Posted on 04/05/2022 8:55:38 AM PDT by marcusmaximus
Russian conscripts are being given 19th century rifles, made to drink from ponds filled with dead frogs and ordered to draw enemy fire, they have revealed.
Soldiers in the Russian-backed Donbas region have spoken of how they have been sent to fight Ukraine's forces with no training, a lack of food and water, and inadequate equipment - as Moscow's armies continue to suffer heavy losses.
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The Donbas armed forces are fighting alongside Russian soldiers but are not part of the Russian armed forces, which have different rules about which troops they send into combat.
Several Donbas draftees have been issued with a rifle called a Mosin, which was developed in the late 19th century and went out of production decades ago, according to three people who saw conscripts from the separatist region using the weapon.
Images shared on social media, that Reuters was not able to verify independently, also showed Donbas fighters with Mosin rifles.
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The same source said some conscripts were issued with the Mosin rifle from reserve stocks that date back to the Second World War.
The student conscript said he has seen fellow fighters using the rifle: 'It's like we're fighting with World War Two muskets.'
A soldier in the Russian armed forces who is fighting near Mariupol told Reuters he had seen soldiers from the Donetsk separatist military carrying Mosin rifles. A video posted on social media on Tuesday by Russian military journalist Semyon Pegov showed a man who said he was a Donbas draftee brandishing a Mosin rifle.
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Russian ground forces are around 250K so they are primarily draftees. There is not a lot of professionalism in their ground forces. Still the idea that the troops are issued WW2 weapons is ridiculous. As is the idea that there is some mass of elite units waiting for the right time to be committed. The goal of any war is to win it as quickly as possible with as little loss as possible. If elite Russian forces existed in large numbers they would have already been employed..
Well at least they were not issued Lakota or Apache bows and arrows!!! Maybe even Roman Legion spears and sheilds.
Uh, no. The Mauser model 1898 rifle was developed in....... 1898.
Those rifles have scopes. The old mosin nagants (or most any of the military bolt action rifles) are pretty accurate at long ranges.
It was copied in 1898.
The Russian generals seem to be indifferent to the suffering of draftees. I think the professionalism of the Russian army was overestimated. Back in WW2, the Red Army used to march political prisoners through minefields to clear mines.
When the Russians were in Afghanistan, I remember seeing a photo o two muhadjideen armed with Indian manufactured 1853 pattern Enfield rifle muskets (muzzle loaders).
“ I had a mauser 1898 that these were copied from.”
The Mauser 1898 and its predecessors the 1895, 1893, 1891. Are a different design bolt action then the Mosin-Nagant. The Mosin is based on the Mannlicher style bolt action. Similar to the Dutch Mannlicher and Italian Carcano.
I wouldn't turn down a Lee-Enfield Mk1, Krag-Jorgensen, Colt 1911, M1917 Revolver, M1928A1 Tommy Gun, M1 Garand, M2 Browning "Ma Deuce", or an M3 Grease Gun, all from WWII or earlier.
Most of this “war” is nothing but lies and garbage.
Remember, the same people pushing this trash are the same ones who pushed The Great Scamdemic and say things like, “You will own nothing and like it.”
Don’t listen to these Satanic vermin. Instead, one should pray and do as Almighty God asks of us.
From wiki if you want to be picki
Like the Gewehr 98, the 1891 Mosin uses two front-locking lugs to lock up the action. However, the Mosin’s lugs lock in the horizontal position, whereas the Mauser locks vertically. The Mosin bolt body is multi-piece whereas the Mauser is one piece. The Mosin uses interchangeable bolt heads like the Lee–Enfield. Unlike the Mauser, which uses a controlled feed bolt head in which the cartridge base snaps up under the fixed extractor as the cartridge is fed from the magazine, the Mosin has a push feed recessed bolt head in which the spring-loaded extractor snaps over the cartridge base as the bolt is finally closed similar to the Gewehr 1888 and M91 Carcano or modern sporting rifles like the Remington 700. Like the Mauser, the Mosin uses a blade ejector mounted in the receiver. The Mosin bolt is removed by simply pulling it fully to the rear of the receiver and squeezing the trigger, while the Mauser has a bolt stop lever separate from the trigger.
Like the Mauser, the bolt lift arc on the Mosin–Nagant is 90 degrees, versus 60 degrees on the Lee–Enfield. The Mauser bolt handle is at the rear of the bolt body and locks behind the solid rear receiver ring. The Mosin bolt handle is similar to the Mannlicher: it is attached to a protrusion on the middle of the bolt body, which serves as a bolt guide, and it locks protruding out of the ejection/loading port in front of a split rear receiver ring, also serving a similar function to Mauser’s “third” or “safety” lug.
The rifling of the Mosin barrel is right turning (clockwise looking down the rifle) 4-groove with a twist of 1:9.5” or 1:10”. The 5-round fixed metallic magazine can either be loaded by inserting the cartridges individually, or more often in military service, by the use of 5-round stripper clips.[5]
“Isn’t the Mosin Nagant a sniper rifle, from WWII?”
Yes
But do they use the proper pronouns?
3 of my mother’s uncles managed to get themselves killed at Gallipoli when they were shot by these types of guns ...
or whatever the Turks were using ...
Theyre still dead ...
The design was almost wholly stolen from the Mauser 98.
More importantly were they jabbed 2X and boostered ???
Matt's revenge was sweet with his grandfather's Colt Single Action Army (1873)
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