Posted on 01/24/2022 8:04:06 AM PST by SeekAndFind
As most know, there’s a contentious debate over whether it’s fair to let men who claim they’re female compete in women’s sports. It’s a debate driven more by emotion than reason, as so many things are.
If a fellow claiming female status trounces woman athletes in a fairly high profile competition — as University of Pennsylvania swimmer “Lia” Thomas (birth name “Will”) did recently — the story makes headlines and raises ire; if such a man falters, as Thomas did quite suspiciously and conveniently even more recently, the story disappears. And each side in the debate often claims vindication based on the most recent result. Yet there is a way to definitively and irrefutably (within the realm of reason) prove that one side is correct.
Will Lia Thomas
Sports governing bodies will generally say that a man claiming a Made-up Sexual Status (MUSS or, to use the misnomer, “transgender identity”) may compete with women if he reduces his testosterone levels to the normal female range and maintains this hormonal profile for a certain period of time, perhaps a year, prior to competition. This standard is based on the presupposition that current and recent levels of testosterone — the main male sex hormone and a “naturally occurring steroid” (performance enhancing substance) — constitute the only factor determining whether a man enjoys an athletic advantage.
Now, the number of MUSS men competing in women’s sports is perhaps too small to provide a scientifically meaningful set of data with which to test this hypothesis. Yet it still can be tested because there actually is a trove of data on the relative athletic performances of males and females with identical hormonal profiles. These people are called children.
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Examining 10-and-under national records in the aforementioned Thomas’s sport, swimming, reveals that in every case but one, the boys’ individual times are faster. Admittedly, the gap is generally quite narrow at such ages — especially in swimming, which may have the smallest intersex performance disparity of any “physical” sport (e.g., not auto racing or target shooting). But it’s consistently there.
Some may point out here that the average age at which boys enter puberty is now 10 (yes, really; the age has been dropping) and that this may confuse the matter a bit. Yet reviewing eight-and-under swimming records, in this case from the Southern Arizona Aquatic Association, reveals a similar picture: The boys’ individual records are faster in every instance.
You can’t prove doddly because “transwomen “ do not exists. There are males and females. Anything else is a freak.
That’s like saying you can prove water is wet.
There is no need to prove anything.
Man ARE stronger than women. Even if the men put on women’s dresses and call themselves “trans”.
Looking at records may be an OK way to look at this but you are looking way out at the tail of the normal distribution of swimmers times. Things get murky out there in terms of data analysis.
I have often thought that a better way to look at this is to look at mixed doubles tennis. (Which I don’t really know much about.)
What percentage of the time when a male is serving to a female does he serve an ace? And visa versa for women serving. And do the same analysis for male to male and female to female serves.
What percentage of the time does a female return a male serve inbounds? And all the visa versas.
Analysis of vollies sets a little murky too because I am sure there is a preference to hitting to the female competitor.
Anyway that is what I think. I do not watch tennis and do not intend to do so. But this might be a good college Masters thesis if they want to get an “F”. ;o)
It’s obvious to prove that men have an advantage over women in sports. Why not prove the hideous, ungodliness, amoral and communist reasons for making once normal children into the mentally defective tools used to destroy America. Thomas needs to be put into a mental institution and deprogrammed. Ridicule the shit out these degenerates so it is obvious to everyone that it is not a choice to change ones gender and they will be doomed to a life of misery if they do. There are sometimes when bullying works and is needed at the youngest of ages.
Looking at records may be an OK way to look at this but you are looking way out at the tail of the normal distribution of swimmers' times.
Agree. I clicked in to post the same.
Where is the transgender football player that can stop Mahomes or Allen? Women are not the same as men..I dont care how many parts you cut off or drugs you take.
A transgender might be able to stop Jalen Hurts
“I Can PROVE ‘Transwomen’ Have an Advantage Over Real Women in Sports”
Especially in pole vaulting.
RE: Especially in pole vaulting.
The Trans lose when it comes to Pole Dancing :)
That may be fine for a girly-boys, but an athlete works out to train specific muscles to support the bigger skeleton.
This is the worse crap since the Nature vs Nurture debate back in the 70's that claimed no inherent difference between girls and boys.
That was put to rest by a very definitive study: Boy and girl toddlers were separated from their Mothers by a short (2 feet?) net fence. The boys would consistently try to climb over to Mom, while the girls would sit and cry. They were too young to be influenced by hormones, so the conclusion was brain chemistry. Bottom line XX vs XY.
Prove?
It’s like when you read about a government “study” that costs a gazillion dollars to confirm that we need oxygen to breathe.
The obvious proof is that we’ve always separated men & women in sports FOR A REASON - men win if we don’t. If you’re a “trans-woman” you’re really a dude, I don’t care if you’ve taken drugs for a year, you haven’t transformed your DNA, bone density, and muscle mass to that of a woman. If you’re “trans-man” whom has taken testosterone you’d normally be considered “doping” and not be qualified to compete against other women. Either way, if you’re “trans-anything” you should have to either compete with men or other “trans” people.
Leave the real-women alone. If a “trans-woman” is a “real woman” then why the prefix? By definition it notates that you’re something other than a “normal woman”. If you’re a “real woman” why has there been ZERO babies birthed by them? Why will the number always be ZERO? Because of OVARIES and TESTICLES! ...whether they work or not is irrelevant.
I see this whole topic as nothing more than attention grabbing juveniles what want to snub the norms - it’s just to the extreme. It’s to destroy the birth rate and, if they could, criminalize Judeo-Christian morals...to marginalize at the very least. It’s all perversion and evil. The number of kids believing they’re “trans” is skyrocketing.
There is no such thing as “trans woman”.
Psychopathic transvestite perverts? Yes, such men exist.
It is unfortunate that the amount of testosterone is what is being used as the marker for sexual identity. Maybe you might look at other factors that are more pertinent in what the hormone does.
Testosterone is a sex hormone that plays important roles in the body. Prior to puberty, there is no sex difference in circulating testosterone concentrations or athletic performance, but from puberty onward a clear sex difference in athletic performance emerges as circulating testosterone concentrations rise in men because testes produce 30 times more testosterone than before puberty with circulating testosterone exceeding 15-fold that of women at any age. There is a wide sex difference in circulating testosterone concentrations and a reproducible dose-response relationship between circulating testosterone and muscle mass and strength as well as circulating hemoglobin in both men and women.
And since these are athletes past puberty, the losing of the problem involved, muscle mass, is not going to be easy to complete the change in the competitive category. To lose muscle, you have to create a lack of performance. When your muscles get tire, the lactic acid is secreted and it burns fat to protect the muscle. So muscle doesn’t just disappear by itself until starting weeks after you stop exercise.
Athletes can start to lose their muscle strength in about three weeks if they’re not working out, according to a 2013Trusted Source study. Athletes typically lose less overall muscle strength during a break than nonathletes.
After taking a break from exercise, athletes are able to return to their former fitness levels more quickly than nonathletes, according to a 2010 study.
Athletes can regain their former muscle strength more quickly because of muscle memory. A recent study suggests this occurs at the genetic level, not the hormonic.
The researchers found that muscle growth is “remembered” by genes in the affected muscles. When you start training those muscles again, even after a long break, the genes respond more quickly than genes in previously unused muscles.
So how strong are these “new female competitors” and how long would they have to lay off exercise to get to the competitive strength of women athletes? And how long would it take the muscles to remember who they are and rebuild during training?
These are questions people don’t want to consider. This is why they keep it at testosterone levels and lie about the results...the winners.
wy69
‘Ridicule the shit out these degenerates...’
which is exactly what would have happened to any guy in my high school that went out and played for a girls team of any sort; actually, ridicule would be the least of the ignominies he could expect, and in all honesty I think he would have been remanded to custody and forced to undergo psychiatric analysis, with the full approval of all concerned...
I went to high school in the years 1963-1967, for the sake of clarity...
Given that trans women as just men in women’s clothing, of course they have an advantage when competing with women.
Question to ask: What is a woman?
Have often wondered what “Lia’s” motivation was in pursuing competitive swimming as a female. From pictures I have seen, “Lia” likely still has male parts and has not gone for breast enhancement. Does he/she really want to transition to a female or is this a sham to become a world record holder, a goal that eluded him/her competing as a male? Does he/she live and dress like a female and have a sexual attraction to guys? Does he/she share a locker room with females… kind of strange if he/she still has male parts? “Lia” also looks ridiculous in a female swimsuit.
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