Posted on 07/02/2022 9:51:25 AM PDT by aimhigh
In response to last week’s Supreme Court ruling that removed the requirement for “proper cause” when seeking out a concealed carry permit, New York has made a bold move to lay down a number of additional requirements and rules surrounding the permitting process, and carrying firearms.
Places that will be off-limits (some are currently banned places) when the new laws take effect September 1st 2022 are:
schools
universities
government buildings
places where people have gathered for public protests
health care facilities
places of worship
libraries
public playgrounds and parks
day care centers
summer camps
addiction and mental health centers
shelters
public transit
times square
bars
theaters
stadiums
museums
polling places
casinos
In addition, the law defaults all private property as no-carry zones, unless the owner of that property has signage up allowing the carrying of concealed firearms.
(Excerpt) Read more at concealednation.org ...
Five minutes after the SCOTUS released the NYSRPA opinion on June 23, I predicted exactly what the state has now done. Dear leader knows that the new laws are mostly unconstitutional, but that the judicial review process will take years. With that said, I expect the NYSRPA to challenge the laws in the conservative upstate counties. Also, the SCOTUS’s June 23 decision affirms that the 2nd Amendment is a fundamental right just like freedom of the press, religion, speech, equal protection, etc. The SCOTUS also opined that while government may restrict concealed carry in certain historically recognized “special places,” it cannot declare that every public space is special so as to effectively negate the 2nd Amendment right to carry a concealed weapon outside the home. As a result, I expect lawsuits that not only challenge the constitutionality of the new laws, but also seek damages, including legal fees and punitive damages under the Civil Rights Act, 42 USC §1983.
hard to imagine that will stand up in court but this is what these communist do. They know it will take years to unwind this law and will cost a lot of money to do it. In the meantime, they impose unlawful laws on law abiding citizens.
“I am from Buffalo. Kathy Hochul was a local politician. She was county clerk. She ran for Congress. At the time, she was against driver’s licenses for illegals, for gun rights, and against abortion. Not bad for a Democrat. Upstate New York is significantly more conservative than downstate. When she got elevated to State politics, when she was elected lieutenant governor, she sure changed her stance. The proximity to power has really gone to her head. To say she is a political whore, is putting it mildly.”
Exactly like Kirsten Gillibrand. Got into the Senate and became Schumer’s sockpuppet.
Thomas will be retired by the time this makes it to the Supreme Court.
Fortunately, where I live, permits, licenses, waiting periods, registration...not required.
“In addition, the law defaults all private property as no-carry zones, unless the owner of that property has signage up allowing the carrying of concealed firearms.”
This provision may be the easiest to overturn because it requires citizens to sacrifice their fundamental 1st Amendment rights in order to exercise their fundamental 2nd Amendment rights. Specifically, the 1st Amendment protects not only the right to speak, but also the right not to speak. This law forces a person to affirmatively state that CCW is allowed on their property in order to exercise their 2nd Amendment right to carry a concealed firearm on their property.
In addition the social media review as a condition precedent to receiving a CCW permit is also problematic in the absence of objective review standards, and even then, it has a chilling effect upon a person’s fundamental 1st Amendment right right to express themselves at the risk of losing their fundamental right to carry a concealed firearm under the 2nd Amendment.
I would use far more harsh cuss words but your description fits too. ;)
Do applicants have to show photo ID?
Same here. I meant “you” as the indefinite second-person pronoun, referring to an unspecified person in New York.
I think you are wrong about the default being no carry. As I've read it, if there is no sign at all, and it must be a proper sign with specific minimum font sizes, then all carry is allowed. If there is a 30.06 sign, open carry is disallowed. If a 30.07, then concealed carry is prohibited. The 51% signs are not on ALL places with alcohol is served, but means that 51% of the business is alcohol sales. In those locations, all firearm carry is prohibited. Signage to that effect must be posted clearly, and in a specified manner.
Here's the FAQ from Texas DPS: https://www.dps.texas.gov/section/handgun-licensing/faq/laws-relate-carrying-handgun-faqs
From that page: 5. I currently hold an LTC. Where am I not permitted to carry my handgun? A license holder may carry a handgun anywhere in Texas that is not expressly prohibited by law. Those prohibitions appear in several provisions of the Texas Penal Code. The handgun must be either concealed or carried in a holster. See FAQ's Nos. 3 and 4, above.
Under 'prohibited places':
On the premises of a business that derives 51% or more of its income from the sale or service of alcoholic beverages for on-premises consumption; such premises are required to post notices under Texas GC §411.204
Its time for non-compliance of these anti-constitutional “laws”.
Ignore the stupid law. If you’re carrying concealed properly no one will know it except maybe the mugger or carjacker and if you have to shoot to save your life, who cares about a stupid law.
Yep. And those VIPs who had carry permits in NYC will be screwed, too.
If the primary means anything, Highly got about twice as many votes as Zelden. I cannot wrap my head around how people will continue to vote for someone like Hochul.
The ABA went full commie years ago.
Hochul, not highly.
WHEN NY enforces all of that against the gangs & criminals-—LET ME KNOW.
Precisely. We need measures like that to dissuade politicians from partaking in this obvious nonsense.
That’s what I recall also; no sign saying “no” = carry allowed (except those places listed “no carry” such as courthouses etc).
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