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Trump v. DeSantis: Advantage, DeSantis
Townhall.com ^ | January 19, 2022 | Kurt Schlichter

Posted on 01/19/2022 3:02:21 AM PST by Kaslin

Things keep changing. A few months ago I thought Trump would not run. Then I thought he would run. Now, I don’t think so once again. And one of the tells is the subtle shot he took at DeSantis over vaccines. The fact is that Trump, if he runs, is not a shoo-in. And this could be an epic battle for the chance to beat Kamala Harris like a drum in 2024. And, at least according to people like you who took my most recent Twitter poll, Trump is not a shoo-in. He’s dropped to just one-third support from nearly half six months ago. If he wants to win Round Two, he’ll have to fight for it.

But my gut is again telling me that 75-year-old Donald Trump will not run in 2024. Perhaps if the election was next week, but with it three years off, that's a lot of time and he’s aging out. Does he want to follow President Crusty’s lead and decline on camera over the next seven years (three campaigning, four in office)? Is anyone more sensitive to such things than Trump? Maybe not.

But he still likes being the big dog, and he resents those coming along behind him who neglect to recognize. The purported shot at DeSantis over jabs last week seems significant. Trump is super proud of his vaccines, which is definitely not where the base is at right now. Does he know that? He’s off in his own world and TV does not reflect the depth of the anti-COVID dissension. He did a rally in Arizona and that’s nice, but the more he defends his COVID record – which includes not firing that malignant dwarf Fauci – the less the base is going to dig his rap.

No one hates Trump in the GOP. Everyone still here is grateful to him for what he did. But this is not about gratitude. It is about what he did for us lately. Is it possible that the support for Trump ’24 is a mile wide and an inch deep? That people have not yet really thought it through? I can tell you that among a lot of the hardcore name conservatives – whose conservative credentials are beyond question – there are a lot of people ready to say, “Thanks, here’s a gold watch.”

A lot.

I did another Twitter poll on Trump v. DeSantis, which is unscientific yet still more scientific than the people telling you to wear a face thing and take a vaccine that doesn’t work as advertised. My previous one in June had Trump 45.7%, DeSantis 50.1% and others 4.1%. This week’s poll was Trump 33.4%, DeSantis 59.7% and others 6.9%.

That’s a big drop for Trump among my hardcore audience. Two-thirds now are looking elsewhere.

Ron DeSantis is the candidate du jour. Now, he is totally focused, as he must be, both on his sick wife and on winning the 2022 governor’s race. If either of those do not work out well, he can’t run. Further, he gains nothing picking a fight with Trump now. But if Trump does run, he will have to, because 2024 is the DeSantis year. In 2028, he will be an ex-governor and who knows what the issues look like or what the Dem bench looks like then?

What if they fight? What if King Kong takes on Godzilla?

Does DeSantis hit Trump on COVID mistakes? Trump would double-down, because he is Trump, but the base is clearly in the DeSantis corner on that issue. DeSantis would run on the fact that he has the same lib fighter vibe as the Bad Orange Man but that he actually governs, where Trump was (and would be again) tied up with all sorts of investigations, impeachments and, yes, mean tweets.

While Trump has the gravitas of an ex-president, that he would be pulled down to the same platform as all the contenders (DeSantis would not be the only one) and this would make him look smaller. He would hate that. In contrast, as kingmaker, he will tower over the race – this would support him not running. But in a real primary, Trump’s current popularity can only shrink as people look at other candidates and some of them slip away.

For many of us, the question is not one of personalities. Politicians are fungible. Yes, Trump got shafted – I saw that lawyering after the election. But this is not about Trump, nor about gratitude. It’s about winning. Here’s my candidate, and I think the candidate of many others: The Based Guy Who Is Most Likely to Win.

It could be Trump again. Or it could be DeSantis. Or it could be someone else, though at this point they are all footnotes.

The key contest now is Trump v. DeSantis. But, for this bout to happen, DeSantis has to get past his two challenges and decide he will do it. Then Trump has to decide what he will do. None of that is remotely ascertainable today. But if that fight comes, it will be epic.


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1 posted on 01/19/2022 3:02:21 AM PST by Kaslin
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To: Kaslin

Trump will have my vote. Period.


2 posted on 01/19/2022 3:04:03 AM PST by WWG1WWA (Beware the fury of a patient man. - John Dryden )
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Thanks Kurt Schlichter & Clownhall! Keep churning the muck.


3 posted on 01/19/2022 3:07:21 AM PST by JonPreston (Q: Never have so many, been so wrong, so often)
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To: WWG1WWA

Mine as well...because I like how he works and the speed he gets things done.


4 posted on 01/19/2022 3:07:43 AM PST by caww ( )
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To: Kaslin

Deep State ginning up yet another game of lets-you-and-him-fight.

Don’t play.


5 posted on 01/19/2022 3:08:40 AM PST by mewzilla (Those aren't masks. They're muzzles. )
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To: Kaslin

If Trump runs Trump wins.


6 posted on 01/19/2022 3:09:22 AM PST by McGavin999 (To shut down the border tell the administration the cartel is smuggling Ivermectin )
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To: Kaslin

I love them both.


7 posted on 01/19/2022 3:12:03 AM PST by Baldwin77 (Democrats CANNOT win without violence and/or cheating)
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To: Kaslin

If Trump does run he will be crucified over his failed vaccine and its side effects by democrat and Republican alike. I’m not a Trump man or DeSantis or Paul man. I’m a MAGA man and will vote the man most likely to successfully implement MAGA. Trump had his chance and blew it. I’d vote DeSantis today but would reconsider if Rand Paul got into the race. Imagine the media, big tech and dems training all guns on the shortcomings of the vaccine and how the vaxx sabotaged Biden’s Covid efforts. Once the narrative flips, you’ll get Trump and his “deadly” vaxx 24/7.


8 posted on 01/19/2022 3:14:47 AM PST by hardspunned (former GOP globalist stooge)
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To: Kaslin

Our side is the stupid side.

I support Trump.
I guess I’d be happy to support DeSantis as well, but I see no reason to choose one over the other at the moment. Fighting is stupid.

I don’t care in the least what this one may have said or what that one may have said. I care about what they do. The media twists words, and individuals sometimes express themselves in regrettable ways. I do not care. At all. Say whatever you like. Let me know your policies and I’ll decide if I’ll vote for you. I know I support Trump’s policies.


9 posted on 01/19/2022 3:15:15 AM PST by ClearCase_guy (The experts are liars. The conspiracy theorists are the people who have figured out the Truth.)
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To: Joe Brower

10 posted on 01/19/2022 3:16:06 AM PST by Travis McGee (EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: Kaslin

NOT THIS CRAP YET AGAIN!


11 posted on 01/19/2022 3:21:44 AM PST by House Atreides
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To: Kaslin

This message paid for by Mitch McConnell.


12 posted on 01/19/2022 3:22:08 AM PST by Nextrush (FREEDOM IS EVERYBODY'S BUSINESS REMEMBER PASTOR NIEMOLLER)
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To: hardspunned

How did he “blow it”?

Opus?


13 posted on 01/19/2022 3:24:29 AM PST by Olog-hai ("No Republican, no matter how liberal, is going to woo a Democratic vote." -- Ronald Reagan, 1960)
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To: JonPreston

Kurt who?

Another idiot...


14 posted on 01/19/2022 3:27:24 AM PST by nikos1121
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To: Kaslin
I respect both.I can absolutely understand why Trump would run in ‘24. I can just as easily understand why he wouldn't....age and health being at the top of the list of reasons. If he does run I'd say that DeSantis would be a great pick for VP.
15 posted on 01/19/2022 3:30:18 AM PST by Gay State Conservative (Covid Is All About Mail In Balloting)
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No one hates Trump in the GOP. …
I was trying to pick out the most egregious lie in this screed, as many of them as there are. I settled on this one.
16 posted on 01/19/2022 3:33:53 AM PST by Olog-hai ("No Republican, no matter how liberal, is going to woo a Democratic vote." -- Ronald Reagan, 1960)
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To: nikos1121

You’d be safe choosing the opposite from Kurt Schlichter & Conservative, Inc.


17 posted on 01/19/2022 3:34:27 AM PST by JonPreston (Q: Never have so many, been so wrong, so often)
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To: ClearCase_guy

I agree completely.

Because you are correct. And that’s pretty “Clear.”


18 posted on 01/19/2022 3:36:31 AM PST by Maris Crane
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To: Kaslin
I'll vote for DeSantis if he's the 2024 nominee but I will have absolutely no enthusiasm for him. My rationale is simple:

1. The last thing we need in the White House is an Ivy League lawyer turned career politician.

2. See #1. DeSantis is about as "Establishment" as it gets in politics.

3. See #1 and #2. I think DeSantis would be about 100 times better than Mitt Romney and 1,000 times better than John McCain. If he's elected I give it 18 months before his staunchest supporters here on FR right now start calling him "George W. DeSantis."

4. Schlichter is out to lunch on this, and I believe his globalist/military colors are really showing here.

19 posted on 01/19/2022 3:37:18 AM PST by Alberta's Child ("All lies and jest; still, a man hears what he wants to hear and disregards the rest.")
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To: Kaslin

Trump is radioactive in many ways and much to do with these vaccines and the eventual outcome of these present and future long term side effects.


20 posted on 01/19/2022 3:37:36 AM PST by dpetty121263
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