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Republicans have dumped Reagan for Trump
thehill ^ | 05/12/2021 | Albert Hunt

Posted on 05/12/2021 6:44:46 AM PDT by ChicagoConservative27

The choice between Elise Stefanik and Liz Cheney for a House Republican leadership post serves as a proxy war between Donald Trump and Ronald Reagan for the soul of the Party.

Reagan and Cheney — and Republicans generally — appear certain to be the losers.

For decades after he left office, Ronald Reagan was a glue that united Republicans, just as Franklin D. Roosevelt was for Democrats. Now Trump dominates the Republican Party; Liz Cheney had the audacity to tell the truth: that Trump lost the last election, which many of her House GOP colleagues are too cowardly to acknowledge.

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: albertchunt; alberthunt; cuck; cuckpublican; dumped; reagan; republicans; therealcuck; trump
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To: cuban leaf

The Bush, Dole, Bush, McCrap, Willard dream team really got folks fired up to the polls yet they all lost


101 posted on 05/12/2021 8:10:30 AM PDT by personalaccts (Is George W going to protect the border?)
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To: ChicagoConservative27

As far as I am concerned “TheHill” is just an extension of the WP. I am done with them.


102 posted on 05/12/2021 8:10:47 AM PDT by Revel
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To: TangledUpInBlue

You might be interested in this thread.


103 posted on 05/12/2021 8:11:20 AM PDT by proud American in Canada (As Patrick Henry once said, "Give me Liberty or Give me Death!" Especially now.)
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To: ChicagoConservative27

It is not a choice between Reagan or Trump, it’s a choice between Bush or Trump/Reagan


104 posted on 05/12/2021 8:15:35 AM PDT by McBuff (To be, rather than to seem)
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To: ChicagoConservative27

Total B.S.

If Reagan had been around (and younger) in 2016 and Reagan had seen all that we saw since the Clinton era, he and Trump would have been running mates.


105 posted on 05/12/2021 8:18:07 AM PDT by Wuli ("")
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To: ChicagoConservative27

We all knew Ronald Reagan, and Liz Cheney is no Ronald Reagan nor does she represent Ronald Reagan. She represents the wing of the Republican party that has been trying to throw away the Reagan legacy and give the nation to the Dims. If Reagan was alive he’d tell the author he has no right to assume he and Liz Cheney agree on anything.


106 posted on 05/12/2021 8:22:18 AM PDT by Wuli ("")
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To: CodeToad
Dick Cheney, her father, HATED Reagan.

Based on what evidence?

He gave Reagan's eulogy.

In his diary, President Reagan recorded his pleasure in Cheney's defense of the administration, and Reagan's press secretary described Cheney as "probably the most effective supporter the President has in the House of Representatives, because he's intelligent and he can support the President without appearing to be following the President blindly."

Reagan was a maverick in the beginning and was opposed by the Establishment. But they learned to live with him and accept him and many came to see themselves as Reaganites. Trump is a maverick now and in that he has some kinship with Reagan. He wasn't able to tame or win over the GOP Establishment and still faces opposition from the elite.

I don't like Cheney either, but facts are facts and ought to take precedence over one's likes and dislikes.

107 posted on 05/12/2021 8:29:11 AM PDT by x
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To: x

Cheney worked with the Bush’s to overturn everything Reagan ever tried to do. Weasels do that: Pretend to support while working to destroy.


108 posted on 05/12/2021 8:32:22 AM PDT by CodeToad (Arm up! They Have!)
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To: ctdonath2

“Yes, Trump lost - because the Constitutional referees ignored what many saw as obvious fraud, and denied him a win.”

Even Hitler’s elections were honest and legitimate. Dems will stop at nothing to steal power.


109 posted on 05/12/2021 8:33:29 AM PDT by Bonemaker (invictus maneo)
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To: the OlLine Rebel
You make some good points. Reagan had more experience in politics and was able to win over the Republicans (and even some Democrats) in Congress and the country. In that way, he was more effective (though even he had trouble getting things through Congress).

But Reagan opened the door to globalization and deindustrialization and wasn't serious about stopping illegal immigration. I concede that Reagan will rank as a better president in our history - one of the best - but we need another Trump now, not another Reagan, and I'll be wary of politicians who want to wrap themselves in Reagan and ignore or dismiss Trump.

110 posted on 05/12/2021 8:34:59 AM PDT by x
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To: ChicagoConservative27

Boy, who pulled Al Hunt out of the swamp for this opinion piece? One forgets how awful he was.


111 posted on 05/12/2021 8:48:08 AM PDT by ReleaseTheHounds ("The problem with Socialism is that eventually you run out of other people's money." M. Thatcher )
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To: mac_truck
“Lol...is Albert Hunt still alive”

Married to the tortured voiced Judy Woodruff.

112 posted on 05/12/2021 8:51:41 AM PDT by PsyCon
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To: ChicagoConservative27

I don’t see anyone dissing Reagan with regard to Trump. This is an
incredibly misguided notion.

Trump supporters love Reagan.

The Communists still can’t take a pass on inferring Reagan support has
vanished. Total B S.

As if, Liz is anything like Reagan.


113 posted on 05/12/2021 8:58:38 AM PDT by DoughtyOne (Folks, if you haven't yet, please start an automatic monthly for Jim and his crew.)
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To: Sir_Humphrey

Bingo.

Reagan also had a Dem Congress except for 2 measly years of Senate. Trump had all years Repub Senate. Trump actually also dropped the ball on several issues, never mind the chaos of his admin.

Reagan could move it forward. Trump cannot.

Trump is good for many things, but he is not the 2nd coming.


114 posted on 05/12/2021 9:06:36 AM PDT by the OlLine Rebel (Common sense is an uncommon virtue./Federal-run medical care is as good as state-run DMVs. I )
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To: ChicagoConservative27

Incorrect premise. Lizard Cheney is NO Ronald Reagan.


115 posted on 05/12/2021 9:08:46 AM PDT by stratboy
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To: x

I appreciate your discussion. Rather than raging dismissal!

See my #100. The illegal thing seems to be the only thing EverTrumpers put up against Reagan. Yet he had more to work against him than Trump did (in theory).


116 posted on 05/12/2021 9:09:46 AM PDT by the OlLine Rebel (Common sense is an uncommon virtue./Federal-run medical care is as good as state-run DMVs. I )
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To: ChicagoConservative27

WAIT! Al FREAKING Hunt is STILL alive? Seriously?


117 posted on 05/12/2021 9:10:29 AM PDT by Charlemagne on the Fox
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To: the OlLine Rebel

LOL...I forgot to add : Did Reagan get re-elected?


118 posted on 05/12/2021 9:12:34 AM PDT by Sir_Humphrey ( I wiIl not be pushed, filed, stamped, indexed, briefed, debriefed, or numbered! My life is my own!)
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To: ChicagoConservative27

We haven’t dumped one for the other. We have both! The policy differences between the two Presidents aren’t significant IMO. Trump uses tariffs more than Reagan, for example. Their rhetorical styles are very different but policy substance and results matter more.


119 posted on 05/12/2021 9:18:41 AM PDT by IFly4Him
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To: ChicagoConservative27

If my memory serves me correctly Cheney Sr. didn’t support Reagan in either 1976 or 1980 during the primary.


120 posted on 05/12/2021 9:20:47 AM PDT by MSF BU
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