Posted on 06/27/2021 5:54:44 AM PDT by Jan_Sobieski
Well the 2020 linked page lists 377,883 "Covid-19 deaths" which it defines as: Deaths with confirmed or presumed COVID-19 as an underlying or contributing cause of death, with the International Classification of Diseases, Tenth Revision code U07.1
Found this cdc page describing this classification. It summarizes as follows:
Among 378,048 death certificates from 2020 listing COVID-19, 5.5% listed COVID-19 without codes for any other conditions. Among 378,048 death certificates with at least one other condition, 97% had a co-occurring diagnosis of a plausible chain-of-event condition (e.g., pneumonia or respiratory failure), or a significant contributing condition (e.g., hypertension or diabetes), or both.
Note that only 5.5% did not have any other condition. Common sense suggests to me that at least these 5.5% should be chalked up to covid, but it is not clear to me how many of the other 94.5% of this 378,048 should be.
If we split the uncertain 94.5% in half and add it to the 5.5% (showing math in python intepretetr):
>>> total = 357_048
>>> pure_covid = 0.055 * total
>>> pure_covid 19637.64
>>> mixed_covid = 0.945 * total
>>> mixed_covid
337410.36
>>> guestimate = pure_covid + (0.5 * mixed_covid)
>>> guestimate
188342.82
Which gets us to 188,343 deaths that were due to covid.
But that is less than half of the half million extra deaths.
So what could have caused the other 312,000 or so extra deaths in 2020? Maybe lockdowns?
Still alive and kicking. Just saying.
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Because you’re a troll.
Hey, troll-boi.
How often do post-menopausal women suddenly begin having periods again?
Pull your head out of the sand.
One of the jabs’ phase 3 trials (as reported by a Jab-troll) was in the New England Journal of Medicine.
8 monkeys with hihg dose jab.
8 monkeys with low dose jab.
8 monkeys in the control group.
That’s not even a CNN-poll saying “Trump voters prefer Biden”...
What's your PhD in troll?
Good catch!
You’re simply lying through your foul teeth.
The cardiomyopathy among teens getting the jab is TENS OF TIMES the background rate; even with the pro-jabbers putting their finger on the scale by considering a longer time period for the general public than for those jabbed.
The numbers are SO reliable for the background, that the 95% confidence interval for the # of cases in the general public is between 8 and 83.
Because SCIENCE!™
You don't need a PhD to spot a false narrative, just a modicum of common sense.
Ironic that the same bunch of poorly educated mo rons who spent three years telling us to 'Trust the plan' and 'Trust Trump' are now screeching about the danger from the Trump vaccines.
So am I and am not getting the injection.
I read it all and completely disagree with your comment.
They explained their decisions objectively and rationally.
Context matters!
Yes, but you’re the one who insisted in the words “poorly educated” which makes *your* education fair game.
As far as “Trust Trump” — you’re now claiming anyone who trusted or still trusts Donald Trump, is a moron?
You aren't thinking clearly because you are driven by fear. How do you compare 2018 and 2019 with 2020? The entire society was LOCKED DOWN in 2020. . .no elective surgeries, increased drug usage and OD's, increased suicides, increase murder rates, domestic disputes. . .how do those unique circumstances effect one year's total ticking upward? Yea, it's COVID. . .COVID Hysteria, I'd say. . .and you clearly have a lethal case of it . . Anyway, I'm wasting my time trying to convince somebody gripped in fear, who is obviously curled up in a fetal ball under their desk.
Try this instead. . . 1.Maintain your vitamin D levels during this time, 2. If you begin to show symptoms of COVID get treated with Hydroxychloroquine/Zinc combo or Ivermectin. You won't die of COVID. I know a respected medical professional who has treated over 2000 patients with COVID and has only lost two (2) and one had cancer and the other was in her 90's. The urgency for the experimental gene therapy is CONTRIVED and unnecessary. . .you are being PLAYED by the Incestuous relationship of the Demon-crat/Big PHARMA/Media cabal. Follow the money ya big Wuss!!
I refuted a false statement of yours, nothing more. You said 220,000 people a year die on average and 2020 was the same as 2019.
If you want to debate why more people died (after you said they didn’t) I’m not interested. All of the factors you cite on the other side of the goalpost you just moved are debatable, and most likely background noise, not at all compelling.
Read your posts, and look at the tone. One of us does indeed come across as hysterical. Fear is throwing up a barricade of false beliefs around yourself to pretend a global tragedy is all just a conspiracy.
I already told you I’m not worried about any of my family, including my parents in their mid-80s. I’m not sure what service you think you are performing, but it’s clearly not worth my time to try to sort out.
This exactly what you are doing. Did I deny there has been a global tragedy? No. Did I put forth the notion that it is "all just a conspiracy?" No. So then, who is the one constructing barricades?
What I am saying is that all is not what it appears to be. Second opinions from trusted healthcare professionals are warranted. Given the growing number of medical experts that are now having serious reservations about a so-called vaccine that has failed every animal test and can only be administered under EUA sanction. . .should, at least, raise some concerns and temper your groundless faith in the human experiment.
With survivability of COVID at 99% and with safe and effective treatments available, your thoughtless cheerleading for the Progressive/media/big pharma/government solution may lead someone to make a decision they will eternally regret.
Enough said!
Agreed. More than enough said. Good day to you.
Are Deep States thinking about cutting their losses..?
The total death data in the two CDC documents I site are based on tallies of State raw data for death from ANY CAUSE.
The data comes from death certificates filed from local medical examiners.
It’s extremely clear that over 600k people have died in the last 18 months who otherwise wouldn’t have.
Did ALL of them die from COVID? NO
Did the VAST MAJORITY of them die from COVID? YES, although the vast majority of them were not in the best of health, shall we say.
The shutdown reduced deaths of some types, increased deaths in others. Definitely never was worth locking down everything, but the public wouldn’t accept that type of approach with someone as antithetical to the Left as POTUS, and so the political idiots ran away with the power grab.
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