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France turns to Ancient Greece for war on woke
Quebec Herald ^ | 11-17-21 | QB

Posted on 11/17/2021 7:31:15 AM PST by Brookhaven

France’s education minister has announced plans to boost the teaching of ancient Greek and Latin in an effort to fight the proliferation of wokeism and “develop the culture” of the country’s younger generations.

Speaking on Monday, Education Minister Jean-Michel Blanquer, a leading figure in France’s war on woke, said that ancient Greek and Latin would become available to sixth formers pursuing vocational courses next year, as well as middle school students.

Blanquer wants sixth formers to have the opportunity to “develop their culture” by reading ancient philosophers while gaining the technical qualifications that the economy demands.

Speaking at a charter signing, alongside counterparts from Italy, Greece, and Cyprus, the minister claimed their joint commitment to the promotion of the classics came at a time when ancient languages were being threatened by American wokeism.

The targeting of the dead languages has been most prominent in the US with Princeton University announcing this summer that it would no longer require classics students to study ancient Greek and Latin; the two vernaculars are often considered the core pillars of the discipline.

Dan-el Padilla Peralta, an associate professor of classics at Princeton, claimed the ancient languages had been used as a justification of slavery, colonialism, and fascism for 2,000 years.

In a similar move, a Massachusetts high school boasted that it had removed Homer’s Odyssey from the school curriculum as it conflicted with the anti-racist agenda it wanted to teach. “Very proud to say we got the Odyssey removed from the curriculum this year,” a teacher wrote on social media.

Blanquer told Le Point that such interpretations of the classics were “completely mind boggling.” “To stick categories and a contemporary world view on writings dating back two millennia is an abyssal absurdity,” he added, noting that these civilizations brought us “openness and a search for the universal.”

The minister believes that ancient languages are a common bond for contemporary European nations, noting that the “common linguistic fund” would help spread “common values.”

Blanquer also claimed the classics respond to a demand for logos (language as a tool for reason), in a world where “a lack of reason is spreading like wildfire.”

Last month, the education minister set up a think tank dedicated to President Emmanuel Macron’s war on wokeism.

The liberal or woke agenda, which some in France claim is an Anglo-Saxon import, is likely to be a major feature in the 2022 presidential election, where Macron’s main competitor is likely to hail from the far right of the political spectrum.


TOPICS: Culture/Society
KEYWORDS: epigraphyandlanguage; france; godsgravesglyphs; greek; latin
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• ancient languages were being threatened by American wokeism
• Princeton University announcing this summer that it would no longer require classics students to study ancient Greek and Latin
• Massachusetts high school boasted that it had removed Homer’s Odyssey from the school curriculum
1 posted on 11/17/2021 7:31:15 AM PST by Brookhaven
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To: Brookhaven

“I am Spartan. I call a ‘spade’ a ‘spade.’”


2 posted on 11/17/2021 7:34:24 AM PST by Fester Chugabrew (No nation that sanctions the wholesale slaughter of its unborn citizens is fit to endure.)
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To: Brookhaven

“Princeton University announcing this summer that it would no longer require classics students to study ancient Greek and Latin”

In other news, the math department will no longer require competence in algebra, geometry, trig or calculus.


3 posted on 11/17/2021 7:40:13 AM PST by irishjuggler
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To: Fester Chugabrew
Starting in the mid-19th century, American children had to be wrested out of their family traditions and religions by secretly socialistic, anti-intellectual conditioning, subjecting them, in compulsory, universal, police-enforced, deliberately dumbed-down schooling, beyond the parents’ knowledge and understanding, to the endless drudgery of factory schooling, “at least keeping them off the streets and out of trouble”, precisely from the age when their brains should be furiously, delightfully absorbing everything about the wonderful, fascinating world.

Because solid learning from ancient times, the Trivium of Grammar (good literature), Logic (how, not what, to think) and Rhetoric (persuading others of the truth, and learning it yourself in greater depth in the process), protected students from exploitation by elite controllers of society, students had to be subjected to the fun-house world familiar in the school institution today.

This required laying the foundation for schooling, not on the basis of the classics of Western Civilization, the first among equals of nine great world civilizations–the free legacy of each citizen of the world–but upon planned disruption of them and opposition to them–the chimera of cultural appropriation as asserted by people with no appreciable education themselves–by vilification of the great and the good books (Dead White Males), and by an insidious control curriculum to thwart the acquisition of a solid academic foundation, to deliberately “crush the imagination” and stymie development of habits of independent thought immune to elite control.

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4 posted on 11/17/2021 7:40:24 AM PST by CharlesOConnell (CharlesOConnell)
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To: Fester Chugabrew

Mirabile dictu!


5 posted on 11/17/2021 7:41:15 AM PST by MrChips ("To wisdom belongs the apprehension of eternal things." - St. Augustine )
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To: Brookhaven
In a similar move, a Massachusetts high school boasted that it had removed Homer’s Odyssey from the school curriculum as it conflicted with the anti-racist agenda it wanted to teach. “Very proud to say we got the Odyssey removed from the curriculum this year,” a teacher wrote on social media.

What's "racist" about The Odyssey?

6 posted on 11/17/2021 7:47:02 AM PST by Sans-Culotte (11/3-11/4/2020 - The USA became a banana republic.)
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To: Brookhaven
Here is an entertaining video of an American tourist wandering through Rome and speaking only Classical Latin, in which he is fluent. In another video, he visits the Vatican, where he converses with priests in Liturgical Latin.
7 posted on 11/17/2021 7:49:13 AM PST by Fiji Hill
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To: MrChips
"Iesous Naxoraios basileus ioudaios"

The Greek portion of the sign above Jesus at the cross saying "Jesus of Nazareth king of the Jews"

8 posted on 11/17/2021 7:53:38 AM PST by Tell It Right (1st Thessalonians 5:21 -- Put everything to the test, hold fast to that which is true.)
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To: Brookhaven

In my limited study of classical and Koine Greek I have yet to see the forest for the trees. That said, I have gained a desire to be precise with language and to think critically. Does not always work, however.


9 posted on 11/17/2021 7:54:02 AM PST by Fester Chugabrew (No nation that sanctions the wholesale slaughter of its unborn citizens is fit to endure.)
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To: Brookhaven

I had 8yrs of Latin and 1yr of Classical Greek, back in the 60s in HS and college, and it did wonders for my vocabulary and public speaking. I aced all courses, and enjoyed it immensely.


10 posted on 11/17/2021 7:56:56 AM PST by Carriage Hill (A society grows great when old men plant trees, in whose shade they know they will never sit.)
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To: irishjuggler

From what I have read, the Greek philosophers were a heavy influence on our Founding Fathers in crafting our government/ Constitution. This step is simply another step in the direction of erasing our history. Greek philosophers were NOT on the side of the Commies.


11 posted on 11/17/2021 8:10:16 AM PST by RatRipper (The Biden Adm is leading an attack against US citizens . . . pure evil.)
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To: KC_Lion

Ping.


12 posted on 11/17/2021 8:10:21 AM PST by Army Air Corps (Four Fried Chickens and a Coke)
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To: irishjuggler
In other news, the math department will no longer require competence in algebra, geometry, trig or calculus.

You are behind the times. My sister is a middle- and high-school math teacher. She says we passed that point years ago.

13 posted on 11/17/2021 8:11:36 AM PST by ProtectOurFreedom (“…in any great disaster, there's a Harvard man in the middle of it.” ~ Thomas Sowell)
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To: All

Vive la France ! Vive la Republique !

Give credit where credit is due !


14 posted on 11/17/2021 8:22:06 AM PST by Reily
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To: Sans-Culotte

—”What’s “racist” about The Odyssey?”

NOTHING!

Long ago I read (skimmed?) The Odyssey for a class.
My son recommended the Emily Wilson translation, OH MY!

Some of the best fiction, ever.

I knew the ending but about a third of the way in, I could not stop reading! I read all night!

And Tennyson’s Ulysses is a nice denouement, Odysseus was not born to sit around... So he puts the band back together for a world tour.

“Some work of noble note, may yet be done,
Not unbecoming men that strove with Gods.”

“We are not now that strength which in old days
Moved earth and heaven, that which we are, we are;
One equal temper of heroic hearts,
Made weak by time and fate, but strong in will
To strive, to seek, to find, and not to yield.”


15 posted on 11/17/2021 8:41:52 AM PST by DUMBGRUNT (("The enemy has overrun us. We are blowing up everything. Vive la France!"Dien Bien Phu last message)
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To: Brookhaven

Things like this and a high birth rate are why France is a real country.


16 posted on 11/17/2021 8:47:01 AM PST by Vision (Elections are one day. Reject "Chicago" vote harvesting. Election Reform Now. Obama is an evildoer.)
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To: Brookhaven
But Al Sharon said them GREEK HOMOS stole the ancient BLACK Egyptian's culture and made it their own. 🤔🙄


17 posted on 11/17/2021 8:52:00 AM PST by Impala64ssa (If a liar's pants really did catch on fire CNN and MSNBC would be more fun to watch)
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To: Impala64ssa

The Great Pyramid was built around 2,600 BC.

Alexander the Great (the high point of Greece) lived around 330 BC.

Egyptian civilization and culture predates Greece by at least 2,000 years, so he may have a point about the cultural appropriation.

As to black Egyptians, there is some evidence there were black rulers in Egypt from time to time (especially in the southern kingdom), but once the kingdoms were unified, the evidence points to the leaders being semitic—white Egyptians.

There is plenty of evidence that the Egyptians would routinely raid south of Egypt to capture people as slaves. Almost all of those people would have almost certainly have been black.


18 posted on 11/17/2021 10:51:08 AM PST by Brookhaven (The dystopian future is now!)
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To: StayAt HomeMother; Ernest_at_the_Beach; 1ofmanyfree; 21twelve; 24Karet; 2ndDivisionVet; 31R1O; ...
Speaking on Monday, Education Minister Jean-Michel Blanquer, a leading figure in France’s war on woke, said that ancient Greek and Latin would become available to sixth formers pursuing vocational courses next year, as well as middle school students.

19 posted on 11/28/2021 9:12:45 PM PST by SunkenCiv (Imagine an imaginary menagerie manager imagining managing an imaginary menagerie.)
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To: DUMBGRUNT

“There’s nothing nobler than a man and wife, of one heart and mind in a house:
A bane to their enemies; and to their friends, great joy.
But their own hearts know it best.”

Aha! Kinda sexist and un-inclusive? /s

Loved The Odyssey. Shared it with my daughters whom I home-schooled, and I did get a bit misty when we read the above. We all got a great education. The quote above hung in our home thereafter.


20 posted on 11/28/2021 9:31:05 PM PST by dasboot (Nuanced foreign relations is the germ of international misunderstanding. )
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