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Russian conscripts are being given 19th century rifles, made to drink from ponds filled with dead frogs due to lack of supplies and ordered to run in front of enemy soldiers to draw their fire, they reveal
Daily Mail ^ | 4/5/2022 | Chris Jewers

Posted on 04/05/2022 8:55:38 AM PDT by marcusmaximus

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To: Paleo Conservative

Russian ground forces are around 250K so they are primarily draftees. There is not a lot of professionalism in their ground forces. Still the idea that the troops are issued WW2 weapons is ridiculous. As is the idea that there is some mass of elite units waiting for the right time to be committed. The goal of any war is to win it as quickly as possible with as little loss as possible. If elite Russian forces existed in large numbers they would have already been employed..


41 posted on 04/05/2022 9:27:18 AM PDT by xkaydet65 ( )
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To: marcusmaximus

Well at least they were not issued Lakota or Apache bows and arrows!!! Maybe even Roman Legion spears and sheilds.


42 posted on 04/05/2022 9:29:28 AM PDT by RetiredArmy (Free Will. GOD gives you the choice I accept or reject Him! Choose Him. It depends on you.)
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To: ImJustAnotherOkie
"My 1898 was developed about then too. My 1898 was a spanish clone of older mauser."

Uh, no. The Mauser model 1898 rifle was developed in....... 1898.

43 posted on 04/05/2022 9:29:37 AM PDT by Godebert
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To: Mmogamer

Those rifles have scopes. The old mosin nagants (or most any of the military bolt action rifles) are pretty accurate at long ranges.


44 posted on 04/05/2022 9:32:48 AM PDT by glorgau
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To: Godebert

It was copied in 1898.


45 posted on 04/05/2022 9:36:20 AM PDT by ImJustAnotherOkie (Let's go Brandon)
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To: xkaydet65
Russian ground forces are around 250K so they are primarily draftees. There is not a lot of professionalism in their ground forces. Still the idea that the troops are issued WW2 weapons is ridiculous. As is the idea that there is some mass of elite units waiting for the right time to be committed. The goal of any war is to win it as quickly as possible with as little loss as possible. If elite Russian forces existed in large numbers they would have already been employed..

The Russian generals seem to be indifferent to the suffering of draftees. I think the professionalism of the Russian army was overestimated. Back in WW2, the Red Army used to march political prisoners through minefields to clear mines.

46 posted on 04/05/2022 9:39:02 AM PDT by Paleo Conservative ( )
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To: marcusmaximus

boil the water and eat the frogs

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U7SSImPYByk


47 posted on 04/05/2022 9:39:19 AM PDT by Redmen4ever
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To: RetiredArmy

When the Russians were in Afghanistan, I remember seeing a photo o two muhadjideen armed with Indian manufactured 1853 pattern Enfield rifle muskets (muzzle loaders).


48 posted on 04/05/2022 9:42:09 AM PDT by Bull Snipe
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To: ImJustAnotherOkie

“ I had a mauser 1898 that these were copied from.”
The Mauser 1898 and its predecessors the 1895, 1893, 1891. Are a different design bolt action then the Mosin-Nagant. The Mosin is based on the Mannlicher style bolt action. Similar to the Dutch Mannlicher and Italian Carcano.


49 posted on 04/05/2022 9:46:55 AM PDT by MCF (If my home can't be my Castle, then it will be my Alamo)
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To: carriage_hill
Isn’t the Mosin Nagant a sniper rifle, from WWII?

I wouldn't turn down a Lee-Enfield Mk1, Krag-Jorgensen, Colt 1911, M1917 Revolver, M1928A1 Tommy Gun, M1 Garand, M2 Browning "Ma Deuce", or an M3 Grease Gun, all from WWII or earlier.

50 posted on 04/05/2022 9:50:42 AM PDT by T.B. Yoits
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To: Clean_Sweep

Most of this “war” is nothing but lies and garbage.

Remember, the same people pushing this trash are the same ones who pushed The Great Scamdemic and say things like, “You will own nothing and like it.”

Don’t listen to these Satanic vermin. Instead, one should pray and do as Almighty God asks of us.


51 posted on 04/05/2022 9:51:37 AM PDT by Prole
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To: MCF

From wiki if you want to be picki

Like the Gewehr 98, the 1891 Mosin uses two front-locking lugs to lock up the action. However, the Mosin’s lugs lock in the horizontal position, whereas the Mauser locks vertically. The Mosin bolt body is multi-piece whereas the Mauser is one piece. The Mosin uses interchangeable bolt heads like the Lee–Enfield. Unlike the Mauser, which uses a controlled feed bolt head in which the cartridge base snaps up under the fixed extractor as the cartridge is fed from the magazine, the Mosin has a push feed recessed bolt head in which the spring-loaded extractor snaps over the cartridge base as the bolt is finally closed similar to the Gewehr 1888 and M91 Carcano or modern sporting rifles like the Remington 700. Like the Mauser, the Mosin uses a blade ejector mounted in the receiver. The Mosin bolt is removed by simply pulling it fully to the rear of the receiver and squeezing the trigger, while the Mauser has a bolt stop lever separate from the trigger.

Like the Mauser, the bolt lift arc on the Mosin–Nagant is 90 degrees, versus 60 degrees on the Lee–Enfield. The Mauser bolt handle is at the rear of the bolt body and locks behind the solid rear receiver ring. The Mosin bolt handle is similar to the Mannlicher: it is attached to a protrusion on the middle of the bolt body, which serves as a bolt guide, and it locks protruding out of the ejection/loading port in front of a split rear receiver ring, also serving a similar function to Mauser’s “third” or “safety” lug.

The rifling of the Mosin barrel is right turning (clockwise looking down the rifle) 4-groove with a twist of 1:9.5” or 1:10”. The 5-round fixed metallic magazine can either be loaded by inserting the cartridges individually, or more often in military service, by the use of 5-round stripper clips.[5]


52 posted on 04/05/2022 9:57:57 AM PDT by ImJustAnotherOkie (Let's go Brandon)
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To: carriage_hill

“Isn’t the Mosin Nagant a sniper rifle, from WWII?”

Yes


53 posted on 04/05/2022 10:00:04 AM PDT by dljordan
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To: marcusmaximus

But do they use the proper pronouns?


54 posted on 04/05/2022 10:00:57 AM PDT by bray (The Vax is fake and deadly)
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To: marcusmaximus
The fags at Daily Mail don't get out much it seems.


55 posted on 04/05/2022 10:01:49 AM PDT by montag813
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To: marktwain
That’s the set-up that “starred” in Sniper 2, though it was hilariously refered to as a Mauser ‘98.
56 posted on 04/05/2022 10:03:19 AM PDT by gundog ( It was a bright cold day in April, and the clocks were striking thirteen. )
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To: marcusmaximus

3 of my mother’s uncles managed to get themselves killed at Gallipoli when they were shot by these types of guns ...

or whatever the Turks were using ...

Theyre still dead ...


57 posted on 04/05/2022 10:08:12 AM PDT by Tennessee Nana
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To: blackdog

The design was almost wholly stolen from the Mauser 98.


58 posted on 04/05/2022 10:08:55 AM PDT by gundog ( It was a bright cold day in April, and the clocks were striking thirteen. )
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To: bray

More importantly were they jabbed 2X and boostered ???


59 posted on 04/05/2022 10:09:26 AM PDT by Tennessee Nana
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To: marcusmaximus
The kids in "Red Dawn" made do with some very old weapons.

Matt's revenge was sweet with his grandfather's Colt Single Action Army (1873)


60 posted on 04/05/2022 10:10:07 AM PDT by montag813
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