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'Unprecedented' December weather expected Wednesday, Tornado Watch issued (in Minnesota)
KSTP-TV (ABC Affiliate in Minneapolis-St Paul) ^ | 12/15/21 | Rebecca Omastiak - Staff Reporter

Posted on 12/15/2021 2:01:47 PM PST by MplsSteve

Meteorologists are monitoring as a system with the potential for damaging winds and severe thunderstorms is moving into the region Wednesday.

The National Weather Service (NWS) has issued multiple advisories for the region, adding Wednesday's forecast hasn't been seen before in mid-December and is unprecedented.

A Tornado Watch was issued for part of the KSTP viewing area shortly before 1:30 p.m. Wednesday.

Storms and high winds are expected to move in around 5 p.m.

Tornado Watch now through 8 PM across southern/south-central MN & Iowa. A few tornadoes are still possible across SE MN and the metro as well as west-central WI this eve., mainly past 6 PM & before 9 PM. Have a severe weather plan ready. Storms will develop & track rapidly.

(Excerpt) Read more at kstp.com ...


TOPICS: Miscellaneous; US: Iowa; US: Minnesota; US: Wisconsin
KEYWORDS: chat; chatforum; highwinds; minnesota; notnews; thunderstorms; tornadoes; uppermidwest; weather; whirlwinds
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Not saying that this is gonna be like Arkansas and Kentucky - but it is similar.

When's the last time you remember parts of Minnesota and Iowa under a tornado watch IN DECEMBER?

I'm in the Twin Cities area (southern third-ring suburb) and I've heard multiple stories as to when it's gonna hit and where. Some are saying the worst will be in southern Minnesota and northern Iowa. Others are saying it'll hit the Twin Cities by 5PM. others are saying 8PM.

Stay tuned...

1 posted on 12/15/2021 2:01:47 PM PST by MplsSteve
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To: MplsSteve

Winter, But they have a bad memory...


2 posted on 12/15/2021 2:02:46 PM PST by Openurmind (The ultimate test of a moral society is the kind of world it leaves to its children. ~ D. Bonhoeffer)
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Red zone is the hot zone.

3 posted on 12/15/2021 2:04:10 PM PST by lightman (I am a binary Trinitarian. Deal with it!)
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Daughter in Iowa said it was 30 degrees yesterday, and today it’s 70 degrees. And that there is a tornado watch today. Weird weather for December.


4 posted on 12/15/2021 2:05:59 PM PST by roadcat
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To: lightman

Search “Ryan Hall y’all” on YouTube. Live-streaming the event.


5 posted on 12/15/2021 2:07:10 PM PST by rickomatic ( )
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To: MplsSteve
Things are already winding up:
Time	Location	County	State	Lat	Lon	Comments
1956	3 W GLENVIL 	ADAMS 	NE	4050	9831	EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT REPORTED TORNADO WITHIN LINE ... NO OTHER DETAILS AT THIS TIME. (GID)
2014	1 S EDGAR 	CLAY 	NE	4035	9797	TORNADO ON THE GROUND 1S OF EDGAR PER EM. (GID)
2104	COLUMBUS 	PLATTE 	NE	4144	9736	EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT REPORTS ROOF OFF HOUSE AFTER BRIEF TORNADO SPIN-UP. (OAX)
2113	2 SE HUMPHREY 	PLATTE 	NE	4167	9746	TORNADO ON THE GROUND. (OAX)
2140	BEEMER 		CUMING 	NE	4193	9681	CONFIRMED TORNADO BY FIRE DEPARTMENT. (OAX)


6 posted on 12/15/2021 2:07:23 PM PST by _Jim (Save babies)
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To: MplsSteve

One corner of Nebraska had 25 degrees, the other was 73.


7 posted on 12/15/2021 2:10:16 PM PST by bigbob
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Might be worse farther south in Iowa. Tornado watches in December aren’t unknown, but this level likelihood is very rare. At least it should pass in a few hours.


8 posted on 12/15/2021 2:10:41 PM PST by jjotto (Blessed are You LORD, who crushes enemies and subdues the wicked.)
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To: MplsSteve

https://data.sctimes.com/tornado-archive/


9 posted on 12/15/2021 2:13:04 PM PST by Sacajaweau ( )
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They really have few early records


10 posted on 12/15/2021 2:13:30 PM PST by Sacajaweau ( )
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Is there anything left there to destroy ???


11 posted on 12/15/2021 2:18:32 PM PST by Tennessee Nana
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To: lightman

Minneapolis-St Paul is just outside the red zone.

We’re in the orange Enhanced area.


12 posted on 12/15/2021 2:19:14 PM PST by MplsSteve
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Little off topic but, say these early winter storms are associated with climate change, global warming / cooling (whichever), what could anyone actually do about it? How would reducing carbon output in the US actually help, would it make a difference? Just curious, asking for my dog, she’s a good girl but can’t read. 🙃


13 posted on 12/15/2021 2:19:52 PM PST by The Louiswu (Peace to you and may God Bless you all)
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In before global warming/climate change is blamed again for these soon-to-be disasters!!!!


14 posted on 12/15/2021 2:20:44 PM PST by Tom Tetroxide
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On the bright side all the crops have been harvested.


15 posted on 12/15/2021 2:23:08 PM PST by Rebelbase
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To: The Louiswu

All valid points. Cutting carbon emissions would do nothing.

There may well be global warming happening now - but there’s no proof that human activity has had anything to do with it.


16 posted on 12/15/2021 2:23:28 PM PST by MplsSteve
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To: The Louiswu

“say these early winter storms are associated with climate change, global warming / cooling”

Which one is more powerful - man or nature?

“How would reducing carbon output in the US actually help, would it make a difference?”

Depends on if you see man as a cancer on the Earth or not. Since pre-Cambrian times Earth is now at a record low level of CO2. Right now it’s at about 450ppm. At 150ppm or lower all life goes extinct. It has gotten below 260ppm some 7,000 years ago and two thousand years before that global warming had peaked. Yes, the Earth has cooled as the Earth’s CO2 has gone up. Warming leads CO2 buildup by about 300 to 800 years.

“...what could anyone actually do about it?”
To stop the Earth’s climate from changing? Nothing. Can man change the Earth’s orbit? Nope. Can man change the number of sunspots on the Sun which affects the amount of clouds that are created on Earth? Nope. Can we change the output of the Sun? Nope.

The only thing we can do is adapt to the changes.

The Earth has been in an ice age for the past two million years. It has inter-glacials, like we have now, that last for about 11,500 years on average, and then goes back into the deep freeze for another 90,000 to 110,000 years. We see this cycle happening in the ice core samples from Antarctica and Greenland going back some 800,000 years.


17 posted on 12/15/2021 2:37:36 PM PST by Tom Tetroxide
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This from the NWS this morning:

Severe WX Briefing – NWS 211215 @ 1030
NWS Des Moines – National Storm Prediction Center (Norman OK)
“Extremely Rare and Historic Event Likely!”

Likely damage to trees, power lines… power outages likely….
Travel – likely incidents with trucks / busses – tip-overs

Line of fast-moving thunderstorms… threat of tornadoes has increased… strong tornadoes possible

Any fires that would start from electrical system failures would be difficult to control in these winds….

Blowing dust and debris likely !!!

30-40 mph winds from 11 am to noon…. Increasing intensity to max after ~ 4 pm

High wind warning goes into effect at 12 noon…. Ramp-up time 3-4 hours
Convective risk for severe thunderstorms increases during the afternoon…

Post-convective wind peaks may be as strong as 70 to 100 mph… time gap after storm passes to strongest sustained winds

Movement extremely fast from 4-9 pm

Uncharted territory…. VERY rare…. fast moving storms… timing could be trigger at sunset when you can’t see much… take warning seriously when issued…

Peak of thunderstorm winds will arrive after thunderstorms pass…,,. non-convective post-thunderstorm winds may peak an hour or more post thunderstorms….

If widespread power loss…. for recovery considerations, realize that temps will fall into the 30s after the system passes…

Not planning another briefing unless something changes….

Wind chart is the NON-THUNDERSTORM winds w/maximum sustained gust… not reflective of potential straight-line gusts post-convection….

Would not want to be on the roads with 60-70+ mph winds…. stay off the road unless absolutely necessary….

Rainfall…. with speed of storms, not expecting flooding…. system moving too fast… wind is primary concern….

Wind should be diminishing tomorrow morning ref school busing… should be OK tomorrow….


18 posted on 12/15/2021 2:39:47 PM PST by dnandell (Christian: "I will die for what I believe." Muslim: "You will die for what I believe." )
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To: MplsSteve

The US has tornadoes every month of the year. The number is at it’s lowest in the winter and peaks out in May. It does this once a year, every year since before recorded history.


19 posted on 12/15/2021 2:41:30 PM PST by Tom Tetroxide
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To: dnandell

More than dozen active tornado warnings in western Iowa


20 posted on 12/15/2021 2:43:37 PM PST by jjotto (Blessed are You LORD, who crushes enemies and subdues the wicked.)
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