Posted on 02/24/2022 11:33:19 AM PST by Kaslin
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I just love it. I love my job. I love what I do, and this has been really hard. Sorry.”
The pediatric nurse, who had been working at Children’s Wisconsin for 12 years, choked back tears as she stressed her passion for treating sick children to the chaplain and human resources representative tasked with questioning whether her religious beliefs were sincere enough to earn her an exemption from the Milwaukee hospital’s vaccine mandate, which took effect in November.
This nurse, whose religious exemption appeal interview was shared with The Federalist on the condition of anonymity, was finally granted an exemption after first being denied, then appealing, then being grilled by the two hospital representatives about her religious convictions. Some of her colleagues weren’t so fortunate.
Of the five appeal interview recordings reviewed by The Federalist, only two of the employees were granted religious exemptions despite the same general questions being asked to each of the Children’s workers and similar themes in each of their answers. The other three were denied.
Staff was notified in July about the vaccine mandate, which required them to get the Covid-19 shot by mid-November. Employees had until Sept. 1 to request a religious exemption, according to a vaccine overview document that Children’s WI President and CEO Peggy Troy emailed to all hospital employees, and they were notified of the decisions later.
Some of the people who were denied began seeking new jobs, Alyssa Pollow, a nurse practitioner and former Children’s Wisconsin provider, told The Federalist. Others wanted to stay, however, and appealed, especially if they had any seniority.
To appeal a denial, employees had to email Employee Health and Wellness and Human Resources, which would set up Zoom interviews to grill applicants about their religious beliefs and point out apparent contradictions.
These interviews were conducted by chaplain Ian Butts and one person from HR, such as Sharyl Niebler or Staci Benz, but Butts conducted most of the interrogation. The questions included the specifics of the employees’ personal religious convictions and their vaccination record, with Butts pressing on what he considered to be contradictions.
Two particularly leading questions regarded the specifics of how the employees would keep their patients safe without being vaccinated, implying a moral implication of refusing a vaccine, as well as how they could square working for a hospital that mandated something so contrary to their personal convictions as a condition of employment.
“In my opinion, he’s so over the line with how he is asking these questions,” Pollow told The Federalist. “And for him to be their religious arbiter of whose religious beliefs are more virtuous than someone else is such a violation of privacy.”
“It just feels so invasive,” she added, even calling it an “assault on religion.”
Butts and the HR representative would then relay the information they collected to an overarching committee called the COVID Religious Waiver Committee, the members of which were kept hidden, shielding the exemption arbiters of any accountability.
The committee also offered no transparency regarding the reasons employees were denied exemptions. “Because Children’s must preserve the integrity of its waiver request review process, the specific reasons for denials are not shared,” the Employee Health and Wellness Covid-19 team wrote in response to an employee’s query about that person’s religious waiver denial.
Children’s Wisconsin did not answer The Federalist’s questions about who was on the waiver committee. It also would not say how many people applied for religious exemptions, how many of those were approved, and how the current number of vacancies compares to pre-pandemic levels.
“All staff members at Children’s Wisconsin currently comply with our vaccine requirements,” Children’s spokesman Andy Brodzeller replied to The Federalist’s inquiry. “More than 98 percent of our team members met our Nov. 15 deadline to be vaccinated or have an exemption approved. … We were sad to see the less than 100 people leave our organization when the requirement went into effect, but respect their decision to do so.”
The response from Children’s leaves many questions unanswered, however, such as how many people weren’t included in the denominator of that 98 percent because they resigned upon learning about the mandate, long before the Nov. 15 deadline, without even trying to acquire an exemption. And the language about the “100 people leav[ing]” implies a voluntary decision, so how many more were terminated? It’s eerily reminiscent of the public relations wordsmithing conducted by Gundersen Health Systems, another Wisconsin hospital system, to conceal its vaccine mandate staffing crisis.
[READ: In Wisconsin, Hospital Shortages Aren’t From Covid, They’re From Vaccine Mandates]
Judging by the disparity in outcomes for the five aforementioned employees who appealed despite the similarities in their responses, it appears Children’s doesn’t have a strong or consistent rationale for its waiver decisions.
Pollow said that when one manager was given a list of about a dozen staff she was going to lose, she demanded a meeting with decision-makers, where she “raised hell” about the need for all those staff members to remain on her team. The next week, Pollow said, the majority of those staff had their appeals approved, leading her to believe that the COVID Religious Waiver Committee was making its decisions in an effort to appease the managers in certain departments who were willing to stick out their necks for their employees. Or perhaps more likely, they were trying to “spread out their losses across the departments.”
That’s because we’ve seen the catastrophic effects of these vaccine mandates and other poor management and working conditions, which have left other hospitals severely understaffed.
Gundersen Health Systems in La Crosse, Wisconsin, has severely hemorrhaged staff as a result of the vaccine mandate, contrary to its deceptive self-reporting on the matter. Those terminations paired with workers quitting over low wages have led to underserved patients.
“Within the hospital, nursing shortages have led to unsafe staffing situations where nurses and CNAs are being forced to take more patients than what is safe due to there not being enough nursing staff present. Patients are being forgotten on bed pans or are falling because there is simply not enough staff to safely take care of them,” one former Gundersen nurse wrote in a community impact statement. Although she had been granted a religious exemption from that hospital, she was so disgusted by the letter’s language that she resigned anyway.
As a result of low-wage staff jumping ship, she said nurses had to use the bare minimum of linens, even going so far as to fashion makeshift pillowcases out of hospital gowns. One weekend in October, Gundersen had to shut down a dozen beds due to nursing shortages, she said, adding that it has also canceled heart valve replacement surgeries because it didn’t have enough post-op staff.
Hospitals killing patients because of their ASNINE policies which shorts up their nursing staff! I hope lawsuits will abound over these firings!
There are plenty of states she will be welcomed in if she chooses to leave Wisconsistan.
My wife, a nurse, had to find a new job because of this very issue of religious waivers and covid.
It is real, take the shot or lose your job, fortunately she found one, pays a little less but overall a much better QPL. So we are praising our Lord!
QOL
Human Resources Representative = Satan.
If as a pro-choicer you told pro-lifers for decades that the only reason they want to save beating hearts is because of religion, and to "quit trying to force your religion onto the rest of us", but when a "vaccine" is made from aborted babies and it's not really a "religious" issue if someone doesn't want to take it .... you might be a Democrat.
“questioning whether her religious beliefs were sincere enough”
never ever work for such a company, regardless of its mission. If they can’t treat you with the decency and respect you deserve then they do not deserve your labor.
There are children’s hospitals all over the country. Find another one since this one has clearly let you down.
“Oh but the children...!” can blame the hospital administration as they lay dying. Its not your fault that the hospital administration is so morally corrupt. You are willing to help them but the hospital administration has basically sold their souls for money.
It’s very scary as a patient to know that these hospitals, large and small, are hemhorraging staff for stupid reasons. Who is a hospital chaplain to decide that someone “has enough faith”? Talk about hypocritical.
I bet I could get a hospital to pay for the rest of my schooling if they’re so desperate for nurses.
HR is code for Heil Hitler
I learned me codebreaking skills from the Antifa school of non-binary, and non-cisgendered studies for Right Wing oppressive speech.
LAWSUIT!
Even a pagan judge could see the issue here.
If your religious objection is because you got a revelation from the great spaghetti monster, then no one has a right to question whether or not your belief is sincere. If you are willing to get fired for that belief, then obviously it is sincere.
The law does explicitly state such aa assessment is not allowed, the business is required to accept the belief is real unless they have objective evidence to the contrary. That is literally how the law is written. But our courts are all corrupted now. The written law means nothing.
Note to SCOTUS - your decision on the JimJonesJab with respect to healthcare workers is as ridiculous as the articles on Babylon Bee. (Of course, BB is satire promoted as such)
Despicable is one word that comes to mind.
Disgusting is another.
“Butts and the HR representative would then relay the information they collected to an overarching committee called the COVID Religious Waiver Committee, the members of which were kept hidden, shielding the exemption arbiters of any accountability.”
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I’ve worked with attorneys who became script writers here in Hollywood. This is not entirely true, depending on the state. If the law firm you hired has excellent detectives, you can make breakthroughs. Mostly these are large-scale law firms who are aggressive in multi-million dollar cases. You can investigate anyone if you have the resources.
“It’s very scary as a patient to know that these hospitals, large and small, are hemhorraging staff for stupid reasons.”
It is very scary as a citizen to see my elected representatives fail to take action to stop the federal government from using its economic and regulatory to bully private institutions into forcing an experimental vaccine on individuals as a condition of employment. Other than Rand Paul and a handful of others I see the representatives of the people falling in line and marching willingly to the drumbeat of tyranny.
All this for a vax that does not work on a disease that does not kill.
Children’s Wis-scumsin CEO Peggy Troy got The Saline, with zero doubt.
Many corporate hospital administrators are absolute penny-shaving scum.
The dollars saved by ripping off the employees end up in the compensation packages of the corporate hospital scum.
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