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‘I Wouldn’t Mind if the West Gets Its Butt Kicked’: The Israelis Siding With Putin
Haaretz ^ | March 2, 2022 | Allison Kaplan Sommer

Posted on 03/05/2022 11:04:55 PM PST by Angelino97

Since Russia’s invasion of Ukraine began last week, most Israeli leaders across the political spectrum have either expressed full support for Ukrainians or cautiously supported a neutral approach for strategic reasons, fearful of harming the country’s interests in Russia-controlled Syria.

A minority on the right, however, has gone as far as to express a measure of sympathy and identification with Russian President Vladimir Putin’s justifications for Russia asserting a historic claim to Ukrainian territory.

“People in Russia suit Putin’s rule. Kyiv is Russia’s birthplace. Kyiv for Putin is like Bethlehem and Hebron,” said Maj. Gen. (ret.) Gershon Hacohen, a senior research associate at the Begin-Sadat Center for Strategic Studies, in a recent interview on Kan public television.

Hacohen questioned the assumption that Israel needed to stand with the “Free World” and be on the “right side of history.”

“Is the European Union on ‘the right side of history’ when it opposes me when it comes to Judea and Samaria [the West Bank], building for the Palestinians and pouring money into anti-Zionist NGOs?” he said. “I have to ask myself: what is the right side of history for me?”

While condemning the brutality of Putin’s invasion, some right-wing commentators – similar to their U.S. counterparts, most famously Fox News host Tucker Carlson – positively contrasted the Russian leader’s strength with what they see as the weakness of leaders in Western Europe and the United States, and their failure to offer a counterbalance to his aggression over the years.

Noam Fathi, a right-wing journalist and broadcaster, as well a fierce advocate of former Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu, tweeted that it was NATO and the West who were “standing on the ‘stupid side of history,’” since “it’s the NATO countries who repeatedly provoked Putin, blatantly violated agreements with him …

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To: Angelino97

The globalists are everywhere even Israel. I have heard Israel is being saved for last. Ukraine is being purged now, next up Taiwan, NK, Iran. Trump and the military will take them out of the US.


121 posted on 03/06/2022 6:52:43 AM PST by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped)
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To: x

Russia neighbors to the south might have reason to worry, but to the west? Not so much. The Ukraine brought this on themselves. All they had to do is promise not to join NATO. I wonder what we would think of Mexico or Canada forming a military alliance with communist China? With Chinese troops, tanks and missiles on our border?


122 posted on 03/06/2022 6:58:11 AM PST by jpsb
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To: Angelino97
Rather than being "Against USA", maybe, after hearing both sides, he no longer buys into the Soros/Biden/Media version.

123 posted on 03/06/2022 6:58:58 AM PST by BitWielder1 (I'd rather have Unequal Wealth than Equal Poverty.)
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To: blueplum

The reference is to the Kievian Rus of which Novgorod was the second largest city. Oleg of Novgorod conquored Kiev in the early 10th century, and became ruler of the Kievian Rus, consolidating it into a “state”, previously a looser domain, and is often considered the founder of the “state”, though the Rus predated it by around a century. Novgorod remained the second largest city. Lots of legend here. Of course these were Norse, not slavs. Rus which evolved to Russia generally translated as Swedish or northmen. As elsewhere the Norse population becoming absorbed. Both are reasonably termed “birthplace”, though culturally Russia is Slavic not Norse, thus both incorrect in a cultural sense.


124 posted on 03/06/2022 7:02:25 AM PST by SJackson (If I'm elected President ... we're going to cure cancer, Brandon, June 2019)
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To: dennisw; Cachelot; Nix 2; veronica; Catspaw; knighthawk; Alouette; Optimist; weikel; Lent; GregB; ..
Middle East and terrorism, occasional political and Jewish issues Ping List. High Volume If you’d like to be on or off, please FR mail me.

Needless to say what Ha'aertz describes as a minority demonstrates the ingratitude of Israel to the US.

125 posted on 03/06/2022 7:05:18 AM PST by SJackson (If I'm elected President ... we're going to cure cancer, Brandon, June 2019)
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To: Jonty30

There plenty of similar morons right here on FR wanting Putin to win.

Very strange.


126 posted on 03/06/2022 7:17:10 AM PST by Jewbacca (The residents of Iroquois territory may not determine whether Jews may live in Jerusalem.)
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To: Jonty30

Oh, stop.

This is not “Israel supporting Russia”.

This is a couple of loud idiots in Israel who support Russia.

There are plenty of idiots in FR who support Russia and say Israel’s support of Ukraine is evidence Israel wants a “new world order” and is a Soros puppet.

Heck, there’s a Texan from San Antonio fighting for Russia in the Ukraine. I guess Texas supports Putin.


127 posted on 03/06/2022 7:21:34 AM PST by Jewbacca (The residents of Iroquois territory may not determine whether Jews may live in Jerusalem.)
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To: Angelino97

Israel took real estate in self defense. Ukraine is not a threat to Russia.


128 posted on 03/06/2022 7:22:22 AM PST by Spok (Winston, how many fingers am I holding up?)
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To: Angelino97

Everyone has an a@@-hole, and everyone has an opinion. Usually they both stink. In this case, it’s as per usual.


129 posted on 03/06/2022 7:49:20 AM PST by Eleutheria5 (January 6, worst assault on democracy since the Reichstag Fire)
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To: Long Jon No Silver

This scripture: Zec 13:9 And I will bring the third part through the fire, and will refine them as silver is refined, and will try them as gold is tried: they shall call on my name, and I will hear them: I will say, It is my people: and they shall say, The LORD is my God.

Don’t know the day or the hours but sooner or later a lotta army’s will danged near destroy Israel. Hasn’t happened yet.


130 posted on 03/06/2022 7:54:11 AM PST by Karliner (Heb 4:12 Rom 8:28 Rev 3, "...This is the end of the beginning." Churchill)
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To: Angelino97

To be fair, they did take a lot of neurodegenerative vaccines in the last few years.


131 posted on 03/06/2022 7:55:29 AM PST by Yaelle
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To: DoughtyOne

A propos to mention them.The Russian attack may be Stalin when they go into a major city and the Ukrainians shower them with Molotov cocktails!


132 posted on 03/06/2022 7:59:10 AM PST by 17th Miss Regt
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To: blueplum
Kievan Rus is where the start of the Russian empire began and Kiev or Kyiv (Whatever sided letters you support) was the epicenter where Christianity spread with the Eastern European/Russian people under Vladimir the Great.

Novgorod is basically considered somewhat like St. Augustine, FL now, oldest, (Royalty came from there than spread to more vital cities) but the city rose to more prominence in the late 18th century in the administrative realm. However, Kiev/Kyiv has more meaning due to Vladimir the Great's (Who was the Prince of Novgorod) consolidation, where again, Kiev was the epicenter of the empire at that time/Moscow then Saint Petersburg came later of course.
133 posted on 03/06/2022 8:18:37 AM PST by rollo tomasi
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To: DoughtyOne

Russia doesn’t have bioweapon labs in Ukraine. The US does/did.

Putin being president is whatever. Queen Elizabeth has been queen since the 50s.

As for invading countries... how many did the US invade under 0bama?

George Bush Sr use to run the CIA

The left and big tech has effectively closed down almost all opposing views especially concerning covid jabs.

Threatening to unleash nukes is nothing new to those of us who were active during the cold war. Toughen up, buttercup.

Is he the good guy? I don’t know. But I know he’s against the NWO and the great reset... both if which zellenskyy has endorsed.


134 posted on 03/06/2022 8:20:45 AM PST by sten (fighting tyranny never goes out of style )
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To: Jonty30
If it weren’t for the US, Israel might not exist at all.

Israel's ability to count on the U.S., depends entirely on who is in office. Given the current administration, and the wokeness of our military; I'm pretty sure counting on the U.S. would be pretty reckless at this iuncture.

135 posted on 03/06/2022 8:40:28 AM PST by voicereason (The RNC is like the "one-night stand" you wish you could forget.)
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To: Angelino97

Now Russia Sets Its Sights On Israel, And Tells Them That They No Longer Recognize Jewish Sovereignty Over The Golan Heights In Northern Syria
Now The End Begins ^ | 2/24/22 | Geoffrey Grider

Posted on 2/24/2022, 9:32:28 PM by Roman_War_Criminal

The Israelis must not have read this!


136 posted on 03/06/2022 8:45:54 AM PST by Polyxene (Out of the depths I have cried to Thee, O Lord; Lord, hear my voice.)
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To: ifinnegan
How about gratitude? I can hardly imagine the Israeli people all feel this way.
137 posted on 03/06/2022 11:25:38 AM PST by jmacusa (America. Founded by geniuses. Now governed by idiots. )
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To: Angelino97

Yeah. There are idiots everywhere. I battle then on sites evryday.


138 posted on 03/06/2022 11:35:19 AM PST by ZULU (HOOVER, FREEH, MUELLER, COMEY, WRAY, SUCCESSION OF STATISTS)
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To: MarvinStinson

Hitler , Stalin, Mao , Pol Pot , Castro, the Kims ...
We let them all just do their thing.


139 posted on 03/06/2022 11:53:36 AM PST by LeoWindhorse
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To: jpsb

The U.S would strong arm them diplomstically. If that didn’t work they would invade them. And of course blather on with all the nonsense about morality etc


140 posted on 03/06/2022 12:41:33 PM PST by Long Jon No Silver
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