Posted on 03/28/2022 12:57:27 PM PDT by marcusmaximus
Russia is no longer requesting Ukraine be “denazified” and is prepared to let Kyiv join the EU if it remains military non-aligned as part of ongoing ceasefire negotiations, according to four people briefed on the discussions.
Moscow and Kyiv are discussing a pause in hostilities as part of a possible deal that would involve Ukraine abandoning its drive for Nato membership in exchange for security guarantees and the prospect to join the EU, the people said under the condition of anonymity because the matter is not yet finalised.
The draft ceasefire document does not contain any discussion of three of Russia’s initial core demands — “denazification”, “demilitarisation”, and legal protection for the Russian language in Ukraine — the people added.
Envoys from both sides are to meet in Istanbul on Tuesday in a fourth round of peace talks designed to end president Vladimir Putin’s full-scale invasion of Ukraine. The concessions on Russia’s side come as its month-long ground offensive has largely stalled as a result of fiercer Ukrainian resistance than expected and Russian operational deficiencies.
But Ukraine and its western backers remain sceptical of Putin’s intentions, worrying that the Russian president could be using the talks as a smokescreen to replenish his exhausted forces and plan a fresh offensive.
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They should denazify Russia.
So this means Zelensky can stay in power?
The draft communiqué under consideration leaves the biggest sticking point — Ukraine’s attempts to reclaim territory seized by Russia since 2014 — to be settled in a tentative future discussion by Putin and Zelensky, the people said.
Moscow, Arakhamia said, was demanding that Ukraine recognise Russia’s control over the Crimean peninsula, which Moscow annexed in 2014, as well as two territories run by Russian-backed separatists in the eastern Donbas region.
If Putin and Zelensky reach an agreement, will Biden accept it?
As part of the agreement under consideration, Ukraine would also refrain from developing nuclear weapons, or hosting foreign military bases in addition to abandoning its pursuit of Nato membership.
In exchange, Ukraine would get what Arakhamia called “wording close to Nato’s Article 5” — whereby the alliances’ members must come to each others’ aid if one is attacked — for security guarantees from countries including Russia, the US, the UK, Canada, France, Germany, China, Italy, Poland, Israel, and Turkey.
Probably can’t be too many of them left at this point anyway
“Russia is no longer requesting Ukraine be “denazified” and is prepared to let Kyiv join the EU”
ROFLOL! They are trying to out Putin’s dumpster fire as fast as they can. The Pooties remind me of the vax shills. You just had to sit back and watch as everything they said blew up in their faces.
>> Russia state-affiliated media
That’s gonna be a hard sell.
So it’s essentially NATO except in name. What a huge fold by Russia.
How many times does Putin have to lie before stupid people stop trusting him?
He’ll just use a ceasefire to regroup.
The question is will Biden agree for the U.S. to be one of Ukraine’s security guarantors?
Right now, the only countries on board are UK and Turkey.
Given that Biden and his family are compromised by Russian bribes and blackmail, I don’t think the U.S. will be one of the security guarantors.
From “Russia state-affiliated media.” No bias there, huh?
Russia
*Recognizes the Zelensky regime as the legitimate government of Ukraine.
*Withdraws its troops East of the Dnieper.
*Keeps Crimea and the land bridge which they have conquered. (Including Mariupol)
*Withdraws its troops from the whole of Northern Ukraine entirely.
*Pays reparations for damage to infrastructure in Kiev and elsewhere west of the Dnieper.
Ukraine
*Agrees to the above.
*Recognizes the so-called "breakaway republics" independence.
*Releases the so-called “Donbas” to the so-called “breakaway republics.”
*Is free to join NATO, EU, or any other international consortium without interference from Russia.
Z might as well cede the Donbass along with Crimea and territory needed to assure the people there have access to power and water and can live in peace
The people in what is ALWAYS referred to the “ Russian separatist” areas are NEVER going to be safe and treated well as long as “ extreme right wing Slava Ukraine Bandera-redux orgs ” ( ahem) exert control over Z and are permitted to build their own loyalist security and military organizations, as well as placing their believers in key political and UKR military command positions
It has just been denazified already. No need to talk about it.
It was an impossible thing in the first place, and would be kept in place as long as Putin had the desire to continue the fight. Since he seems to be losing the will to fight, this can be pulled back.
Truth be told, it was probably a lie in the first place. Just like “There are fine people on both sides”, or the Jan 6th insurrection. It was just a talking point pushed to the extreme.
Ukraine was “De-Nazified” in 1943.
Without a doubt but it doesn't compare to the global media fire hose in favor of Sir Robinette of Delaware.
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