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Pentagon: China’s Military Has Begun To Surpass The United States’s
The Federalist ^ | 09/08/2020 | Sumantra Maitra

Posted on 09/08/2020 7:45:20 AM PDT by SeekAndFind

A new Pentagon paper paints a grim picture of the emerging great power rivalry in Asia and suggests that a toe-to-toe balancing with China is now out of the question. The document titled “Military and Security developments in the People’s Republic of China” charts where China has already far surpassed the United States.

For example, by the end of 2019, China possessed the world’s largest standing ground force and leading maritime militia. China has now the world’s largest navy, already with around a 50-ship advantage over America, a gap that is steadily increasing in a competition that is at a much, much higher pace than the Anglo-German naval race of the 1900s.

The Chinese strategy is mass production and overwhelming attack, so even when Chinese quality is not a match for Western navies, China will simply achieve enough tonnage and numbers to overwhelm any near-peer force. China also has the world’s largest coast guard, and dwarves the air-forces of any Indo-Pacific power.

China has the world’s largest sub-strategic missile forces, with “more ballistic missile testing and training launches ‘than the rest of the world combined.’” China has one of the world’s largest and most sophisticated surface-to-air missile forces, which forms a part of an integrated air defense architecture, covering the entire coastline.

This, to put it mildly, throws into tailspin any idea of a toe-to-toe U.S. balancing with China. While a great power rivalry with China is inevitable and there’s a bipartisan consensus about the rise of China as a rival, given the laws of international relations, this rivalry is also not going to be like our forefathers’ Cold War. China is integrated on a much larger scale than the USSR was, and is not an autarkic power.

That means China can use market forces to wreck the West. In the words of Lenin, they’ll buy the rope from the capitalists, then hang them with it. China is also a much larger giant compared to the United States. In the late 1940s or the early ‘90s, U.S. global GDP share was overwhelmingly over that of all the other rivals. That is simply not the case anymore, with Chinese production and manufacturing coupled with an unsurpassable domestic labor force meaning China can outspend, outproduce, and outmatch any competitor, something the USSR never managed.

China is also not an ideological foe, and unlike the USSR, is not seeking to spread communism by force. That gives China an advantage in places like Africa. China is happy to simply do business and sell arms and push American influence away, while Americans are predisposed to try and shape the internal politics of places we do not like.

China will have no issues with LGBT discrimination in a Chinese-allied state in Africa, whereas the United States tries to impose our social values, in even allied countries like Hungary and Poland. It’s like the Cold War in reverse: the Soviets wanted to impose their social and political values, and the rest of the world increasingly chose to go the other way.

Elbridge Colby and Robert Kaplan wrote in their latest essay that seeing the rivalry of China from an ideological angle will likely stunt the American response because that starting point is flawed. The simple reality is that an ideological struggle automatically assumes that if the ideology is changed, through trade or commerce, or spreading values, then the rivalry is bound to go away.

“To conceive of the competition as fundamentally ideological is also deceptive. Doing so risks indulging the chimerical hope that once liberal democracy has spread throughout the world, the strategic competition will end and the United States can peacefully collaborate with like-minded states in a secure globe,” Colby and Kaplan write.

Unfortunately, great power rivalry historically means that great powers with similar ideologies also clash. The history of Europe is of course evident, but often overlooked is that communist China and the USSR were also rivals. Likewise, if miraculously China tomorrow turns into a democracy, even then the rivalry would continue.

“China’s rise to superpower status will exert a pull toward autocracy. China’s fusion of authoritarian capitalism and digital surveillance may prove more durable and attractive than Marxism,” Colby and Kaplan write, adding that the “very scale of China’s economy, population, and landmass and its consequent power would cause profound concern for U.S. policymakers even if the country were a democracy. Seeing this competition as primarily ideological will misconstrue its nature—with potentially catastrophic results.”

China’s rise historically mirrors another great power’s rise, that of the United States, which after the Monroe Doctrine and hegemony in the Western Hemisphere turned to slowly build up as other powers fought, bled, and withered away. China also thinks its time is finally here, as the United States is forced to concentrate elsewhere.

It is simple mathematics. Consider the 11 American carrier groups spread out across the oceans. Chinese carrier groups will number approximately six by the mid-2040s, but if the United States is still bogged down elsewhere, China will concentrate its entire navy in Asia, dwarfing the combined might of the United States, Australia, India, and Japan. An eye-to-eye brinkmanship will bankrupt the West, and destroy its already fragile social contract, especially with universities and media acting as the enemy within.

There is no way this is sustainable in the long run. America is simply an overburdened titan, similar to the British Empire after World War I. Added to that, the biggest challenges facing the United States are within.

This brings forward a few key questions. What are the regional priorities of U.S. foreign policy? If the United States is falling behind with a defense budget four times that of China, then simply adding cash will not help. A change in strategy is required.

A realist foreign policy, therefore, dictates an immediate end to humanitarian wars, nation-building, North Atlantic Treaty Organization expansion, and freeriding, and Middle Eastern wars. Domestic policy must accordingly defund all garbage research like gender studies, and spend those wasted billions in rebuilding a manufacturing worker base.

It would also mean an FBI task force to crack down on anarchists and other domestic subversive forces and propaganda. It would mean pushing big tech to choose a side, between the U.S. government or China. Finally, it would mean creating scenarios that bog China down in warfare and bleed itself dry.

As I wrote recently, to let an adversary bleed itself dry in an ungovernable stretch of land with negligible strategic importance is an ancient, classical, and often underrated grand strategy. Britain and America did it with Joseph Stalin and Adolf Hitler for a whole year before D-Day; and the USSR did it with the United States in Vietnam, paid back with interest in Afghanistan in an exact reverse play.

In the future, if China ever gets in a conflict with Taiwan or Vietnam, or even India, a prudent policy would be to sell arms without getting involved. Realism is admittedly a hard sell in America, given constantly hyper-emotional public opinion, but there’s a rational, amoral way to restore a balance of power and stop the rise of China.

China is an empire, and the moment it acts imperial, it will invite a backlash, which has bankrupted and bled every empire in history. One needs to allow that to happen. The question is, as always, if American policymakers are prudential enough to follow through.


Sumantra Maitra is a doctoral researcher at the University of Nottingham, UK, and a senior contributor to The Federalist. His research is in great power-politics and neorealism. You can find him on Twitter @MrMaitra.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: belongsinbloggers; bloggers; chicompropaganda; china; military; pentagon; redchina; worldwar3
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To: fatman6502002

What, was fatDOUCHEBAG6502002 taken?


61 posted on 09/08/2020 9:13:10 AM PDT by Captainpaintball
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To: Mariner
RE: When people read this report from the Pentagon, they would do well to realize it’s budget time.

How much more does the Pentagon need that it doesn't already have? You can add up the military budgets of the other top 10 countries and they don't even equal that of the USA...

62 posted on 09/08/2020 9:14:55 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: setter

“Our own pentagon said China is 25 years ahead of us in AI weapons development”

Bullshit.


63 posted on 09/08/2020 9:17:18 AM PDT by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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To: fatman6502002

You might want to review the Chinese economy vs the Soviet economy. Very different ballgame now that we have outsourced our factories and technology to China.


64 posted on 09/08/2020 9:17:58 AM PDT by DesertRhino (Dog is man's best friend, and moslems hate dogs. Add that up. ....)
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To: Captainpaintball

Go back to your parents basement where morons like you belong.


65 posted on 09/08/2020 9:18:14 AM PDT by fatman6502002 ((The Team The Team The Team - Bo Schembechler circa 1969))
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To: DesertRhino
Very different ballgame now that we globalist Free Traitors™ have outsourced our factories and technology to China.

Fixed it.

66 posted on 09/08/2020 9:19:34 AM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn...)
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To: Wonder Warthog

India is more than capable of shutting off China’s oil. Without our help. One wonders why China is trying so hard to pi$ off India and all China’s other neighbors.


67 posted on 09/08/2020 9:23:41 AM PDT by Seruzawa (TANSTAAFL!)
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To: DesertRhino

Don’t need to. One of the aspects of my job is working with the analysts that actually analyze the telemetry from chinese platforms and weapons, all of them say chinese military is crap too, that their actual capabilities are far less than advertised by china and their bought and paid for western journals and fake journalists. The difference between my opinion and yours is that mine is informed by true facts, not stupid bullshit read from magazines and written by people with an agenda whom are likely collecting thousands of $ for being an agent of influence for the CCP.


68 posted on 09/08/2020 9:27:40 AM PDT by fatman6502002 ((The Team The Team The Team - Bo Schembechler circa 1969))
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To: Seruzawa

China imports nearly 3/4 of its oil.

Control the Strait of Malacca and you cut off over half their oil. It’s a grim reality for the fascists in Beijing.

https://oilprice.com/Latest-Energy-News/World-News/Chinas-Oil-Import-Dependence-Grows-To-734-In-H1-2020.html


69 posted on 09/08/2020 9:32:55 AM PDT by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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To: CodeToad
>>They could ten fold the size of their Navy and still have too small a force to send anywhere.<<

Man...I'm not sure about that. A sub launched missile with multiple warheads aimed at various cities simultaneously could potentially bring war to our shores.

Remember, the Chi-coms have stolen the best technology in the world...from the U.S.

https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/mystery-missile-launched-missile-off-california-coast/story?id=12097155

70 posted on 09/08/2020 9:38:19 AM PDT by servantboy777
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To: fatman6502002
>>Chinese military platforms, hardware and weapons are total shit. Believe whatever you want but their planes ships tanks and the rest are total crap.<<

Not being snarky, but how is it that you know this with such certainty? I'm thinking, the Chi-coms obtained allot of their military tech from Chinese spys...stolen from the U.S..

71 posted on 09/08/2020 9:41:26 AM PDT by servantboy777
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To: fatman6502002

I just checked...FatANGRYDOUCHEBAG6502002 is available as a username. I think that is the most accurate.

If we went to war today... we would lose. They would fight assymetrically, half our brass and 60% of Congress and 98% of our media would be on their side. China would know where, when and how ws would atta knor defend. They have plans for literally EVERYTHING, thanks to Cisco, from the f35 to the w88, and they have 100000s of sabetours here ready to destroy roads trains and power stations, poison the food and water supplies, and just go around shooting people. Then there are the EMPs in the two NK satellites currtntly in orbit above the US at all times.

Stock up on plenty of food and water, fatboy.


72 posted on 09/08/2020 9:41:27 AM PDT by Captainpaintball
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To: fatman6502002

.........well, I surely fault all the women involved. What you say happened was/is predictable and for that reason and countless others they should not have been in this job or even on the ship in my opinion.

That said, I spent 7 years in the Navy and 2 were full time. Based upon that experience, I have no doubt that the cover up began within two minutes after impact and continues to this day. The Fitz is back on duty (after 3 years!) but the same inability to hold people accountable frustrates the Navy in truly being a fighting force the American people can have confidence in. I say again, the Chicom’s reaction to an incident like the one we are discussing would be swift and fierce. With NO FEAR of REAL punishment, key personnel will continue to fail the Navy and the American people.........in my opinion.


73 posted on 09/08/2020 9:46:02 AM PDT by Cen-Tejas
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To: Captainpaintball

You, mr. Chinese agent of influence are totally full of shit. You know nothing of what you talk about. You’re an ignoramous when it comes to military capabilities. You just flap your gums believing you know something. Your thought pattern is so much like a typical progressive it might be that you’re another of the far leftist trolls that take up so much space here. You really should let people who actually work in the military world tell you what is happening rather than making stupid posts.


74 posted on 09/08/2020 9:49:07 AM PDT by fatman6502002 ((The Team The Team The Team - Bo Schembechler circa 1969))
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To: Captainpaintball; fatman6502002

I fat fingered... the confusing part should read “we would attack and defend”


75 posted on 09/08/2020 9:53:10 AM PDT by Captainpaintball
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To: fatman6502002

Yeah sure, whatever sport. If that was your job, you wouldn’t spout off about it here.

You get that information off of your crappy Iphone? In any case, your song has been repeated too many times.
Everyone in 1940 knows that Jap pilots all have bad eyesight, their planes leak oil, and they are barely able to manage biplanes. All they could do is copy things...


76 posted on 09/08/2020 9:57:19 AM PDT by DesertRhino (Dog is man's best friend, and moslems hate dogs. Add that up. ....)
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To: fatman6502002

Doesn’t work well against an enemy that cares about quality, but unfortunately we don’t seem to care much about quality anymore.


77 posted on 09/08/2020 9:57:38 AM PDT by Boogieman
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To: DesertRhino

Not to worry, never gave up any real details of my job and certainly would never give up classified info on a site with so many like you whom are chinese/marxist Democrat agents of influence. After all I know the rules that go along with the handling of secret and TS info. So go ahead and believe your fantasies, because that’s all you got dummy. Leave the deep thinking to people who’ve been there and done that since before you were just a dribble on your daddy’s little pecker.


78 posted on 09/08/2020 10:30:37 AM PDT by fatman6502002 ((The Team The Team The Team - Bo Schembechler circa 1969))
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To: DesertRhino

Not to worry, never gave up any real details of my job and certainly would never give up classified info on a site with so many like you whom are chinese/marxist Democrat agents of influence. After all I know the rules that go along with the handling of secret and TS info. So go ahead and believe your fantasies, because that’s all you got dummy. Leave the deep thinking to people who’ve been there and done that since before you were just a dribble on your daddy’s little pecker.


79 posted on 09/08/2020 10:30:39 AM PDT by fatman6502002 ((The Team The Team The Team - Bo Schembechler circa 1969))
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To: Boogieman

Depends upon whom and what your talking about.


80 posted on 09/08/2020 10:31:42 AM PDT by fatman6502002 ((The Team The Team The Team - Bo Schembechler circa 1969))
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