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Pentagon: China’s Military Has Begun To Surpass The United States’s
The Federalist ^ | 09/08/2020 | Sumantra Maitra

Posted on 09/08/2020 7:45:20 AM PDT by SeekAndFind

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To: Levy78

........for those of us that have stood watch on a destroyer in heavily trafficked waters at night we KNOW the insanity of this happening. A pair of binoculars, particularly night vision binoculars, in the hands of a person other than Ray Charles, and who has a normally functioning brain and can walk over to the OOD (if equipment’s not working) and say “Sir (or Maam), there’s a big ship coming right for us”.... could have prevented this fatal accident.

None of these women were paying attention and doing their jobs and they should have been prosecuted along side many male officers above them and we still don’t know the whole truth and nothing but the truth because it would likely be quite damming of the Navy. All else is just dismaying, eye rolling, bullshit!


41 posted on 09/08/2020 8:45:45 AM PDT by Cen-Tejas
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To: Leaning Right

A German general in the early days of Barbarossa, saw the T-34 for the first time, and remarked, “If the Soviets start mass producing these things, we will lose the war.”


42 posted on 09/08/2020 8:45:52 AM PDT by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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To: Liz

Do I guess it’s true. We’re sunk because Liz believe that our military cannot stand up to China’s. Again, anyone who believes as Liz does is either a Chinese/biden agent of influence troll, or they’re just totally ignorant of what they’re speaking of.


43 posted on 09/08/2020 8:46:28 AM PDT by fatman6502002 ((The Team The Team The Team - Bo Schembechler circa 1969))
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To: Levy78

the pentagon has been busy attacking the ELECTED PRESIDENT
... and helping the coverup of the BUSH/SorosTHEIR
attack on their/our own pentagon.

some of these bastards should
have been hung for treason and sedition last year.


44 posted on 09/08/2020 8:46:39 AM PDT by Diogenesis ("when a crime is unpunished, the world is unbalanced")
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To: SeekAndFind

All the US needs do is shut down the flow of oil from the midEast to China, and China is done. The US is self-sufficient and an exporter of energy.


45 posted on 09/08/2020 8:47:47 AM PDT by Wonder Warthog (No Longer Tolerating Trolls!)
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Am i in before the “no worries” crowd of fools downplays china’s threatand makes stupid jokes about how their planes will fall apart and how their boats will sink?


46 posted on 09/08/2020 8:48:47 AM PDT by Captainpaintball
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To: Cen-Tejas

The problem was thus, the female in CIC and the female OOD were not on speaking terms because the we’re both dating the same guy. The OOD female barred her bridge watch from communicating with the CIC watch standers. That’s what happened, of course the navy will not allow that to be said but having talked to people in the know, this what all of them are saying so take it for what it’s worth.


47 posted on 09/08/2020 8:51:30 AM PDT by fatman6502002 ((The Team The Team The Team - Bo Schembechler circa 1969))
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To: SeekAndFind

Of course, this was/is inevitable.

While we wasted $7 Trillion on stupid NeoCon wars, China didn’t squander its treasure.

Pushing Russia towards China is suicidal & yet that’s what our idiots in charge are doing.


48 posted on 09/08/2020 8:51:49 AM PDT by Trumpisourlastchance
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To: Little Ray

And Stalin was able to use the massive loss of Soviet soldiers as a bargaining chip at Yalta and Potsdam.


49 posted on 09/08/2020 8:53:06 AM PDT by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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To: Captainpaintball

Chinese military platforms, hardware and weapons are total shit. Believe whatever you want but their planes ships tanks and the rest are total crap.


50 posted on 09/08/2020 8:54:06 AM PDT by fatman6502002 ((The Team The Team The Team - Bo Schembechler circa 1969))
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To: Leaning Right

I went to the U.S.S.R. as a tourist, in 1976. The story at that time was that The Mighty Soviets had reached parity with us, and soon, would overrun Europe. When I got there, they couldn’t put decent food on our table, the phones were awful, the average Ivan could not afford a car, theree generations to an apartment, the flagship department store had people lined up to buy goods that none of us Americans wanted.

I realize the Red Chinese are a threat, and better funded than Moscow could have dreamed of, but I remain skeptical of the claims, offered here. Thank you.


51 posted on 09/08/2020 8:54:51 AM PDT by jttpwalsh
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To: Trumpisourlastchance

I think you don’t know diddly about the subject matter. I also think you’re an imposter along with a few other far leftist trolls who always come here to spread BS.


52 posted on 09/08/2020 8:56:16 AM PDT by fatman6502002 ((The Team The Team The Team - Bo Schembechler circa 1969))
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To: Captainpaintball

You are the fool. One needs only look at your name to know that.


53 posted on 09/08/2020 8:57:34 AM PDT by fatman6502002 ((The Team The Team The Team - Bo Schembechler circa 1969))
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To: ought-six

“Hitler had the quality. Stalin had the quantity. Moscow never fell. But Berlin did.”

That’s because the paper-hanging corporal thought Germany was invincible, and greatly over-extended. Hitler’s biggest mistake in WWII was attacking the Soviet Union when he did; had he kept the pressure on Britain he likely would have only had to face a one-front war later against USSR, as Britain would probably have sought terms. Hell, the outnumbered Finns bloodied the Soviets quite effectively. Hitler’s generals advised against invading the USSR in 1941, especially in June, 1941; they projected 1943 at the earliest.
+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

Correct answer. 2 front war by Germany was it’s downfall. Even so, they had Russia on the ropes but then winter came and the supply lines ceased to supply. Piss poor planning. Germany would have destroyed Russia in a straight up war.


54 posted on 09/08/2020 8:58:32 AM PDT by mund1011
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To: Leaning Right

Yes, the Tiger was over-engineered, and the T-34 was a formidable weapon. But Russia’s greatest strength (asset) was its vastness, and General Winter.

As for Stalin and his generals, he executed much of the officer corps in the 1930s, which left him with political hacks to command the military. Luckily for Stalin and the USSR, he missed taking out Zhukov.


55 posted on 09/08/2020 8:59:12 AM PDT by ought-six (Multiculturalism is national suicide, and political correctness is the cyanide capsule.)
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To: dfwgator

Of course that was said in WW2, tech has changed a lot since then which has also changed the calculus of making such a statement today. Though I doubt people who’ve not served would understand what I’m saying.


56 posted on 09/08/2020 9:01:44 AM PDT by fatman6502002 ((The Team The Team The Team - Bo Schembechler circa 1969))
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To: jttpwalsh

Interesting post yours. Back during the Cold War someone in the West remarked that the Soviet Union was a third-world nation with a first-world military. I guess there was some truth to that.

And perhaps China is headed that way today.


57 posted on 09/08/2020 9:03:45 AM PDT by Leaning Right (I have already previewed or do not wish to preview this composition.)
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To: SeekAndFind

By the 2040’s China will be back in the stone age. Trump is doing to them what Reagan did to Russia. China’s economy is on a downward spiral not likely to be reversed. There is only one super power in the world and it’s the USA.


58 posted on 09/08/2020 9:05:59 AM PDT by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped)
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To: SeekAndFind

When people read this report from the Pentagon, they would do well to realize it’s budget time.

They produce something similar every year or two. And have ever since the first Cold War.

The Pentagon, and the Chinese equivalent know that any US-China engagement would be disastrous for the Chinese.

This being particularly egregious: “and dwarves the air-forces of any Indo-Pacific power.”

China has a total of approx 3,000 military aircraft. The US Navy alone has nearly 4,000 of a total force of 14,000.

And don’t even get me going on the proven quality advantage of ALL US equipment.


59 posted on 09/08/2020 9:11:32 AM PDT by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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To: Leaning Right

Thanks. They certainly offered that image, to be sure !


60 posted on 09/08/2020 9:12:04 AM PDT by jttpwalsh
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