Posted on 12/15/2021 2:01:47 PM PST by MplsSteve
Meteorologists are monitoring as a system with the potential for damaging winds and severe thunderstorms is moving into the region Wednesday.
The National Weather Service (NWS) has issued multiple advisories for the region, adding Wednesday's forecast hasn't been seen before in mid-December and is unprecedented.
A Tornado Watch was issued for part of the KSTP viewing area shortly before 1:30 p.m. Wednesday.
Storms and high winds are expected to move in around 5 p.m.
Tornado Watch now through 8 PM across southern/south-central MN & Iowa. A few tornadoes are still possible across SE MN and the metro as well as west-central WI this eve., mainly past 6 PM & before 9 PM. Have a severe weather plan ready. Storms will develop & track rapidly.
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When's the last time you remember parts of Minnesota and Iowa under a tornado watch IN DECEMBER?
I'm in the Twin Cities area (southern third-ring suburb) and I've heard multiple stories as to when it's gonna hit and where. Some are saying the worst will be in southern Minnesota and northern Iowa. Others are saying it'll hit the Twin Cities by 5PM. others are saying 8PM.
Stay tuned...
Winter, But they have a bad memory...
Red zone is the hot zone.
Daughter in Iowa said it was 30 degrees yesterday, and today it’s 70 degrees. And that there is a tornado watch today. Weird weather for December.
Search “Ryan Hall y’all” on YouTube. Live-streaming the event.
Time Location County State Lat Lon Comments 1956 3 W GLENVIL ADAMS NE 4050 9831 EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT REPORTED TORNADO WITHIN LINE ... NO OTHER DETAILS AT THIS TIME. (GID) 2014 1 S EDGAR CLAY NE 4035 9797 TORNADO ON THE GROUND 1S OF EDGAR PER EM. (GID) 2104 COLUMBUS PLATTE NE 4144 9736 EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT REPORTS ROOF OFF HOUSE AFTER BRIEF TORNADO SPIN-UP. (OAX) 2113 2 SE HUMPHREY PLATTE NE 4167 9746 TORNADO ON THE GROUND. (OAX) 2140 BEEMER CUMING NE 4193 9681 CONFIRMED TORNADO BY FIRE DEPARTMENT. (OAX)
One corner of Nebraska had 25 degrees, the other was 73.
Might be worse farther south in Iowa. Tornado watches in December aren’t unknown, but this level likelihood is very rare. At least it should pass in a few hours.
They really have few early records
Is there anything left there to destroy ???
Minneapolis-St Paul is just outside the red zone.
We’re in the orange Enhanced area.
Little off topic but, say these early winter storms are associated with climate change, global warming / cooling (whichever), what could anyone actually do about it? How would reducing carbon output in the US actually help, would it make a difference? Just curious, asking for my dog, she’s a good girl but can’t read. 🙃
In before global warming/climate change is blamed again for these soon-to-be disasters!!!!
On the bright side all the crops have been harvested.
All valid points. Cutting carbon emissions would do nothing.
There may well be global warming happening now - but there’s no proof that human activity has had anything to do with it.
“say these early winter storms are associated with climate change, global warming / cooling”
Which one is more powerful - man or nature?
“How would reducing carbon output in the US actually help, would it make a difference?”
Depends on if you see man as a cancer on the Earth or not. Since pre-Cambrian times Earth is now at a record low level of CO2. Right now it’s at about 450ppm. At 150ppm or lower all life goes extinct. It has gotten below 260ppm some 7,000 years ago and two thousand years before that global warming had peaked. Yes, the Earth has cooled as the Earth’s CO2 has gone up. Warming leads CO2 buildup by about 300 to 800 years.
“...what could anyone actually do about it?”
To stop the Earth’s climate from changing? Nothing. Can man change the Earth’s orbit? Nope. Can man change the number of sunspots on the Sun which affects the amount of clouds that are created on Earth? Nope. Can we change the output of the Sun? Nope.
The only thing we can do is adapt to the changes.
The Earth has been in an ice age for the past two million years. It has inter-glacials, like we have now, that last for about 11,500 years on average, and then goes back into the deep freeze for another 90,000 to 110,000 years. We see this cycle happening in the ice core samples from Antarctica and Greenland going back some 800,000 years.
This from the NWS this morning:
Severe WX Briefing – NWS 211215 @ 1030
NWS Des Moines – National Storm Prediction Center (Norman OK)
“Extremely Rare and Historic Event Likely!”
Likely damage to trees, power lines… power outages likely….
Travel – likely incidents with trucks / busses – tip-overs
Line of fast-moving thunderstorms… threat of tornadoes has increased… strong tornadoes possible
Any fires that would start from electrical system failures would be difficult to control in these winds….
Blowing dust and debris likely !!!
30-40 mph winds from 11 am to noon…. Increasing intensity to max after ~ 4 pm
High wind warning goes into effect at 12 noon…. Ramp-up time 3-4 hours
Convective risk for severe thunderstorms increases during the afternoon…
Post-convective wind peaks may be as strong as 70 to 100 mph… time gap after storm passes to strongest sustained winds
Movement extremely fast from 4-9 pm
Uncharted territory…. VERY rare…. fast moving storms… timing could be trigger at sunset when you can’t see much… take warning seriously when issued…
Peak of thunderstorm winds will arrive after thunderstorms pass…,,. non-convective post-thunderstorm winds may peak an hour or more post thunderstorms….
If widespread power loss…. for recovery considerations, realize that temps will fall into the 30s after the system passes…
Not planning another briefing unless something changes….
Wind chart is the NON-THUNDERSTORM winds w/maximum sustained gust… not reflective of potential straight-line gusts post-convection….
Would not want to be on the roads with 60-70+ mph winds…. stay off the road unless absolutely necessary….
Rainfall…. with speed of storms, not expecting flooding…. system moving too fast… wind is primary concern….
Wind should be diminishing tomorrow morning ref school busing… should be OK tomorrow….
The US has tornadoes every month of the year. The number is at it’s lowest in the winter and peaks out in May. It does this once a year, every year since before recorded history.
More than dozen active tornado warnings in western Iowa
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