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If The U.S. Is Giving Ukraine Real-Time Battlefield Intel, Congress Needs To Vote On It
The Federalist ^ | MAY 06, 2022 | JOHN DANIEL DAVIDSON

Posted on 05/07/2022 11:04:27 AM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum

It’s not too much to ask that Congress debate and vote on whether to authorize a U.S. march to war that’s now well underway.

The New York Times claimed this week that the United States is providing real-time battlefield intelligence to Ukraine that has enabled the Ukrainians to target and kill approximately a dozen Russian generals, and helped >locate and strike the flagship of Russia’s Black Sea fleet last month.

Described as a “classified effort,” the U.S. provision of targeting intelligence to Ukraine “also includes anticipated Russian troop movements gleaned from recent American assessments of Moscow’s secret battle plan for the fighting in the Donbas region of eastern Ukraine,” according to the Times.

The Times’ reporting relies on anonymous “senior American officials,” but if true it represents a sharp and unprecedented escalation of U.S. involvement in the Russo-Ukrainian war, such that Congress should immediately debate and vote on whether to authorize the use of military force in Ukraine.

Indeed, providing real-time targeting intelligence brings the United States right up to the line of belligerence, and arguably over it. The Biden administration seems to understand this. According to the Times, the administration “has sought to keep much of the battlefield intelligence secret, out of fear it will be seen as an escalation and provoke President Vladimir V. Putin of Russia into a wider war.”

The White House is right to fear this outcome, because it’s entirely possible that Putin will absolutely consider this level of battlefield participation by the United States tantamount to an act of war. That’s no doubt why the Biden administration snapped into damage control mode after the Times story about targeting intelligence published on Wednesday.

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1 posted on 05/07/2022 11:04:27 AM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

It is pretty much an act of war. At least that would have been enough back in the day.


2 posted on 05/07/2022 11:08:28 AM PDT by glorgau
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

joey wants this war


3 posted on 05/07/2022 11:10:26 AM PDT by mylife (It looks just like a telefunken U47... (===)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

If only our leaders were to be constrained by the Constitution they swore to uphold and defend.

Wouldn’t that be awesome!


4 posted on 05/07/2022 11:10:59 AM PDT by Oscar in Batangas (An Honors Graduate from the Don Rickles School of Personal Verbal Intercourse)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

The Democrats must have been doing some really dirty stuff in Ukraine.


5 posted on 05/07/2022 11:12:21 AM PDT by blueunicorn6 ("A crack shot and a good dancer”)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

Apparently not.


6 posted on 05/07/2022 11:14:02 AM PDT by Jeff Chandler (THE ISSUE IS NEVER THE ISSUE. THE REVOLUTION IS THE ISSUE.)
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To: mylife

Yes, the war with Russia is the only chance democrats have of distracting voters from record high inflation and illegals flooding in from southern border.


7 posted on 05/07/2022 11:14:09 AM PDT by entropy12 (No vaccine can "prevent" infection. Vaccines can help after infection with additional anti-bodies.)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

I really wonder if US Special Operation Troops are in Ukraine! It would not surprise me!


8 posted on 05/07/2022 11:14:29 AM PDT by LoveMyFreedom
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“If The U.S. Is Giving Ukraine Real-Time Battlefield Intel, Congress Needs To Vote On It”

Oh PLEASE, if the Neocons want to bring this country into WW3 against Russia, why should Congress get a say in it?


9 posted on 05/07/2022 11:14:32 AM PDT by BobL (Putin isn't sending gays into our schools to groom my children, but anti-Putin people are)
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To: LoveMyFreedom

“I really wonder if US Special Operation Troops are in Ukraine! It would not surprise me!”

Of course they are, although I wonder how much they really want to be there...


10 posted on 05/07/2022 11:15:47 AM PDT by BobL (Putin isn't sending gays into our schools to groom my children, but anti-Putin people are)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum
But this can't be.

I was told by homo Zelenskyy back-up dancers here on FR that the US wasn't involved.

11 posted on 05/07/2022 11:18:24 AM PDT by Extremely Extreme Extremist
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The Democrats must have been doing some really dirty stuff in Ukraine.

Child sex trafficking
Money laundering
Bio-labs
Regime change and mass murders of Ukrainian citizens in 2014

12 posted on 05/07/2022 11:19:58 AM PDT by Extremely Extreme Extremist
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To: E. Pluribus Unum
So now every decision to share intel has to be supervised by Congress?

The Constitution didn't create a regime like the Dutch Republic of the early 18th Century, where military decisions had to be sent back to parliament for approval.

The Constitution forces a choice on Congress: either (a) cut the defense budget and reduce the military's size and avoid or repudiate treaty obligations that entangle the US in military affairs all over the globe; or, (b) react to perceived threats and interests by funding a huge military and intel apparatus that has the effect of putting the President in the driver's seat.

All this, "Congress needs to approve" twaddle is a product of political wrangling over the Vietnam War and has no legal precedent behind it.

13 posted on 05/07/2022 11:20:15 AM PDT by pierrem15 ("Massacrez-les, car le seigneur connait les siens" )
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suppose we dont do this

how do we prove that to the satisfaction
of the Russians?


14 posted on 05/07/2022 11:20:38 AM PDT by RockyTx
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15 posted on 05/07/2022 11:23:24 AM PDT by Extremely Extreme Extremist
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To: entropy12
Yes, the war with Russia is the only chance democrats have of distracting voters from record high inflation and illegals flooding in from southern border.

If that's the plan, it isn't working. Plus a large number of American's realize that the Ukraine war is yet another dumpster fire caused by the corrupt incompetence of this illegitimate regime.

Biden's approval ratings are the lowest ever recorded since 1945 despite the ceaseless efforts of the media propaganda corps to prop up this filthy regime.

16 posted on 05/07/2022 11:23:34 AM PDT by pierrem15 ("Massacrez-les, car le seigneur connait les siens" )
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To: pierrem15

Only congress can declare war. What the US is doing are clearly acts of war. But hey, you won’t have to fight it. So who cares, right?


17 posted on 05/07/2022 11:24:30 AM PDT by JoSixChip (2020: The year of unreported truths; 2021: My main take away from this year? Trust no one.)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

An event is not the cause of a war until the other side wants it to be. The US Navy, while running convoy protection in WWII was under orders to destroy U-boats if the opportunity afforded itself. They dropped depth charges and they took torpedoes. One American ship was sunk. This is why Hitler declared war after Pearl Harbor. He figured we were already at war, and he could strike first and do enough damage to knock Britain out of the war.

The Japanese bombed the USS Panay in China. They apologized but there was no doubt it was on purpose. The US is not beyond provoking or even faking an attack as a cause of war, the Tonkin Gulf incident comes to mind. But no war will be declared until the other side decides it is to its advantage to do so.

I’d say we are playing a dangerous game and the guy leading us is not up to playing it without tipping his hand.


18 posted on 05/07/2022 11:25:29 AM PDT by Gen.Blather (Wait! I said that out loud. Sorry.)
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist
The "bio-labs" claims have to be the singularly most stupid argument I've ever seen on FR. Russia also received funding from those programs and they were publicly discussed at the time. It's simply ludicrous propaganda to claim there was some "secret bio-weapons" scheme being funded.

As far as killing Ukrainian citizens: Now they're Ukrainians? I thought they were helpless oppressed Russians yearning for reunification with the rodina.

19 posted on 05/07/2022 11:28:17 AM PDT by pierrem15 ("Massacrez-les, car le seigneur connait les siens" )
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

Congress is too busy with drug-fueled orgies to vote on something unimportant like that.


20 posted on 05/07/2022 11:28:31 AM PDT by MeneMeneTekelUpharsin (Freedom is the freedom to discipline yourself so others don't have to do it for you.)
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