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A Different Type of Secession Is Already Happening in the USA
Townhall.com ^ | January 31, 2021 | Jeff Crouere

Posted on 01/31/2021 5:55:31 AM PST by Kaslin

Lately, there has been so much frustration with the last election and the direction of our country that some Trump supporters have been talking about “secession.” Many conservatives and libertarians are asking if it makes sense for certain states to leave the union the way South Carolina left in 1860, after the election of Abraham Lincoln as president of the United States.

Whether it makes “sense” or not, we can be assured that it will not happen. Although the South Carolina state legislature voted in November of 1860 to initiate the process of secession, no state legislature would do that today. This is because most modern state legislatures, even conservative ones, do not have many members who are angry enough at the federal government to support seceding from it.

Never forget that many individual state legislators are professional politicians. They may disagree with some of the policies that flow from Washington D.C., but they are not angry enough to vote for secession, and that is what is required to secede, anger. While an official secession will not happen, there will be a different type. In fact, it has already started in our country.

Instead of state legislatures, dominated by urban dwellers, voting for secession, Americans who live in rural and some suburban areas are executing a secession of their own. They are disassociating themselves from the lifestyles, cultural mores, laws, and self-inflicted wounds exhibited in our large cities.

Of course, rural Americans are already living in areas removed from large cities, but geography is only one of the many differences. An even more striking distinction involves political ideology and attitudes on an array of issues like criminal justice.

Citizens living outside of ultra-progressive urban areas do not accept what is going on in large cities. Surely, the thinking is, “I am not one of them. They are different from me. We do not agree on basic things, like what laws should govern human conduct.”

This mental disassociation did not exist in previous times of crisis in our country. There was much more national unity in December of 1941 or even September of 2001. At that time, rural Americans and city dwellers still had many shared values and followed the same laws. Clearly, the similarity in culture and politics between rural and urban Americans is dying, and the pace of its death march is quickening.

This same type of disassociation is also felt by many Americans living in suburban areas. They recognize their way of life is incompatible with that exhibited in large cities. This results in suburban dwellers venturing into cities less often. Once there, they feel unsafe and unwelcome. According to the FBI, crime rates in our urban areas are significantly higher than in suburban and rural areas.

More crime is not the only difference Americans notice in large cities. There are also different laws regarding decency, civility, and cleanliness. Unfortunately, manners and traditional customs are rarely, if ever, practiced.

Many horrific things can happen to you in a large city without warning. You can be struck from behind in a “Knockout Attack” or wounded by a stray bullet. You can be surrounded by violent demonstrators who scream at you and call you evil because of your wealth, race, religious views, or political beliefs. This is not a place that feels comfortable or feels like home.   

Over the past few decades, millions of Americans who support traditional American values, and even some who value safety, have already left our large cities. They are disgusted with the political corruption, high taxes, racial politics, homelessness and, over the past year, the excessive Covid-19 lockdown orders. 

People leaving are also those who value their second amendment rights. They do not want to be charged with a crime if they have to defend their home. Who can forget what happened to Mark and Patricia McCloskey in St. Louis?

On June 28, 2020, their neighborhood was overrun by protesters and a mob was descending on the McCloskey’s home. The couple waved firearms in front of their home to encourage the protesters to leave. No gun was ever fired at any of the trespassers. Incredibly, Mr. and Mrs. McCloskey were charged with the unlawful use of a weapon even though they feared for their lives. If convicted, they could face up to four years in prison and a fine of $10,000.

As this trend continues and cities like St. Louis, Detroit, San Francisco, Seattle, Portland, Washington D.C., and New York City decline even more, these areas will simultaneously become more similar. They already have much in common politically. Future cooperation will likely continue on issues such as drug legalization, the treatment of homelessness, gun control, permissive law enforcement, and providing a sanctuary and support for illegal aliens. With so much commonality, these cities will forge even closer bonds in the days ahead.

With unworkable policies and massive bureaucracies, these cities will need greater and greater subsidies from productive, tax-paying citizens living in rural and suburban America. Urban areas have been failing financially for many years, but as the policies become more progressive, the costs are escalating even higher.

In large cities, politicians spend vast sums of money on enormous municipal government systems which include inefficient departments featuring payrolls that are too large and too expensive. Other characteristics include broken infrastructure, rampant homelessness, and an overly generous municipal pension system.

How much longer will productive taxpayers living in rural and suburban communities agree to subsidize large cities? Sooner or later, these citizens will say “Enough is enough, we want out!” They will want the urban centers to form their own “United Cities of America” with their own laws and lifestyles.

Simultaneously, Americans living in non-urban areas will want to forge closer bonds of their own as similarities are recognized even more. 

The secession of 1860 will not happen again, but a different kind is already taking place.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Editorial; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: banglist; crime; dividednation; rural; secession; urban; whencitiesdie; whencountriesdie
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To: Kaslin

First thing to do is in those states where the voting system is no longer valid the Republican party needs to be dissolved, and a new freedom party put in place.

Just as our founding fathers divided the government in an attempt to keep any one branch from obtaining too much power. So must our political party system become. A two party system lacks enough diversity to accomplish this and accommodates collusion.


21 posted on 01/31/2021 6:20:46 AM PST by MagillaX (My)
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To: PGalt
Rudy will not be able to represent DJT in impeachment trial.

Well, that means President Trump has a fighting chance. Rudy’s inept legal strategy overshadowed any positive outcomes regarding election fraud,

22 posted on 01/31/2021 6:21:10 AM PST by Fury
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To: Kaslin

I wonder if the author is familiar with what is going on in Texas right now. Or has considered that some counties, e.g. Weld County, CO, are considering switching their allegiance to neighboring (red) states, to abandon their deep blue current masters.


23 posted on 01/31/2021 6:21:37 AM PST by coloradan (They're not the mainstream media, they're the gaslight media. It's what they do. )
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To: cgbg

Colonization


24 posted on 01/31/2021 6:22:16 AM PST by griswold3 (Democratic Socialism is Slavery by Mob Rule)
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To: thirst4truth

We are in a red county with the DA and Sheriff very conservative,


As suggested by others, make sure you have a personal relationship with him. He may need you and you may need him.


25 posted on 01/31/2021 6:22:42 AM PST by PeterPrinciple (Thinking Caps are no longer being issued but there must be a warehouse full of them somewhere.)
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To: bert

Wish they’d opt out entirely rather than gumming it with their delegation to Congress. The rest of the country would stand a far better chance of getting out of the mess it’s in.


26 posted on 01/31/2021 6:22:49 AM PST by BradyLS (DO NOT FEED THE BEARS!)
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To: cgbg; Kaslin
When cities die they take their civilizations with them.

History is _very_ clear on that point.

Like when the COVID Lockdowns closed all of the restaurants in the cities.

The rat population that depended on the food waste from the restaurants began to forage far and wide to survive.

As the big city’s population begin to dwindle the criminal population that depended on the wider population of that city as prey those criminals will have to venture out into the suburbs to find worthwhile prey.

Predators go where the prey is.

But the prey in the suburbs is not easy prey. At least not now. Biden will try to soften us up for them.

27 posted on 01/31/2021 6:24:04 AM PST by Pontiac (The welfare state must fail because it is contrary to human nature and diminishes the human spirit)
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To: Fury

said he might be called as a witness (as the reason)


28 posted on 01/31/2021 6:24:41 AM PST by PGalt (confirmed: past peak civilization)
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To: Kaslin

irreconcilable differences require war or separation


29 posted on 01/31/2021 6:25:49 AM PST by mjp ((pro-{God, reality, reason, egoism, individualism, natural rights, limited government, capitalism}))
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To: Pontiac

Like when the COVID Lockdowns closed all of the restaurants in the cities.

per my yesterday observations on White Lake...

Those pesky non-essentials.

FYI

YUGE defiance today against chubby Michigan Medusa wretched Hitler.

Frozen white lake is PACKED. Snow machine races. Dirt bike spiked tire races. Ice fishing. 80% no masks. Others have on cuz it’s cold. BIG PARTAY. Lots of happy out there. ZERO social distancing.

Reporting from swamp Michigan


30 posted on 01/31/2021 6:28:44 AM PST by PGalt (confirmed: past peak civilization)
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To: cgbg

Hmmm... when cities die, countries die.

America is a big country though. And the cities can fester a long, long time.


31 posted on 01/31/2021 6:29:16 AM PST by EBH (Repent, Accept, Proclaim )
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tomorrow indoor dining opening up 25% capacity. thank to wicked witch of midwest. can she re-tighten? hold the line? dunno?


32 posted on 01/31/2021 6:30:35 AM PST by PGalt (confirmed: past peak civilization)
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To: Kaslin

How long will the Pentagon let this Insurrection and Occupation of the US Capital by the Democrats go on ?


33 posted on 01/31/2021 6:33:59 AM PST by butlerweave
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To: cgbg

we want them to feel unsafe and unwelcome when they come to our turf. How do we do that?


I still wear my red Trump hat.

The magic of the hat is only who it keeps away but also who it attracts. Quite often a young man will say, “I like your hat.” He needs encouragement and sometimes it is as simple as wearing a hat.

find the people who still have the Trumps signs out and introduce your self.


34 posted on 01/31/2021 6:34:12 AM PST by PeterPrinciple (Thinking Caps are no longer being issued but there must be a warehouse full of them somewhere.)
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To: Kaslin
I believe there will be a different type of secession in the future or at least I hope there will be.

se•ces•sion sĭ-sĕsh′ən►
n. The act of seceding.
n. The withdrawal of 11 Southern states from the Union in 1860–1861, precipitating the US Civil War.
n. The act of seceding or withdrawing; withdrawal; retirement; seclusion; detachment; separation.

More at Wordnik from The American Heritage® Dictionary of the English Language, 5th Edition.

Let's go with the third definition, given it is of the bloodless variety. Keep your money to yourself. Do not give that money to people whom you disagree. Boycott. Starve the left of money. Starve the left of your skills. Boycott. Strike. Yes, that means not working for some globalist corporation. Let them collapse from their own lack of ability. If you are a business owner, hire like minded people and fire those who you disagree. Withhold the fruits of your labor and business from leftists. Put leftists into the poor house. Starve them of resources. Deny them your products and services. Decide to do business only with those that share your values. Isn't it better than a blood bath? It's a worthy step for our freedoms and rights before having to get really ugly.

Realize you have control. It may cost you, but freedom is not free. At least you can live with yourself.

35 posted on 01/31/2021 6:37:46 AM PST by ConservativeInPA (“When injustice becomes law, resistance becomes duty.” ― Thomas Jefferson)
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To: Kaslin

Not mentioned in this article is the politicization of law enforcement. As we’ve seen over and over again from DA’s to judges to even juries in certain places like Washington DC, if they support your politics you can literally get away with murder....and that’s if you’re even charged. If they don’t like your politics however, you will be arrested and charged with a crime for simply defending yourself against violent mobs that attack you - violent mobs which will be given carte blanche to attack you.

The other thing not mentioned is the sanctuary movement. Many on the right are now following the example set by the left when declaring their state or their county to be sanctuaries in which federal laws they don’t like will not be enforced. I’m thinking specifically of the 2nd amendment sanctuary jurisdictions. This needs to continue and to grow larger and encompass more things than just unconstitutional federal gun grabs.


36 posted on 01/31/2021 6:38:05 AM PST by FLT-bird
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To: duckman

Exactly...

I moved from Long Island NY to just outside of Rapid City SD.

No more Zillons of people everywhere I go.

Best decision of my life.


37 posted on 01/31/2021 6:39:17 AM PST by HypatiaTaught (president PingPong of the divided states of China)
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To: Sirius Lee

We Gators have known Tallahassee is a chit-hole for a long time. :^)


38 posted on 01/31/2021 6:41:02 AM PST by FLT-bird
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To: Kaslin

“Of course, rural Americans are already living in areas removed from large cities, but geography is only one of the many differences. An even more striking distinction involves political ideology and attitudes on an array of issues like criminal justice.”

In Texas, at least, the key is to live in RED COUNTIES. Just being outside of the cities isn’t enough, since ‘justice’ is administered by county governments. In Texas, the counties that contain Houston and Dallas are now BLUE, when they had been slightly red for almost 20 years. Now everyone living in those counties have to deal with the fact that certain classes of criminals are no longer being prosecuted (to avoid being called a racist, I won’t get specific).

The only real choice is to stay out or get out...while you can, and at least get into a red county. But, in the end, it won’t matter too much, as the Left is not about to leave the red counties alone. Hence my plans to exit the country - it was a fun run, but the people who know better didn’t bother to instill American values in our kids, and so this country will soon not even be livable.


39 posted on 01/31/2021 6:44:05 AM PST by BobL (TheDonald.win is now Patriots.win)
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To: Kaslin

Anyone thinking urban areas will just accept rural and suburban America opting out of supporting democrat run hell holes called cities is delusional. It will require a civil war.


40 posted on 01/31/2021 6:45:14 AM PST by Fzob
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