of five dollar gas for the cost of a 10,000 dollar battery.


40 posted on 07/12/2022 12:52:10 PM PDT by OldWarBaby
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To: Tell It Right

I guess you have not seen a deep dive into total operating costs, the best equivalency figures were at 5.9 mpg for electric.


55 posted on 07/12/2022 2:27:36 PM PDT by BrandtMichaels ( Why I Oughta! Tired of leftards... Bang, Zoom, To The Moon!)
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