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1 posted on 05/07/2022 11:04:27 AM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum
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It is pretty much an act of war. At least that would have been enough back in the day.


2 posted on 05/07/2022 11:08:28 AM PDT by glorgau
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joey wants this war


3 posted on 05/07/2022 11:10:26 AM PDT by mylife (It looks just like a telefunken U47... (===)
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If only our leaders were to be constrained by the Constitution they swore to uphold and defend.

Wouldn’t that be awesome!


4 posted on 05/07/2022 11:10:59 AM PDT by Oscar in Batangas (An Honors Graduate from the Don Rickles School of Personal Verbal Intercourse)
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The Democrats must have been doing some really dirty stuff in Ukraine.


5 posted on 05/07/2022 11:12:21 AM PDT by blueunicorn6 ("A crack shot and a good dancer”)
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Apparently not.


6 posted on 05/07/2022 11:14:02 AM PDT by Jeff Chandler (THE ISSUE IS NEVER THE ISSUE. THE REVOLUTION IS THE ISSUE.)
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I really wonder if US Special Operation Troops are in Ukraine! It would not surprise me!


8 posted on 05/07/2022 11:14:29 AM PDT by LoveMyFreedom
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“If The U.S. Is Giving Ukraine Real-Time Battlefield Intel, Congress Needs To Vote On It”

Oh PLEASE, if the Neocons want to bring this country into WW3 against Russia, why should Congress get a say in it?


9 posted on 05/07/2022 11:14:32 AM PDT by BobL (Putin isn't sending gays into our schools to groom my children, but anti-Putin people are)
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But this can't be.

I was told by homo Zelenskyy back-up dancers here on FR that the US wasn't involved.

11 posted on 05/07/2022 11:18:24 AM PDT by Extremely Extreme Extremist
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So now every decision to share intel has to be supervised by Congress?

The Constitution didn't create a regime like the Dutch Republic of the early 18th Century, where military decisions had to be sent back to parliament for approval.

The Constitution forces a choice on Congress: either (a) cut the defense budget and reduce the military's size and avoid or repudiate treaty obligations that entangle the US in military affairs all over the globe; or, (b) react to perceived threats and interests by funding a huge military and intel apparatus that has the effect of putting the President in the driver's seat.

All this, "Congress needs to approve" twaddle is a product of political wrangling over the Vietnam War and has no legal precedent behind it.

13 posted on 05/07/2022 11:20:15 AM PDT by pierrem15 ("Massacrez-les, car le seigneur connait les siens" )
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suppose we dont do this

how do we prove that to the satisfaction
of the Russians?


14 posted on 05/07/2022 11:20:38 AM PDT by RockyTx
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15 posted on 05/07/2022 11:23:24 AM PDT by Extremely Extreme Extremist
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An event is not the cause of a war until the other side wants it to be. The US Navy, while running convoy protection in WWII was under orders to destroy U-boats if the opportunity afforded itself. They dropped depth charges and they took torpedoes. One American ship was sunk. This is why Hitler declared war after Pearl Harbor. He figured we were already at war, and he could strike first and do enough damage to knock Britain out of the war.

The Japanese bombed the USS Panay in China. They apologized but there was no doubt it was on purpose. The US is not beyond provoking or even faking an attack as a cause of war, the Tonkin Gulf incident comes to mind. But no war will be declared until the other side decides it is to its advantage to do so.

I’d say we are playing a dangerous game and the guy leading us is not up to playing it without tipping his hand.


18 posted on 05/07/2022 11:25:29 AM PDT by Gen.Blather (Wait! I said that out loud. Sorry.)
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Congress is too busy with drug-fueled orgies to vote on something unimportant like that.


20 posted on 05/07/2022 11:28:31 AM PDT by MeneMeneTekelUpharsin (Freedom is the freedom to discipline yourself so others don't have to do it for you.)
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There is no such requirement and it’s exactly the kind of thing you don’t overly publicize.


22 posted on 05/07/2022 11:33:09 AM PDT by Williams (Stop Tolerating The Intolerant)
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Russia has top down surveillance on Ukraine for decades and shouldn’t whine. Even knowing where every single piece of Ukie hardware is at all times, they failed to gain territory everywhere that is majority Ukrainian.

This is simply making the fight closer to a fair duel with equal technology. Instead of a superpower with spy satellites beating down on a blind neighbor.


30 posted on 05/07/2022 12:05:06 PM PDT by varyouga
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There’s no reason for libertarian flunkies to continue to work themselves into frenzies with that weak propaganda. They and the Russians have lost the war before it started. Several rich libertarians, in their desires for continuing globalism, have said that “there will be no more wars.” They were wrong.


48 posted on 05/07/2022 4:03:28 PM PDT by familyop ("For they that sleep with dogs, shall rise with fleas" (John Webster, "The White Devil" 1612).)
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sooo, what else was on Hunter’s laptop?


51 posted on 05/08/2022 10:01:42 AM PDT by CarolinaReaganFan
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We used to be much better at classified operations. That seems impossible today. All it takes is for one Democrat who works for the Washington Post to divulge all the secrets and guess what? The reporters are going to run the story. Who cares if we get nuked anyway? At least we are telling the Russians that they are the bad guys.


52 posted on 05/08/2022 12:16:56 PM PDT by MinorityRepublican
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