Skip to comments.Florida Is Open, New York Is Closed, And The Latter Has More COVID Deaths
Posted on 12/16/2020 7:00:44 AM PST by SeekAndFind
Thus far in Florida, approximately 20,000 people have died of COVID-19. In Texas, the number stands around 24,000, and in New York, about 35,000.
New York is the smallest of the three, with 19.54 million residents. Then comes Florida, with 21.67 million, before Texas, with 28.7 million residents.
COVID numbers are difficult to trust. Cases are often counted more than once as patients go in and out of the hospital, and some deaths are attributed to COVID that are barely related, if at all.
There’s a perverse incentive to write down “COVID” and get state and federal money, no doubt, but one thing rings clear through all the din: despite larger populations, currently freer peoples, and a media narrative that screams otherwise, there are far, far fewer deaths in Texas and in Florida than in New York.
For months, American media consumers have been treated to news of Florida and Texas’s incoming death spirals. For months after, we were promised those death spirals were just around the bend. The funny thing with COVID, though, is unlike global warming doom science — always 3-12 years away and “too complex” to explain when it inevitably doesn’t happen — COVID doom predictions are checkable in just a few weeks. And COVID doom didn’t happen.
Along Florida’s Gulf Coast, the streets are packed on weekends. In Naples, Florida just one week ago, lights hung majestically from lamp posts, a live Nativity stood in the road, Santa let children sit on his lap, and live bands performed every few blocks. Indoors, the bars were busy, and just after midnight the last pub’s band wound down for the night.
Young parents and some of the elderly wore masks (some old, masked couples dancing to the music), but most people didn’t, and the next morning the beaches and pools were once again bustling. It was the first glimpse of the old normal — truly normal — I’d seen since March. It was wonderful.
Florida’s freedom isn’t some new and dangerous experiment, by the way — the Sunshine State has been open for nearly three months. Yet in New York this past weekend, Gov. Andrew Cuomo ordered indoor dining shut down again.
Since COVID began in earnest in late March, I’ve had the opportunity to travel to 23 states and see all kinds of behaviors and impacts. I’ve been to Massachusetts, Pennsylvania, West Virginia, and Indiana. I’ve traveled to California, Louisiana, Minnesota, and South Dakota. I’ve visited Michigan, Kentucky, Nebraska and Wisconsin. I’ve slept in Missouri, Wyoming, Maryland, and Florida. I’ve taken a look at Virginia, Illinois, Nevada, and Ohio, and I’ve swung through Idaho, Utah, and Kansas.
Most of the people I’ve spoken to have shared a general impression that the whole country was acting the same as they were, and subject to the same rules. The funny thing is in reality, I didn’t even have to travel from Washington, D.C. to Hillsdale, Michigan to remember what sitting at a bar felt like, when just a four-mile walk from my house to Maryland would have scratched that itch.
Just now, blocks away on Capitol Hill’s Lincoln Park, children as young as two are wearing masks while they walk with their parents. Meanwhile across the river in northern Virginia, few if any parents make their young children do the same.
Virginia’s Democrat governor, however, is not in the national media’s cross-hairs for this local break with New York’s COVID culture. Nor is Maryland’s anti-Trump Republican governor. Nor was New Orleans’s mayor, whose French Quarter raged until dawn the October Friday she surprised bar owners with a sudden end to the lockdown.
Why? Because as with global warming science, COVID science has become a political weapon for the left. While their allies escape judgment no matter their sins, political opponents from President Donald Trump to Dr. Scott Atlas, and governors from Florida’s Ron DeSantis to Texas’s Gov. Greg Abbott to South Dakota’s Kristi Noem, are the targets of vicious media attacks on themselves, their states, and their families. Just Friday, a New York Times psychiatrist demanded that doctors who question masks efficacy lose their licenses.
In America today, left-wing politicians obsessed with control are crushing the lives and dreams of their citizens while in the same country just across state lines, young and old celebrate Christmas like we used to without any notable difference in risk and impact. How long can this continue before we all figure it out?
Early in the pandemic, some reports indicated that COVID-19 might have been an intentional weapon against us. Since then, we’ve learned this is very unlikely, although this hasn’t stopped it from being used as a weapon against us: Not by the Chinese, but by our own elites.
Main reason: Leftist DEM policies are utter cancer.
On the contrary - it might be the most effective asymmetrical weapon of mass destruction ever deployed.
‘COVID numbers are difficult to trust.’
That’s an understatement to say the least.
SIT DOWN, SHUT UP, AND DO AS YOUR TOLD!
What if masks and shutdowns make things worse?
New York isn’t
New York was
If you live there, you should move to America
“Very unlikely” according to whom? Some media pundit / talking head? “Experts” like Phuck-shi, who changes his tune more often than most people change their underwear?
People really need to stop trying to use “statistics” as if they know what they are doing.
Comparing Florida to NY is just not an accurate exercise.
NY has its population centered in a couple of small land areas (NYC and then maybe Buffalo.) Outside the city and upstate, the population is sparse and spread out.
In FLA there are some large swaths of popuation—but the remainder of the state is large farmland areas.
Florida is still living outdoors. NY is moving indoors this week with cold temps and snow.
The comparisons continue to be disjointed when you look at age, ethnicity, and modes of transportation.
You might as well compare New York to the moon.
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Carl DeMaio calls for audit of COVID-19 data; only 36 flu cases reported
Posted: December 9, 2020 KUSI Newsroom
SAN DIEGO (KUSI) – COVID-19 cases continue to increase across California, and here in San Diego County, but flu cases remain extremely low in comparison to this time in previous years.
We are well into flu season, but San Diego County’s data for flu infections only shows 36 reported cases so far this year. Carl DeMaio tweeted out this shocking revelation, comparing it to this time in other years saying, “In a typical year we get over 17,073 on average!”
DeMaio explained, “if you are going to use a set of numbers like COVID stats to shut down the economy, to take people’s livelihoods away, then we have to really look closely at what those numbers really mean, and whether those numbers are giving us the right picture.” Continuing, “my concern has been from the get go, that we are relying on numbers from government agencies, that may have a different agenda at stake. We would benefit from having a different set of eyes looking at them, such as an auditor or a citizens review committee. Because again, the decisions being made on these data sets are sweeping, the lockdowns are far reaching in terms of their impact.”
DeMaio then said San Diego County has refused to have any look over or vet our local COVID-19 numbers.
Chairman of Reform California, Carl DeMaio, joined KUSI’s Jason Austell on Good Morning San Diego to explain why he is calling for a “full audit of the COVID-19 data we are seeing reported from our public health system.”
Lots of open air restaurants and bars in Florida... Great place for conservatives to live.
I’m more than pissed about this “Dying OF covid” and “Dying WITH covid”. Using an unreliable test and finding a positive result is like saying someone died “WITH” oxygen in their lungs. This whole hoax is the biggest control scam ever attempted, and so many sheep are perfectly willing to climb into the boxcar because they are told it’s “safe”.
Nonsense, the moon has better management.
This virus is most lethal to old people....and what does Florida have a lot of?
I absolutely agree. Had it been a virus like SARS 1 with Trump as POTUS China would be a ruin today. But this virus is brilliant. Just deadly enough to make people afraid. Highly transmissable to force fearful pols into economy and morale killing shutdowns. A fatality rate high enough to create headlines but nowhere near high enough to burn itself out, so it lingers and re-emerge after the lockdowns. This weapon is brilliant. And using it got rid of the one enemy they feared most, President Trump.
Not according to our daily snoozepaper. Every day they post all the crazy Covid numbers on the front page across the top. I only see these newspapers when I am out and about because I canceled my subscription long long ago. They have my elderly mother so terrified that she won’t even leave the house. But that’s ok. Wouldn’t want her spreading the Rona, right? 🙄
And it was deployed by Democrats in Congress! China was just the delivery driver
Population density is one factor;
New York - 161/sq mi; population 19.5 million; death rate .001795
Florida - 141/sq mi; population 21.5 million; death rate .00093
Texas 40/sq mi; population 29 million; death rate .000824
And you can see population density reflected in those states largest cities, as well.
New York City - 28,211/sq mi
Mt Vernon Ny - 15,568/sq mi
Hempstead Ny - 15,096/sq mi
Yonkers NY - 11,150/sq mi
New Rochelle Ny - 7,687/sq mi
Buffalo Ny - 6,362/sq mi
Schenectady Ny - 6,022/sq mi
White Plains Ny - 5,961/sq mi
Rochester Ny - 5,838/sq mi
Syracuse Ny - 5,726/sq mi
Albany Ny - 4,587/sq mi
New York clearly has a high % of its population packed into a small number of large cities.
Miami Fl - 12,645/sq mi (1/2 the density of New York’s most dense city)
Hialeah Fl - 11,020/sq mi
Lauderhill Fl - 8.397/sq mi
North Miami Fl - 7,389/sq mi
Margate Fl - 6,539/sq mi
Miami Gardens Fl - 6,202/sq mi
Tamarac Fl - 5,611/sq mi
Hollywood Fl - 5,553/sq mi
Coral Springs Fl - 5,467/sq mi
Sunrise Fl - 5,179/sq mi
Ft. Lauderdale Fl - 5,141/sq mi
Pembroke Pines Fl - 5,090/sq mi
Coconut Creek Fl - 5,013/sq mi
Miramar Fl - 4.690/sq mi
Boynton Beach Fl - 4,673/sq mi
Pompano Beach Fl - 4,558/sq mi
Homestead Fl - 4,491/sq mi
Clearwater Fl - 4,474/sq mi
Largo Fl - 4,417/sq mi
Plantation Fl - 4,264/sq mi
Delray Beach Fl - 4,261/sq mi
St Petersberg fl - 4,227/sq mi
Doral Fl - 4,175/sq mi
Coral Gables Fl - 3,933/sq mi
Bradenton Fl - 3,927/sq mi
Sarasota Fl - 3,862/sq mi
Phinellas Park Fl - 3,362/sq mi
Tampa Fl - 3,326/sq mi
Boca Raton Fl - 3,277/sq mi
Kissimmee Fl - 3,274/sq mi
Orlando Fl - 2,707/sq mi
Jacksonville Fl - 1,179/sq mi
GArland Tx - 4,116/sq mi (1/3 the density of Florida’s most dense city)
Arlington Tx - 4,096/sq mi
Plano Tx - 3,996/sq mi
Richardson Tx - 3,969/sq mi
Dallas Tx - 3,870/sq mi
Houston Tx - 3,842/sq mi
North Rihcland Hills Tx - 3,841/sq mi
Allen Tx - 3,772/sq mi
Carrollton Tx - 3,674/sq mi
Pasadena Tx - 3,586/sq mi
Round Rock Tx - 3,544/sq mi
Euless Tx - 3,379/sq mi
Pharr Tx - 3,301/sq mi
San Antonio Tx - 3,238/sq mi
Austin Tx - 3,182/sq mi
Mequite Tx - 3,123/sq mi
Rowlett Tx - 3,117sq mi
Cedar Patk Tx - 3,016/sq mi
Just between Texas and Florida you can see how Florida has many more cities with population densities above most of Texas’ cities.
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