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To: BenLurkin

The draft communiqué under consideration leaves the biggest sticking point — Ukraine’s attempts to reclaim territory seized by Russia since 2014 — to be settled in a tentative future discussion by Putin and Zelensky, the people said.

Moscow, Arakhamia said, was demanding that Ukraine recognise Russia’s control over the Crimean peninsula, which Moscow annexed in 2014, as well as two territories run by Russian-backed separatists in the eastern Donbas region.


4 posted on 03/28/2022 1:01:25 PM PDT by marcusmaximus
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To: marcusmaximus
How about this:

Russia
*Recognizes the Zelensky regime as the legitimate government of Ukraine.
*Withdraws its troops East of the Dnieper.
*Keeps Crimea and the land bridge which they have conquered. (Including Mariupol)
*Withdraws its troops from the whole of Northern Ukraine entirely.
*Pays reparations for damage to infrastructure in Kiev and elsewhere west of the Dnieper.

Ukraine
*Agrees to the above.
*Recognizes the so-called "breakaway republics" independence.
*Releases the so-called “Donbas” to the so-called “breakaway republics.”
*Is free to join NATO, EU, or any other international consortium without interference from Russia.

15 posted on 03/28/2022 1:13:17 PM PDT by BenLurkin ((The above is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion, or satire. Or both.))
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To: marcusmaximus

Z might as well cede the Donbass along with Crimea and territory needed to assure the people there have access to power and water and can live in peace

The people in what is ALWAYS referred to the “ Russian separatist” areas are NEVER going to be safe and treated well as long as “ extreme right wing Slava Ukraine Bandera-redux orgs ” ( ahem) exert control over Z and are permitted to build their own loyalist security and military organizations, as well as placing their believers in key political and UKR military command positions


16 posted on 03/28/2022 1:13:59 PM PDT by silverleaf (“Freedom ultimately means the right of other people to do things that you disagree with”. T. Sowell )
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To: marcusmaximus

It seems to me that Ukraine should agree to this, just to stop all the death and destruction.

The Russians keep Crimea but NOT the entire Donetsk and Luhansk provinces, only just those places within the provinces that were already in rebellion.

It’s not like Ukraine controlled them on February 23rd and before, anyways.


60 posted on 03/28/2022 2:27:44 PM PDT by Alas Babylon! (Rush, we're missing your take on all of this!)
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