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To: marcusmaximus
How about this:

Russia
*Recognizes the Zelensky regime as the legitimate government of Ukraine.
*Withdraws its troops East of the Dnieper.
*Keeps Crimea and the land bridge which they have conquered. (Including Mariupol)
*Withdraws its troops from the whole of Northern Ukraine entirely.
*Pays reparations for damage to infrastructure in Kiev and elsewhere west of the Dnieper.

Ukraine
*Agrees to the above.
*Recognizes the so-called "breakaway republics" independence.
*Releases the so-called “Donbas” to the so-called “breakaway republics.”
*Is free to join NATO, EU, or any other international consortium without interference from Russia.

15 posted on 03/28/2022 1:13:17 PM PDT by BenLurkin ((The above is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion, or satire. Or both.))
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To: BenLurkin

No land bridge for Russia. The people in that area do not want to be Russian. It will be hostile territory for Russia forever.


22 posted on 03/28/2022 1:20:59 PM PDT by marcusmaximus
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To: BenLurkin

Ukraine never even started repairing the destruction caused by 8 years of their own military shelling the break away areas.


40 posted on 03/28/2022 1:34:04 PM PDT by HollyB
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To: BenLurkin

The globalists would sacrifice 1000 tines the population of Ukraine to remive putin and teplace him with a globalist like zelensky. Biden said it out loud because it is about regime change in Russia Russia Russia.
Then they can have the new world order biden talked about also. Soros and co are doing what they do. Russia and maybe China are the only holdouts to teue one world government.


56 posted on 03/28/2022 2:16:23 PM PDT by momincombatboots (Ephesians 6... who you are really at war with. )
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To: BenLurkin

So the basic trade would be that Russia gets a bigger chunk of the Ukraine — everything east of the Dnieper — and Ukraine gets to join NATO. In this scenario the eastern portion is big enough to be an effective buffer thus making a NATOized Ukraine acceptable to Russia. My first reaction is that that does not sound unreasonable.

That said, one problem I see with dividing along the Dneiper is that Kiev sits on the Dnieper, so Ukraine would end up with its capital sitting right on the border. To me that seems awkward. It makes me think the final deal will be that Russia keeps only the eastern breakaway republics and the Crimea, thus putting a comfortable margin around Kiev, and Ukraine agrees to no NATO membership.

I suspect the final negotiation will center on the nature and extent of the “security assurances” Ukraine will get from the West — i.e. whether it will be NATO membership in all but name or something more limited.


57 posted on 03/28/2022 2:17:23 PM PDT by Yardstick
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To: BenLurkin

That’s a hard no from both.


80 posted on 03/28/2022 3:33:07 PM PDT by Bulwyf
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To: BenLurkin

The last one is the deal breaker.


121 posted on 03/29/2022 2:01:41 PM PDT by dforest
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