Posted on 02/24/2022 11:33:19 AM PST by Kaslin
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I just love it. I love my job. I love what I do, and this has been really hard. Sorry.”
The pediatric nurse, who had been working at Children’s Wisconsin for 12 years, choked back tears as she stressed her passion for treating sick children to the chaplain and human resources representative tasked with questioning whether her religious beliefs were sincere enough to earn her an exemption from the Milwaukee hospital’s vaccine mandate, which took effect in November.
This nurse, whose religious exemption appeal interview was shared with The Federalist on the condition of anonymity, was finally granted an exemption after first being denied, then appealing, then being grilled by the two hospital representatives about her religious convictions. Some of her colleagues weren’t so fortunate.
Of the five appeal interview recordings reviewed by The Federalist, only two of the employees were granted religious exemptions despite the same general questions being asked to each of the Children’s workers and similar themes in each of their answers. The other three were denied.
Staff was notified in July about the vaccine mandate, which required them to get the Covid-19 shot by mid-November. Employees had until Sept. 1 to request a religious exemption, according to a vaccine overview document that Children’s WI President and CEO Peggy Troy emailed to all hospital employees, and they were notified of the decisions later.
Some of the people who were denied began seeking new jobs, Alyssa Pollow, a nurse practitioner and former Children’s Wisconsin provider, told The Federalist. Others wanted to stay, however, and appealed, especially if they had any seniority.
To appeal a denial, employees had to email Employee Health and Wellness and Human Resources, which would set up Zoom interviews to grill applicants about their religious beliefs and point out apparent contradictions.
These interviews were conducted by chaplain Ian Butts and one person from HR, such as Sharyl Niebler or Staci Benz, but Butts conducted most of the interrogation. The questions included the specifics of the employees’ personal religious convictions and their vaccination record, with Butts pressing on what he considered to be contradictions.
Two particularly leading questions regarded the specifics of how the employees would keep their patients safe without being vaccinated, implying a moral implication of refusing a vaccine, as well as how they could square working for a hospital that mandated something so contrary to their personal convictions as a condition of employment.
“In my opinion, he’s so over the line with how he is asking these questions,” Pollow told The Federalist. “And for him to be their religious arbiter of whose religious beliefs are more virtuous than someone else is such a violation of privacy.”
“It just feels so invasive,” she added, even calling it an “assault on religion.”
Butts and the HR representative would then relay the information they collected to an overarching committee called the COVID Religious Waiver Committee, the members of which were kept hidden, shielding the exemption arbiters of any accountability.
The committee also offered no transparency regarding the reasons employees were denied exemptions. “Because Children’s must preserve the integrity of its waiver request review process, the specific reasons for denials are not shared,” the Employee Health and Wellness Covid-19 team wrote in response to an employee’s query about that person’s religious waiver denial.
Children’s Wisconsin did not answer The Federalist’s questions about who was on the waiver committee. It also would not say how many people applied for religious exemptions, how many of those were approved, and how the current number of vacancies compares to pre-pandemic levels.
“All staff members at Children’s Wisconsin currently comply with our vaccine requirements,” Children’s spokesman Andy Brodzeller replied to The Federalist’s inquiry. “More than 98 percent of our team members met our Nov. 15 deadline to be vaccinated or have an exemption approved. … We were sad to see the less than 100 people leave our organization when the requirement went into effect, but respect their decision to do so.”
The response from Children’s leaves many questions unanswered, however, such as how many people weren’t included in the denominator of that 98 percent because they resigned upon learning about the mandate, long before the Nov. 15 deadline, without even trying to acquire an exemption. And the language about the “100 people leav[ing]” implies a voluntary decision, so how many more were terminated? It’s eerily reminiscent of the public relations wordsmithing conducted by Gundersen Health Systems, another Wisconsin hospital system, to conceal its vaccine mandate staffing crisis.
[READ: In Wisconsin, Hospital Shortages Aren’t From Covid, They’re From Vaccine Mandates]
Judging by the disparity in outcomes for the five aforementioned employees who appealed despite the similarities in their responses, it appears Children’s doesn’t have a strong or consistent rationale for its waiver decisions.
Pollow said that when one manager was given a list of about a dozen staff she was going to lose, she demanded a meeting with decision-makers, where she “raised hell” about the need for all those staff members to remain on her team. The next week, Pollow said, the majority of those staff had their appeals approved, leading her to believe that the COVID Religious Waiver Committee was making its decisions in an effort to appease the managers in certain departments who were willing to stick out their necks for their employees. Or perhaps more likely, they were trying to “spread out their losses across the departments.”
That’s because we’ve seen the catastrophic effects of these vaccine mandates and other poor management and working conditions, which have left other hospitals severely understaffed.
Gundersen Health Systems in La Crosse, Wisconsin, has severely hemorrhaged staff as a result of the vaccine mandate, contrary to its deceptive self-reporting on the matter. Those terminations paired with workers quitting over low wages have led to underserved patients.
“Within the hospital, nursing shortages have led to unsafe staffing situations where nurses and CNAs are being forced to take more patients than what is safe due to there not being enough nursing staff present. Patients are being forgotten on bed pans or are falling because there is simply not enough staff to safely take care of them,” one former Gundersen nurse wrote in a community impact statement. Although she had been granted a religious exemption from that hospital, she was so disgusted by the letter’s language that she resigned anyway.
As a result of low-wage staff jumping ship, she said nurses had to use the bare minimum of linens, even going so far as to fashion makeshift pillowcases out of hospital gowns. One weekend in October, Gundersen had to shut down a dozen beds due to nursing shortages, she said, adding that it has also canceled heart valve replacement surgeries because it didn’t have enough post-op staff.
There are probably many nursing and other health care jobs that are going begging right now and for which the stupid vaccine mandate will be ignored/waived. I hope these nurses find better jobs at such places.
Covid kills plenty of people.. especially the old and sick, who are likely to be at the hospital.
God bless her.
This is a trend of evil that has to be opposed.
To make more money for the local restaurants and stores, the Dems are planning the end of mask requirements to be followed by vax proof if many Dem cities now. They now want the Dems to look good to cheerful, happy sheep to vote for them in Nov., 2022.
Earlier successful plan was to entangle and then strangle the Trump economic boom in Nov.2020 by depressed people in lockdowns, out of work and angry. It worked. Scum.
“Covid Teams” don’t do anything. People with names and addresses do.
I have family member who has same story for all intents and practices. Their employer’s anonymous committee to whom they submitted their life and religious views was called the “Compliance Committee” who determined that their faith did not “pass muster.” They have asked the same questions the Federalist asked...No answers.
They have a co-worker who had a letter from pastor AND letter from doctor who was denied as well.
Unbelievable what is happening to health care in this country...
Oh and vax shills, please respond—tell us how firing health care professionals and jabbing kids (with insufficient data) is a good thing...haven’t heard much from you all lately!
Actually, it doesn’t; the national protocols kill you. If you treat it early with IVM there is a very small chance of dying.
yup
I'm sure the good-will graduates of Urban Women Employment go in hoping to help, but do any of them realize there jobs are created for the benefit of the employer? HR departments exist as a legal buffer between the employer and fedgov/local laws and the unions in some cases.
How do I know beside commonsense? I was a Navy Counselor in my last years Navy and looked into Human Resources as a civilian occupation. No thanks.
If that's true, "people" are too dumb to even be meriting a paycheck.
I’m done and out of healthcare over this and the Supreme Court of imbeciles deciding I have no Constitutional rights because I’m a Medical Technologist.
Enjoy your diversity hires and much less staff with no experience in medical decisions , because that’s what your getting.
THe deaths due to hospital mistakes are skyrocketing. But that’s what all you Demonrats and Karen’s want. Enjoy your misery.
PS Every damn HR department in hospitals should be fired as the are absolutely useless.
It's true because HR makes a big deal about sexual harassment, women underpaid, racial complaints, and diversity. So the employee thinks HR is looking out for their good. In some cases they may be, but who is signing their checks?
Children’s Wis-scumsin CEO Peggy Troy got The Saline, with zero doubt.
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I wish the very worst for these people.
Hospitals are not private institutions.
They are government entities and run by government fiat.
Ping.
The vaxxed staff are likely spreading CoupFlu to the patients.
Thanks to Deep State we now have a de facto NHS.
And it sucks.
Thanks to Deep State we now have a de facto NHS.
And it sucks
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It has been like this for at least 20 years.
devolving into third world healthcare for a long time.
Bush’s Porkulus with its EMR regs really put the pedal to the metal.
It’s been downhill ever since.
“Hospitals are not private institutions.”
Many are technically (legally defined) as private sector even though they may be reliant on government money from medicare and medicaid reimbursements, research grants, relief from tax revenue due to non-profit status, and occasionally direct contributions of capital. In my city one hospital is the medical center and medical school of a private university. The physical plant is not “owned” by any government entity and the employees are not employees of state, local or federal government. The other hospital is owned by a not-for-profit organization. Again, the property is owned by the not-for-profit holding corporation. The employee are not state, federal or local government employees, they work for the not for profit private corporation.
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