Posted on 01/25/2021 2:32:18 PM PST by Hojczyk
A Trump third party could provoke a pivotal realignment in American politics. With the support of 46% of registered voters in the new poll, Democrats would reap the benefits of a fractured opposition and entrench themselves as the nation's dominant party — even without majority support.
Among "very conservative" voters — who make up a disproportionately large bloc within the Republican primary electorate — a Trump Patriot Party crushes the GOP 55%-24%.
Should Trump remain in the GOP, his wide lead among these highly motivated voters affords him great leverage to influence the direction of the party by wielding the threat of conservative primary challenges against establishment Republicans ill at ease with the former president's combative brew of conservatism infused with populism and nationalism.
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RINOs are deep staters every bit as much as Democrats, they just chose a different group of voters to fool so they could get into power.
Just as left-leaning voters never really get what they think they will get from their party, neither do Republican voters. They are told one thing but then find, oh well, expediency dear chap, we have to go along to get along.
If RINOs would ever have seen the light, it would have been in this past four years. But they obviously stayed true to their inner corrupt principles.
It’s either a new party or surrender, that’s my view — trying to fix the Republican Party with its current leadership is impossible. If you could get in there and clean house and turn it into something like this new party espouses to be, then fine — but who do you trust within the organization to co-operate?
Take your chances while you still have any freedom of action at all, and get a dedicated anti-globalist party formed and ready to do battle in elections as soon as 2022. Nobody can promise success, but the other way guarantees failure.
Hear hear!!!
Who is this “WE” your talking about, you got a mouse in your pocket?
“WE” as in the Republican VOTER haven’t WON in over (with the exception of PRESIDENT TRUMP) 40 years!
And PRESIDENT TRUMP WAS SABOTAGED BY THE REPUBLICANS!
The REPUGLICAN PARTY tells us who we can vote for and like lemmings were supposed to do it?
Your only doomed to repeat history if you ignore it; were not ignoring, were just sick and tired of being played every 2 and 4 years as has been the case with the REPUGLICRAT PARTY.
Do you see a significant difference between the current republican and democrat office holders?
I DON’T!
Other than the fact that the democrats are able to stick together to steal what they want, I DON’T SEE ANY DIFFERENCE AT ALL!
TIME FOR A NEW PARTY; THE PATRIOT PARTY!
>And whichever one died would absorb the other side’s, so in the end nothing would change except for a long time of completely silenced right.
>Ultimately we vote for policy and not party. The GOP is a globalist party hell bent on de industrializing and selling out the USA. It will NEVER change.
>A MAGA party would be nationalist and pro worker. You are so full of it....
Uh, yeah - I was quoting Shadylake, I think that must have been lost in your translation somewhere. That wasn’t a quote from me. I don’t disagree with you on your statement on a MAGA party however. You can cease with personal attacks unless that’s one of your core convictions
Start with the midterms and local elections. All the senior GOP are RINOs. Better than primarying them is forcing them to form a legislative coalition, despite the butt hurt.
Talk of presidential elections is pointless at this juncture. Biden will not be POTUS in 2024, and certainly not up for reelection.
Make Trump RNC Chair then make the 3% GOP Establishment be the ones to start their own party.
A fine effing start
Not me pardner
New party
We can absorb the worthy
Then milquetoast GOPe can join the Democrats
Is that you PIERRE DELECTO?
Yankees love GOPe more than we Rebels
not to say we didn’t come a running to join from Barry onwards
But GOPe ain’t never walked on water for us like it did y’all
I’ll just remind you that THE TEA PARTY was never organized into a true political party, never had any REAL ELECTED officers or leaders.
The TEA PARTY was more like BRAINDEAD BIDEN described antifa; AN IDEA.
If that happens,bigger donations to primary opponents of gang of 20.
The Republican Party essentially was built from the wreckage of the Whigs. Similar platforms. Lincoln had been a Whig.
the Spirit is telling me to jump in! may He long prosper and preserve the Patriot Party! not a bad name at all.
by faith i feel like a political pilgrim finally coming home.
Agreed.
I think you'd get to something like: Rats - Hi 30's, Patriots - Lo 30's, GOPe - Lo 20's, Other/unsure - 5-10%
But after finishing a distant 3rd, the GOPe would fall apart completely.
The Bayonet Party.
I estimate that small government conservatives are 25% of the consistent voting public [19% voted Perot in 1992, DESPITE all the Media-Uniparty-Deep State dirty tricks, which President Trump has shown us to be real things].
If the GOPe candidate gets to the general, fix bayonets and use your 25-30%.
Sit it out or vote for the Dem.
"To encourage the others"
Yep, moderate Democrats no longer feel at home in the Democrat party, but they still have a lifelong dislike of the Republican party. That’s why I think most of the “Walkaway” dems you see are below a certain age threshold.
When most Republicans don’t even want to be Republicans anymore, we certainly aren’t going to be able to sell it to anybody else.
Perot was heading into the mid thirties when his eyes glazed
over and rolled back in his head. LOL
I wouldn’t be at all surprised if Trump could come up with
something like 40%.
It would be slow at first, but if you get to 30%, a lot of
people start taking it serious.
In the case of three parties going at each other, you only
have to get over a third in some cases to win.
I think the Democrats might lose some folks too. I’m
thinking Trump could get in the 35% range without a lot
of trouble. You never know until you try.
He earned those 75 million votes, and I think those folks
are dying to get another chance to vote for him, to get
their stolen vote back.
We might be astonished how many registered voters he
would pull in.
I always thought they were lying about that 51% approval.
That was bogus and we all knew it.
The RNC and the DNC are in for a big surprise, if he
decides to run.
Folks really do love that guy. He was treated unfairly
for five years. Folks would love to go to bat for him.
And right now, Biden and company are offending nearly
everyone.
Mitch is doing his best to offend the Republicans, and
succeeding.
Avge 8 years
Voters overall 50%@ $10 40%@ $100 10%@ $1000
50,000,000 25,000,000 20,000,000 5,000,000 voters
Donated Dollars over 1 year 250 million 2,billion 5 billion
Donated Dollars over 8years 2 billion 16 billion 40 billion
8 year total 58 BILLION DOLLARS to the GOPe
New Party
Using the same 50 million voter base in one year of donations at the same % split
7.25 BILLION DOLLARS TO FUND NEW PARTY.
Can we stop the doom and gloom and see the reality of how much Electoral Impact a fully funded Party will have, if you see anyone mentioning we would be broke and the party would have no funds, point to this and ask how much will it take, we can double this if they like.
It should be more like a Patriot caucus within the Republican Party. Go through a pre-primary selection process where we can unite against the establishment Romney/McConnell wing of the party. Beat those people out in the primaries and we don’t have to split our votes in the general.
Supporting a third party in the general is a losing strategy unless the party your throw your weight behind is more likely to pull votes from the Democrats.
As I think about it, that two prong strategy sounds really good to me. Support out guys in the primary then bolster a leftist third party candidate in the general. It would make a great way to throw the establishment into chaos.
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