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‘I Wouldn’t Mind if the West Gets Its Butt Kicked’: The Israelis Siding With Putin
Haaretz ^ | March 2, 2022 | Allison Kaplan Sommer

Posted on 03/05/2022 11:04:55 PM PST by Angelino97

Since Russia’s invasion of Ukraine began last week, most Israeli leaders across the political spectrum have either expressed full support for Ukrainians or cautiously supported a neutral approach for strategic reasons, fearful of harming the country’s interests in Russia-controlled Syria.

A minority on the right, however, has gone as far as to express a measure of sympathy and identification with Russian President Vladimir Putin’s justifications for Russia asserting a historic claim to Ukrainian territory.

“People in Russia suit Putin’s rule. Kyiv is Russia’s birthplace. Kyiv for Putin is like Bethlehem and Hebron,” said Maj. Gen. (ret.) Gershon Hacohen, a senior research associate at the Begin-Sadat Center for Strategic Studies, in a recent interview on Kan public television.

Hacohen questioned the assumption that Israel needed to stand with the “Free World” and be on the “right side of history.”

“Is the European Union on ‘the right side of history’ when it opposes me when it comes to Judea and Samaria [the West Bank], building for the Palestinians and pouring money into anti-Zionist NGOs?” he said. “I have to ask myself: what is the right side of history for me?”

While condemning the brutality of Putin’s invasion, some right-wing commentators – similar to their U.S. counterparts, most famously Fox News host Tucker Carlson – positively contrasted the Russian leader’s strength with what they see as the weakness of leaders in Western Europe and the United States, and their failure to offer a counterbalance to his aggression over the years.

Noam Fathi, a right-wing journalist and broadcaster, as well a fierce advocate of former Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu, tweeted that it was NATO and the West who were “standing on the ‘stupid side of history,’” since “it’s the NATO countries who repeatedly provoked Putin, blatantly violated agreements with him …

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Strange bedfellows. Strange times.
1 posted on 03/05/2022 11:04:55 PM PST by Angelino97
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To: Angelino97

Idiots.
If it weren’t for the US, Israel might not exist at all.


2 posted on 03/05/2022 11:09:54 PM PST by Jonty30 (How can you claim to help me with my healthcare costs when you can't pay for your own?)
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To: Angelino97

That’s wierd, I thought Veliky Novgorod was the ‘birthplace of old russia’, and it’s nowhere near Ukraine:

https://www.visitnovgorod.com/novgorod/discover_novgorod/The_birthplace_of_Russia.html


3 posted on 03/05/2022 11:13:53 PM PST by blueplum ("...this moment is your moment: it belongs to you... " President Donald J. Trump, Jan 20, 2017) )
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To: Angelino97
Noam Fathi, a right-wing journalist and broadcaster, as
well a fierce advocate of former Prime Minister Benjamin
Netanyahu, tweeted that it was NATO and the West who were
“standing on the ‘stupid side of history,’” since “it’s the
NATO countries who repeatedly provoked Putin, blatantly
violated agreements with him.

Didn't Russia agree not to attack the Ukraine if it gave
up nuclear weapons?

4 posted on 03/05/2022 11:14:06 PM PST by DoughtyOne (I pledge allegiance to the flag of the U S of A, and to the REPUBLIC for which it stands.)
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To: DoughtyOne

The EU is the 4 Reich. Israel beware. The 1st Reich was the Holy Roman Empire. The E.U was initiated by the Treaty of Rome. Germany lost ww11 but gained Europe anyway. Russia still stands in their way. Buyers of ‘get involved in Ukraine’ take note. The EU will be the Roman Empire. Christ came the 1st time during the reign of a Roman Emperor. As a meek lamb. He will come again during the reign of the EU leader.This time around as a ferocious lion.


5 posted on 03/05/2022 11:23:59 PM PST by Long Jon No Silver
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To: blueplum

Ah, yes. Novgorod the Golden, as they called it.


6 posted on 03/05/2022 11:26:06 PM PST by 17th Miss Regt
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To: Long Jon No Silver
Thanks Long Jonns

I'd not heard that theory before.

7 posted on 03/05/2022 11:27:39 PM PST by DoughtyOne (I pledge allegiance to the flag of the U S of A, and to the REPUBLIC for which it stands.)
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To: Jonty30

“If it weren’t for the US, Israel might not exist at all.”

What does that have to do with this?


8 posted on 03/05/2022 11:28:32 PM PST by ifinnegan (Democrats kill babies and harvest their organs to sell)
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To: ifinnegan

How many trillions of dollars has the US paid out to protect Europe and Israel from their enemies?

Despite so much money to protect from becoming extinct, the first thing they do is wish the US dead.

If angers me the amount of disloyalty that Europe and Israel often display to the US.


9 posted on 03/05/2022 11:31:10 PM PST by Jonty30 (How can you claim to help me with my healthcare costs when you can't pay for your own?)
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To: DoughtyOne

Quite awhile back Stalin’s inner circle was trying to honor Vyacheslav Molotov for a service anniversary as the Soviet foreign minister. They got together a silver document holder and were going to give him pristine copies of the agreements and treaties he had negotiated as foreign minister in the document holder as the gift. But then someone pointed out that the USSR had broken all of the agreements. The idea went away.


10 posted on 03/05/2022 11:31:34 PM PST by 17th Miss Regt
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To: blueplum

True, that clown gets the basic facts wrong and I’m supposed to consider what he says seriously?


11 posted on 03/05/2022 11:31:47 PM PST by BiglyCommentary
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To: Long Jon No Silver
Revelation is allegory. It has nothing to do with Rome, or Germany, or Russia, or Iran, or the E.U., or the modern state of Israel.

Revelation is an allegory about a fallen, sinful world, with only a few holding fast to Christianity (i.e., the Church, which is the New Israel). Christians will suffer persecution, it will appear as if the unbelievers have won, then Christ will return.

12 posted on 03/05/2022 11:33:03 PM PST by Angelino97
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To: ifinnegan
”On the same day, prominent pro-Netanyahu journalist Shimon Riklin wrote that he “really wouldn’t mind if the West gets its butt kicked.” If that happened, he said, perhaps “the West’s fans here in Israel who cry with emotion when they talk about France, Germany, England [and] America will wake up from this fake admiration, turn their backs to the sea and start looking toward Jerusalem.”

What it has to do with this is — maybe this isn’t a very smart position for a guy who’s country has a quarter or more of its defense budget is subsidized by the US and Germany. He might want to remember that the US owns his country’s ass before he goes hoping that the US it’s ass kicked.

13 posted on 03/05/2022 11:34:35 PM PST by TheDandyMan
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To: Jonty30

“First thing they do is wish the US dead.”

Who wished the U.S. Dead?


14 posted on 03/05/2022 11:34:56 PM PST by ifinnegan (Democrats kill babies and harvest their organs to sell)
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To: ifinnegan

I consider somebody to be disloyal to the point of wishing you dead when they side with the enemy, despite massive efforts to protect them.

You’re welcome to see the act of Israel supporting Russia against the US as being loyal to the US, if you want.


15 posted on 03/05/2022 11:36:56 PM PST by Jonty30 (How can you claim to help me with my healthcare costs when you can't pay for your own?)
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To: Long Jon No Silver

It’s been suggested that the treaty of Rome marked a beginning of the eventual toes of iron and clay.

Time will tell.

Lots of changes, shocking changes, in the West as well. (Our West)


16 posted on 03/05/2022 11:38:08 PM PST by SaveFerris (The Lord, The Christ and The Messiah: Jesus Christ of Nazareth - http://www.BiblicalJesusChrist.Com/)
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To: TheDandyMan

what do you think of this:

“Is the European Union on ‘the right side of history’ when it opposes me when it comes to Judea and Samaria [the West Bank], building for the Palestinians and pouring money into anti-Zionist NGOs?” he said. “I have to ask myself: what is the right side of history for me?”

Doesn’t mention the U.S.


17 posted on 03/05/2022 11:38:12 PM PST by ifinnegan (Democrats kill babies and harvest their organs to sell)
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To: Jonty30
Why are you surprised by Europe's and Israel's ingratitude?

It's long been a tenet of conservatism that welfare breeds ingratitude. The recipient resents his dependency.

How many welfare recipients in the U.S. feel gratitude? All the people receiving free education, food stamps, free healh care, government arts grants and other entitlements? How filled with gratitude are they?

The Summer of Floyd answered that question.

18 posted on 03/05/2022 11:38:21 PM PST by Angelino97
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To: Jonty30

Who wished the US dead?


19 posted on 03/05/2022 11:38:54 PM PST by ifinnegan (Democrats kill babies and harvest their organs to sell)
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To: Angelino97

I’m well aware of Europe’s disdain towards the US. I wasn’t aware of Israel’s however.

A more inward policy is called for towards both entities.


20 posted on 03/05/2022 11:39:29 PM PST by Jonty30 (How can you claim to help me with my healthcare costs when you can't pay for your own?)
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