Posted on 07/30/2021 4:52:05 PM PDT by RandFan
We couldn’t care less what you’re all for. Not everything revolves around you and what you want.
Piss off, tyrant.
Jane: Never said anything specifically aimed at the Wuhan virus. Was talking about all types of hands carrying viruses and bacteria in the past. The was especially true of diseases found on leafy vegetables from California. Maybe this was before your time but we used to get “alerts” in stores (and recalls for some contaminated items) on TV, radios, notices in newspapers and from the stores themselves.
This applied to dysentery and other stomach bacterium/viruses. If you’ve never had Amoebic Dysentery, you don’t know what an internal nuclear explosion in your stomach feels like. I had it in the middle of a jungle, about 3:00 AM during a torrential monsoon storm. It can kill you unless you get antibiotics immediately.
Re cashiers, etc. I didn’t mention the Wuhan virus. I applied it to other diseases that can be picked up on the hands and transferred by contact to objects/people, esp. money (stores used to bleach their dollar bills during extreme outbreaks but this was in the past. Now they can use ultraviolet light to do it in minutes.
Remember, polio and the plague were passed on by touch of contaminated animals/bites, foods, garbage, etc. The same for leprosy. When I arrived in So. Vietnam in Oct. 1970, they were holding the Third World Conference on the Plague in our hotel (SVN, possibly Indonesia and either Mexico or the US were the main countries who suffered serious threats or outbreaks of the Plague back then. We still have it now in the mid-west and possibly in Mexico. A couple decades ago it was in Indonesia/Sarawak.
Don’t for get bat and other animal rabies (by bites). Rabies exist all around the world, esp. in caves such as those in Red China, Chile and other Guano-harvesting areas. It might include bat caves in New Mexico, possibly Kentucky, Arizona, etc.
Re the term “we can bend a little bit” - means we can be “flexible” in some situations.
The wearing of masks inside of food stores has several components to it. If the store asks you to do something relating to health, why not comply? It may be inconvenient but it won’t hurt you do to it. I do it in food stores (most have now dropped the request) esp. of they are crowded. Often depends on the type of clientele they have. I stopped going to Wal Mart about 1-1/2 years ago because there were a lot of illegal aliens shopping there. Also, I did a lot of my shopping at a smaller Harris Teeter at night. Quieter, shelves were being stocked, the place was cleaned all the time, etc. I have very good relations with the managers/staff at my H-T and have ended up making some suggestions to them re shelving, improving health conditions re keeping certain foods better “iced” and in cooler cabinets, etc.
The staff give me a lot of information on new products, when stocking is going to take place, when sales are coming on items I eat as basic foods, and management policies.
When I go outside the store, I take the mask off.
Also, I have very bad allergies which cause quick sneezes that could blow books off a shelf. I had a surprise one the other day while I was getting an Iron infusion. My mask contained any spray that would have spread throughout the treatment room where some very sick active cancer patients were getting their infusions.
The nurse took my mask, disposed of it safely and gave me a new one, all in about 30 seconds. No problems but a couple of laughs due to the suddenness of the sneeze and its force. Also, everyone in the Oncology ward had to wear a mask due to the serious condition of some of the patients and to protect the nurses/doctors from getting anything.
I am not living in fear of this disease. I’ve already died once so death is more a nuisance factor than a crippling one. If my tests in August come back positive for a new batch of pancreatic cancer, I’m basically toast. I’ve already beaten cardiac arrest/comas/pneumonia/brain seizures (all within 5 day period, as well as the end of Stage 1 pancreatic cancer. A few more days and I wouldn’t be writing this reply to you.
I do take Vitamin D as a prescription medicine as well as drink juices with Vitamin B and Zinc. I listen to my doctors as they’ve saved my life twice, plus I grew up in a medical family and married into one with a doctor and two high level cancer nurses/administrators.
Thanks for your prayers. I appreciate that.
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The People can’t use math like this to reach your argument’s conclusion. So, the People won’t be convinced, because they’ll only see the “91 vs 58” result.
We can’t even get them to look at the premises - but vast majorities have not thought about this: the “risk of covid death” numbers are soooo low.
This therapeutic can exist and be trialed and sold over many years, but the level of hysteria and propaganda and coercion involved here in pushing them on EVERYONE NOW is demonic.
Demonic is the only word to explain it.
These mfkrs are pushing for a fight that is long overdue
How much harder do you think they have to push. They’ve suspended due process. They’ve suspended the First Amendment. They’ve threatened to nuke your ass. What are you going to do about it?
Thank you for your post. Good information.
They will have to rescind our religious freedom to accomplish this.
All questions I have for my doctor when I see her at the VA on August 10th. Those, and MORE.
Curious to see how much of an advocate she is for this, being a Federal Worker and most likely Ex-Military, having the jab demanded of herself to keep her own job by Herr Biden!
We military-types, when given the opportunity, do NOT fall in line as willingly as one would think.
Yeh good luck with that one. 🙄
I would hope that those in the food business would get the vaccines if they are in good shape. Contaminated food has been one of the great disease spreaders of even modern times (spoiled meats, fish, poultry, eggs, lettuce (from California where workers used to crap in the fields), etc.
Cashiers should also get them as they touch contaminated money all the time. Many now wear gloves at work and in the few stores I go to, I haven’t heard of any COVID cases.
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Do you know of any studies on surface transmissibility of the Delta Virus? I.e., touching something and getting the virus from that surface...
All I have read about the Delta variant is that the viral load in the throat is higher than in original, and hence Delta is more transmissible.
True, however, a recent government official said “99%” of COVID-19 deaths are in the unvaccinated:
https://www.cnet.com/health/99-of-covid-deaths-are-now-of-unvaccinated-people-experts-say/
So, who’s lying?
“How many stores even enforced the mask mandate all last year? Form my experience,...”
You raise a good point. My own observations from the last year were that Houston and San Antonio quickly got over the mask craze, with the possible exception of HEB and their clientele of Karens.
But it was a very different story on the coast. So perhaps, if the Junta does decide to full-on mandate the vax, red America will just ignore them and go about their business, and the Blue cities will be where the enforcement occurs. And that might be ok.
Just trying to figure out where these authoritarian goons are going to strike next.
Not trying to be deliberately obtuse here, but I’m still not sure I’m following you.
“Who are these people who will enforce this” you mean in the context of civil disobedience where someone just decides to refuse to show evidence of compliance with “mandate” and just walks in to a store and tries to go about his business in peace?
If that’s the question, then the answer depends on how many people would refuse. That is probable dependent on where one lives. On the coasts, I think that there would be very few, so the state would merely need to raise the transaction costs of noncompliance just a little bit and almost everyone would fall in line.
So, on the coasts, who is the person who will enforce? Let’s start with the checkout register. “I need you to scan you vax passport before I can check you out”. Then if you try to leave with the goods, I suspect there will be so few people doing this that private security can either detain the involuntary shoplifter, or simply relieve him of his cheerios and hamburger meat. Other shoppers will certainly chip in as well, as we saw on
Staten Island last year with shoppers evicting maskless neighbors from the local grocery. Those are the people who will be on the ground enforcing a “mandate”.
But the red counties are a different problem, and this is where you raise an excellent question, and one that the Biden Junta has probably been asking itself. There, noncompliance is likely to be widespread, which is both a problem and an opportunity for them. So, let’s say that there won’t be enough people to actually prevent widespread civil disobedience. That is why I expect that they would continue to weaponize the financial system, workplace safety regulations, punitive fines for any establishment that dares to serve unvaxed patrons and the like. So, in that case, if they went through with it, who are the people who would enforce such a regime? It would be thousands of nameless bureaucrats who would seek to strangle, slowly, the red counties into compliance. That’s got to be tempting for them, but some part of them has to know that would move our current cold civil war into the hot zone.
Maybe I’ll keep that F-15 fueled up and ready just in case.
Did you not say this?
Who in the trenches or store level, is going to stop them from entering the stores?
Have you not seen the widespread force or violence over this bull shit like masks, for the past year or so?
Did you not say they don’t need to use force?
Yes you did. Then you go on to say the cashiers, private security and others are going to stop them by force.
So which is it?
I most certainly did say that.
And yes, I have, personally, be subjected to (hilarious) threats of force, though, strangely, no one has so far decided that it would be a good idea to put hands on me. So I feel you. And I’m not trying to be obtuse. I’m really just trying to work this out in my own mind on the off chance that someone (my idiot Governor, or the doddering fool occupying the White House) decides to “mandate” the jab.
That said, in answer to your question, which is critical, “Who in the trenches or store level, is going to stop them from entering the stores?”
I say no one. No one needs to. But one enters a grocery store for a reason, generally to leave with some food, and in my case, a six-pack of Lonestar.
So, let them in the store. Just refuse to process the transaction when they try to pay. Cancel the miscreants credit cards. Close their bank accounts. Fine them. Who cares if they pay, you can always garnish their wages if they still have jobs. Revoke their driver’s licenses. They have a CCW? Revoke that. Have CPS pay a visit if they have kids. There are plenty of options available to the Junta if they decide they want to deploy them IMHO.
That’s my answer. Those are the people who would enforce this, and those are the tools I think that they would use.
I could be wrong.
Bkmk. Thank you.
You're not paying attention to the events of the past couple years. You/they want to starve people and bar them from obtaining basics like food? Expect the very worse with lots of people getting hurt and killed.
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