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'Everybody screwed up': Blame game begins over turbulent U.S. exit from Afghanistan
Reuters ^ | September 1, 2021 | By Idrees Ali and Patricia Zengerle, Arshad Mohammed

Posted on 09/02/2021 2:57:54 AM PDT by Oldeconomybuyer

... For months, military officials had urged the U.S. State Department to convince other countries to take Afghans at risk from Taliban retaliation. They had largely failed to secure agreements with other countries, prompting officials across the U.S. government to rush to try to find space for the evacuees.

The Biden administration's scramble was emblematic of failures over the past month, which culminated with a hastily organized airlift that left thousands of U.S.-allied Afghans behind and was punctuated by a suicide bombing outside Kabul's airport that killed 13 U.S. troops and scores of Afghans.

The chaotic end to America's longest war has sparked the biggest crisis of President Joe Biden's seven months in the White House, finger-pointing within the administration and questions about who, if anyone, would be held responsible.

Current and former officials and lawmakers said there is little appetite for Biden to fire or demote top advisers over the handling of the U.S. withdrawal.

Frustrated and angry, officials at the Pentagon have privately blamed the lack of urgency leading up to the airlift on the State and Homeland Security departments, who in turn have blamed the White House for slow decision-making.

"Finger-pointing is an ugly Washington sport ... in this case, fingers could be pointed in all directions and probably be right in each case," said Dan Fried, a former senior U.S. diplomat now at the Atlantic Council think tank.

"A failure like this is collective. Everybody screwed up," Fried added.

One Biden administration official, speaking on condition of anonymity, said any dismissal would be seen as a tacit admission that the president had erred in removing troops unconditionally from the South Asian nation.

(Excerpt) Read more at reuters.com ...


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: afghanistan; biden; bidenvoters; deepstate; failure
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1 posted on 09/02/2021 2:57:54 AM PDT by Oldeconomybuyer
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Are they stupid?
Are they Evil?

My money is on: Both.

But the Evil part disturbs me the most.


2 posted on 09/02/2021 3:01:56 AM PDT by ClearCase_guy (China is like the Third Reich. We are Mussolini's Italy. Weaker, a Jr partner good at losing wars.)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

The buck stops where?


3 posted on 09/02/2021 3:02:01 AM PDT by McGruff
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

“Everybody screwed up..”

Everybody= Biden, Blinken, Austin, Milley, McKenzie.


4 posted on 09/02/2021 3:03:42 AM PDT by Bonemaker (invictus maneo)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

“Frustrated and angry, officials at the Pentagon have privately blamed the lack of urgency leading up to the airlift on the State and Homeland Security departments, who in turn have blamed the White House for slow decision-making.”



This is the key. Joe Biden was never a good guy to turn to when good judgment was needed. But with his dementia and his ‘Lid Days’ and weekend trips home to Delaware to recuperate, Joe will never be there to make timely decisions in a fast-moving crisis.


5 posted on 09/02/2021 3:08:41 AM PDT by Tallguy (Press '2' to have your name removed from our call list...)
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To: ClearCase_guy

Dems have gotten lazy and over confident, too. Many of the key players were on vacation when everything went down. They are so use to Fake News wiping their bums that they felt they could do no wrong.


6 posted on 09/02/2021 3:09:37 AM PDT by lodi90
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To: lodi90

I’m tired of it. These people held Trump under a frigging microscope for 5 years ....they didn’t miss a single move he made and took all the time in the world to do it.

It’s OUR side that seems to be lazy and incompetent these days ....why are we not asking for their heads on a stick???


7 posted on 09/02/2021 3:15:10 AM PDT by LibsRJerks
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To: Tallguy

A senile, retarded potato is in no position to fire anyone for incompetence.


8 posted on 09/02/2021 3:22:39 AM PDT by Alberta's Child ("All lies and jest, ‘til a man hears what he wants to hear and disregards the rest.")
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

“There is little appetite for Biden to fire or demote…etc.”.

“Little appetite” among whom? The people responsible for some of these stupid decisions (made, in many cases, at the request of the Biden puppet himself)? Every sane person in the country wants heads to roll.

But they won’t. Half the people in the current regime are people who have long track records of unpunished incompetence.


9 posted on 09/02/2021 3:22:49 AM PDT by livius
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
Everybody? Who's Everybody?
There is One guy who is Responsible, who told Everybody what to do.

10 posted on 09/02/2021 3:25:38 AM PDT by BitWielder1 (I'd rather have Unequal Wealth than Equal Poverty.)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

“Somebody’s got to go to prison, Ben “


11 posted on 09/02/2021 3:26:10 AM PDT by digger48
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To: ClearCase_guy

NOT Stupid......EVIL...PURE EVIL and they ALL want America to be brought to her knees. They DESPISE AMERICA.....they MUST ALL BE PUNISHED!


12 posted on 09/02/2021 3:26:30 AM PDT by Ann Archy (Abortion....... The HUMAN Sacrifice to the god of Convenience.)
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To: BitWielder1

“Just Following Orders” doesn’t EXCUSE ANYONE ANYMORE! One dementia pedo is NOT the ONLY one responsible!


13 posted on 09/02/2021 3:29:01 AM PDT by Ann Archy (Abortion....... The HUMAN Sacrifice to the god of Convenience.)
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To: Alberta's Child

... but he’s going to do it. They’ve laid the groundwork to fire SecState Blinken. Blinken makes John Kerry look competent.


14 posted on 09/02/2021 3:29:09 AM PDT by Tallguy (Press '2' to have your name removed from our call list...)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

It was NOT A SCREW UP.

It was purposeful policy:

This is a glib article by a propagandists or the authors are stupid.

This was another Benghazi writ large. An attempt to side with the local tribesman at the cost of American lives, but the Obama /Biden grift in Bengazi failed because of a few brave Navy Seals. Now Afghanistan was on a much larger scale and CRT has made it into our strategic foreign policy.

Yet NOBODY talks about it.

It goes like this:

1) Obama apologized for Americas colonial role in its history where black brown and yellow people were exploited , a twisted apology for American Greatness and its role in rebuilding post WWII, including the supply of China with food and helping them evolve from a third world country. Obama was wrong and so are the others who support him, among them Biden.

2) Biden , Susan Rice, Valerie Jarrett and Barrack Obama still combimne to apply this policy today via the Biden White House, just as it was used throughout Arab Spring, and it was used also to destroy Libya unecessarily, which was truly a neo colonial war based on leftist principles.The first in our history.

3) America you see, according to Biden and his ilk, is a White Supremacist country. The war in Afghanistan was ended with the application of CRT. Biden pressed the flesh of the Taliban leadership, promised the Afghani native tribes “big heap weapons” and pallets of cash ( yes pallets of cash were left for the Taliban just as they were grifted to Iran..starting to get it yet?)Not to mention 62 BILLION USD worth of military ordnance, including a fleet of tanks and Blackhawk helicopters ( more than Australia has), all now erased from federal information websites.......it never happened you see? Buahahahahaha!

4) NATO allies are all White Supremacist countries, and they were consequently NOT NOTIFIED of the pull out before it happened.That was in punishment of their history of “exploiting black brown and yellow people.” Biden went against the advice of the military in doing this snub of the White Supremacists of Europe. The purpose was to destroy NATO effectiveness and unity so as to usher in a new era of non colonial world economy and strategy.It will fail and cause wars.

5) Biden knew exactly that the Taliban were taking over Afghanistan with the support and funding of both China and Pakistan. Many senior leaders in the Afghan military were bribed not to fight, and guaranteed free exits from the country into Pakistan.Joe knew all this for months yet did nothing.He wanted the Taliban to take over so he could recognize the poor Muslim brown people and put them in control of their own country, because a White Supremacist natin like the USA had no business there in the moderen WOKE world of Biden and his cronies, freedom of women and an open free Muslim society BE DAMNED! This thinking also supports why Joe would not even arrange for the translator who saved his Senatorial ass back in ‘02 to escape the wrath of the now pure Taliban. At every turn Biden knuckled under to the Taliban, would not secure Kabul, let the Taliban do it, unleashed ISIS on the world again, and holds out recognition of the Taliban as the legitimate government of Afghanistan while his gross , corrupt son sells his art in China, and historically has gleaned milions for Joe and his family from Russia, Ulraine and China. Now you see Joe’s support of the Russia pipeline, the US retreat from the ME allowing the Red Chinese to expand. There is a direct connection here between graft and US policy under Biden..he is payng his debts and those promised by Obama, likely to keep assassins from Russia and China at bay after Trump was elected and Hillery failed to usher in Brave New World.

And now we supposedly are in a Brave New World? All because of stupidity?

This thread article is complete SPIN.

We must rid ourselves of these liberal fascists, Biden, Harris, Booker, Obama, Susan Rice, and Valerie Jarret. We have had enough of thier apolagia politics and their CRT bull. And so has the free world.

We must rid oursleves of them at ALL costs.

Reutres’ Idrees Ali, Patricia Zengerle, and Arshad Mohammed are stupid or in league with the left.Take your pick.

The Biden left, Wolves in Sheep’s clothing, is perpetrating their draconian policy WITH PLAN AND PURPOSE.

Actions speak louder than words while the CRT left configures their speech to fool our nation into believeing that they love America. They hate America.And it is leading towards civil war, which is why we must rid oursleves of them before the only remedy is war against them.


15 posted on 09/02/2021 3:30:06 AM PDT by Candor7 ((Obama Fascism:http://www.americanthinker.com/2009/05/barack_obama_the_quintessentia_1.html) )
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To: Bonemaker

somehow coming from roid ers everyone includes trump so they can smooth this over . everybody is to blame lets move on


16 posted on 09/02/2021 3:32:17 AM PDT by ronnie raygun
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

This is a new take on the ever popular:

‘BOTH SIDES DO IT”

Which has been the Left’s way of softening their misconduct FOR YEARS.

And for the most part...PEOPLE BUY IT.


17 posted on 09/02/2021 3:33:04 AM PDT by Maris Crane
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” By Idrees Ali and Patricia Zengerle, Arshad Mohammed “
it took 3 people to write this?


18 posted on 09/02/2021 3:33:53 AM PDT by escapefromboston (Free Chauvin)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

The buck stops with the guy at the top. Truthfully, though I think Mark Milley and Lloyd Austin should be canned as well. Their gross incompetence cannot be ignored.


19 posted on 09/02/2021 3:46:16 AM PDT by FLT-bird
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You know who's to blame? I'll tell you who's to blame. Society!


20 posted on 09/02/2021 3:52:36 AM PDT by Sirius Lee (They intend to murder us. Prep if you want to live and live like you are prepping for eternal life)
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