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Pentagon: China’s Military Has Begun To Surpass The United States’s
The Federalist ^ | 09/08/2020 | Sumantra Maitra

Posted on 09/08/2020 7:45:20 AM PDT by SeekAndFind

A new Pentagon paper paints a grim picture of the emerging great power rivalry in Asia and suggests that a toe-to-toe balancing with China is now out of the question. The document titled “Military and Security developments in the People’s Republic of China” charts where China has already far surpassed the United States.

For example, by the end of 2019, China possessed the world’s largest standing ground force and leading maritime militia. China has now the world’s largest navy, already with around a 50-ship advantage over America, a gap that is steadily increasing in a competition that is at a much, much higher pace than the Anglo-German naval race of the 1900s.

The Chinese strategy is mass production and overwhelming attack, so even when Chinese quality is not a match for Western navies, China will simply achieve enough tonnage and numbers to overwhelm any near-peer force. China also has the world’s largest coast guard, and dwarves the air-forces of any Indo-Pacific power.

China has the world’s largest sub-strategic missile forces, with “more ballistic missile testing and training launches ‘than the rest of the world combined.’” China has one of the world’s largest and most sophisticated surface-to-air missile forces, which forms a part of an integrated air defense architecture, covering the entire coastline.

This, to put it mildly, throws into tailspin any idea of a toe-to-toe U.S. balancing with China. While a great power rivalry with China is inevitable and there’s a bipartisan consensus about the rise of China as a rival, given the laws of international relations, this rivalry is also not going to be like our forefathers’ Cold War. China is integrated on a much larger scale than the USSR was, and is not an autarkic power.

That means China can use market forces to wreck the West. In the words of Lenin, they’ll buy the rope from the capitalists, then hang them with it. China is also a much larger giant compared to the United States. In the late 1940s or the early ‘90s, U.S. global GDP share was overwhelmingly over that of all the other rivals. That is simply not the case anymore, with Chinese production and manufacturing coupled with an unsurpassable domestic labor force meaning China can outspend, outproduce, and outmatch any competitor, something the USSR never managed.

China is also not an ideological foe, and unlike the USSR, is not seeking to spread communism by force. That gives China an advantage in places like Africa. China is happy to simply do business and sell arms and push American influence away, while Americans are predisposed to try and shape the internal politics of places we do not like.

China will have no issues with LGBT discrimination in a Chinese-allied state in Africa, whereas the United States tries to impose our social values, in even allied countries like Hungary and Poland. It’s like the Cold War in reverse: the Soviets wanted to impose their social and political values, and the rest of the world increasingly chose to go the other way.

Elbridge Colby and Robert Kaplan wrote in their latest essay that seeing the rivalry of China from an ideological angle will likely stunt the American response because that starting point is flawed. The simple reality is that an ideological struggle automatically assumes that if the ideology is changed, through trade or commerce, or spreading values, then the rivalry is bound to go away.

“To conceive of the competition as fundamentally ideological is also deceptive. Doing so risks indulging the chimerical hope that once liberal democracy has spread throughout the world, the strategic competition will end and the United States can peacefully collaborate with like-minded states in a secure globe,” Colby and Kaplan write.

Unfortunately, great power rivalry historically means that great powers with similar ideologies also clash. The history of Europe is of course evident, but often overlooked is that communist China and the USSR were also rivals. Likewise, if miraculously China tomorrow turns into a democracy, even then the rivalry would continue.

“China’s rise to superpower status will exert a pull toward autocracy. China’s fusion of authoritarian capitalism and digital surveillance may prove more durable and attractive than Marxism,” Colby and Kaplan write, adding that the “very scale of China’s economy, population, and landmass and its consequent power would cause profound concern for U.S. policymakers even if the country were a democracy. Seeing this competition as primarily ideological will misconstrue its nature—with potentially catastrophic results.”

China’s rise historically mirrors another great power’s rise, that of the United States, which after the Monroe Doctrine and hegemony in the Western Hemisphere turned to slowly build up as other powers fought, bled, and withered away. China also thinks its time is finally here, as the United States is forced to concentrate elsewhere.

It is simple mathematics. Consider the 11 American carrier groups spread out across the oceans. Chinese carrier groups will number approximately six by the mid-2040s, but if the United States is still bogged down elsewhere, China will concentrate its entire navy in Asia, dwarfing the combined might of the United States, Australia, India, and Japan. An eye-to-eye brinkmanship will bankrupt the West, and destroy its already fragile social contract, especially with universities and media acting as the enemy within.

There is no way this is sustainable in the long run. America is simply an overburdened titan, similar to the British Empire after World War I. Added to that, the biggest challenges facing the United States are within.

This brings forward a few key questions. What are the regional priorities of U.S. foreign policy? If the United States is falling behind with a defense budget four times that of China, then simply adding cash will not help. A change in strategy is required.

A realist foreign policy, therefore, dictates an immediate end to humanitarian wars, nation-building, North Atlantic Treaty Organization expansion, and freeriding, and Middle Eastern wars. Domestic policy must accordingly defund all garbage research like gender studies, and spend those wasted billions in rebuilding a manufacturing worker base.

It would also mean an FBI task force to crack down on anarchists and other domestic subversive forces and propaganda. It would mean pushing big tech to choose a side, between the U.S. government or China. Finally, it would mean creating scenarios that bog China down in warfare and bleed itself dry.

As I wrote recently, to let an adversary bleed itself dry in an ungovernable stretch of land with negligible strategic importance is an ancient, classical, and often underrated grand strategy. Britain and America did it with Joseph Stalin and Adolf Hitler for a whole year before D-Day; and the USSR did it with the United States in Vietnam, paid back with interest in Afghanistan in an exact reverse play.

In the future, if China ever gets in a conflict with Taiwan or Vietnam, or even India, a prudent policy would be to sell arms without getting involved. Realism is admittedly a hard sell in America, given constantly hyper-emotional public opinion, but there’s a rational, amoral way to restore a balance of power and stop the rise of China.

China is an empire, and the moment it acts imperial, it will invite a backlash, which has bankrupted and bled every empire in history. One needs to allow that to happen. The question is, as always, if American policymakers are prudential enough to follow through.


Sumantra Maitra is a doctoral researcher at the University of Nottingham, UK, and a senior contributor to The Federalist. His research is in great power-politics and neorealism. You can find him on Twitter @MrMaitra.


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To: CodeToad

“China is land locked.”

No, it’s not: It has 9,000 miles of coastline.

“They have to rely on ocean travel to go attack anyone.”

No, they don’t. China has direct land access to: South Korea (via North Korea); Russia; Mongolia; the “’Stans” to the west; India; Nepal; Myanmar; Laos; Vietnam. But to attack anything to the east they’d need a hell of a lot of fleets.


21 posted on 09/08/2020 8:07:16 AM PDT by ought-six (Multiculturalism is national suicide, and political correctness is the cyanide capsule.)
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To: volunbeer

RE: . Also consider that Japan (no slouch economically) is increasing their defense spending and capability in response to the threat of China.

And don’t forget India, which is overtaking China population wise and is beefing up her military because of a border dispute with China that threatens to escalate if cooler heads do not prevail.

Then there’s Vietnam, which has a dispute with China for control over islands in the South China sea, which China has continually provoked. They had a war with China just 3 decades ago and anticipate another one.

And Australia is beefing up her military in suspicion of China as well after the Covid-19 crisis and China’s takeover of Hongkong.

Of course, Taiwan has always been prepared for a CCP invasion.


22 posted on 09/08/2020 8:17:16 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

Based upon the comments I see FR still has plenty of China bootlickers.

Military folks who have been retired for 25 years who don’t know squat about the modern Chinese military.

Our own pentagon said China is 25 years ahead of us in AI weapons development and spends 30 times what we do in this area.


23 posted on 09/08/2020 8:17:45 AM PDT by setter
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To: SeekAndFind
if the United States is still bogged down elsewhere, China will concentrate its entire navy in Asia, dwarfing the combined might of the United States, Australia, India, and Japan.

This sounds like China's navy will be pinned down in Asia, facing a growing naval presence by India while Japan and South Korea wake up and re-arm. Meanwhile the US will continue to dominate the world's oceans.
24 posted on 09/08/2020 8:18:07 AM PDT by AnotherUnixGeek
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To: Little Ray

> “Quantity has a Quality all of its own.” <

Yes, indeed. Hitler had the quality. Stalin had the quantity. Moscow never fell. But Berlin did.


25 posted on 09/08/2020 8:19:19 AM PDT by Leaning Right (I have already previewed or do not wish to preview this composition.)
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To: Levy78

...............and, if an OOD (Officer of the Deck) ran one of the ChiCom’s beautiful new destroyers into a freighter, the OOD and the TOC and probably all officers on the ship would have been summarily shot.

I think the woman OOD and the woman TOC (Tactical Operations Commander) (on the US ship) in the Fitzgerald incident got “a letter of censure” put in their file. To our PC Navy’s way of thinking these days, or the Nancy Pelosi way, “a letter” in her file covered the 1.8 billion dollar Warship and the dead sailors.

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Jun 20, 2018 · Look it up: The OOD was Sarah Coppock, Tactical Action Officer was Natalie Combs. . . . When I noticed last year that they were doing all they could to keep the OOD’s name out of the headlines, I speculated to my son that it was a she. Turns out all the key people (except one officer in the CIC) were female!


26 posted on 09/08/2020 8:20:32 AM PDT by Cen-Tejas
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To: datura

“We need to stop feeding them, and maintain our advantages in order to deter them. The CCP will fail from within if we take away their economy.”

Very true.

In retrospect, one of the stupidest moves in recent history was welcoming China into the WTO.


27 posted on 09/08/2020 8:22:02 AM PDT by ought-six (Multiculturalism is national suicide, and political correctness is the cyanide capsule.)
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To: SeekAndFind

I have said it on several threads before, but I truly believe Trump will forge a real military alliance with teeth in Asia in his second term.

In one fell stroke he may counter China’s militaristic behavior even as he continues to withdraw the US from China’s economy.


28 posted on 09/08/2020 8:24:43 AM PDT by volunbeer (Find the truth and accept it - anything else is delusional)
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To: Little Ray

Seriously. You really think the soviet union’s numbers over quality was a good/winning strategy? Please explain.


29 posted on 09/08/2020 8:28:18 AM PDT by fatman6502002 ((The Team The Team The Team - Bo Schembechler circa 1969))
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To: Cen-Tejas

...............and, if an OOD (Officer of the Deck) ran one of the ChiCom’s beautiful new destroyers into a freighter, the OOD and the TOC and probably all officers on the ship would have been summarily shot.

I think the woman OOD and the woman TOC (Tactical Operations Commander) (on the US ship) in the Fitzgerald incident got “a letter of censure” put in their file. To our PC Navy’s way of thinking these days, or the Nancy Pelosi way, “a letter” in her file covered the 1.8 billion dollar Warship and the dead sailors.

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Jun 20, 2018 · Look it up: The OOD was Sarah Coppock, Tactical Action Officer was Natalie Combs. . . . When I noticed last year that they were doing all they could to keep the OOD’s name out of the headlines, I speculated to my son that it was a she. Turns out all the key people (except one officer in the CIC) were female!


wow! I didn’t know they were females... pathetic what our military has become.


30 posted on 09/08/2020 8:32:03 AM PDT by Levy78
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To: fatman6502002

Because it worked.
The USSR destroyed most of the Wehrmacht and reached Berlin before we got anywhere close.
They took huge casualties doing so, but so what?


31 posted on 09/08/2020 8:32:07 AM PDT by Little Ray (Freedom Before Security! (Ironic, huh?))
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To: Leaning Right

“Hitler had the quality. Stalin had the quantity. Moscow never fell. But Berlin did.”

That’s because the paper-hanging corporal thought Germany was invincible, and greatly over-extended. Hitler’s biggest mistake in WWII was attacking the Soviet Union when he did; had he kept the pressure on Britain he likely would have only had to face a one-front war later against USSR, as Britain would probably have sought terms. Hell, the outnumbered Finns bloodied the Soviets quite effectively. Hitler’s generals advised against invading the USSR in 1941, especially in June, 1941; they projected 1943 at the earliest.


32 posted on 09/08/2020 8:32:10 AM PDT by ought-six (Multiculturalism is national suicide, and political correctness is the cyanide capsule.)
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To: Leaning Right

Here’s the Pentagon Report the author is referencing

https://media.defense.gov/2020/Sep/01/2002488689/-1/-1/1/2020-DOD-CHINA-MILITARY-POWER-REPORT-FINAL.PDF


33 posted on 09/08/2020 8:34:24 AM PDT by caww
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To: setter

If you believe that, you’re an idiot. Those of us whom have served know all the little tricks the military industrial establishment use, including the exaggerated claims of our enemies competence and the incredible quality of their actually crap military hardware. Go back to the 50’s, 60’s, 70’s, 80’s, 90’s, etc...etc... And you’ll find the same pattern of US military leaders claiming our enemy’s military is so much more advanced and capable as the US military. It was not true then and it’s not true now. The Gens and Admrls just want more money to spend as that translates to more money to retire with. Also remember the flag officers are almost all Obama appointees, not only should they not be listened too, they should all be fired by the President as they’re not to be trusted ever.


34 posted on 09/08/2020 8:38:26 AM PDT by fatman6502002 ((The Team The Team The Team - Bo Schembechler circa 1969))
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To: fatman6502002
If you believe this agit-prop, you’re an idiot....just one of the little tricks the military industrial establishment uses:
(A) the exaggerated claims of our enemies competence and (B) touting the incredible quality of the enemies' crap military hardware.

Not if Biden gets elected.

Hunter Biden's business partnership w/ a Chinese investment firm funded by the Chinese Communist government started acquiring companies beneficial to the Chinese military..... they invested in China General Nuclear, records, financial documents, legal briefings, and court papers.” which ended up being charged by our FBI for stealing US nuclear secrets then ended up buying part of an American duel use technology company, meaning it produces technology that has civilian and military applications.......buying that for the benefit of the Chinese military.”

The Biden Relationship with China ‘Has Very Real National Security Implications.’
Hunter Biden’s deals ‘served’ China and the Chinese military, while Joe Biden was Obama's VP.

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The entire Biden family was involved in undermining the safety and security of Americans while Joe Biden was Obama's VP.
<><> Joe’s brother, James Biden, freely revealed his associations to the NYT; James talked without fear.
<><> indicates that the Biden family had protection from a VERY HIGH SOURCE.........

BACKSTORY In December 2016, the FBI busted a China General nuclear engineer, Szuhsiung “Allen” Ho, for conspiring to help China illegally obtain “sensitive nuclear technology” from within the US.........

After Chi Ping Ho got nailed, an executive with CEFC China Energy Co., was busted by the FBI in 2017 for bribing officials in Africa, ........“one of the CEFC China Energy Co.’s exec first calls” was to James Biden, Joe Biden’s brother.

Last year, James Biden told The New York Times....(without fear)......that he believed China Energy Co.’s exec(later convicted) had been trying to reach Hunter and that, he, James Biden, provided his nephew’s contact information.

35 posted on 09/08/2020 8:41:57 AM PDT by Liz
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To: ought-six

Hitler made the same mistake Napoleon made. H tried to fight a two front war. Also Hitler had not the natural resources germany needed to fight a war on that scale. Hitler was not a genius of any kind, he was simply a murderous POS that was able to take advantage of the typical eurotrash belief in appeasement.


36 posted on 09/08/2020 8:42:57 AM PDT by fatman6502002 ((The Team The Team The Team - Bo Schembechler circa 1969))
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To: fatman6502002
The Chinese strategy of numbers over quality was the exact same strategy the soviet union used, how well did that work out for the commies.
Exactly, Fatman. Perhaps the Chinese will pull ahead of the West in terms of numbers, but they're still Chinese. Their hardware is made with stolen innovation, shoddy materials, little or no quality control, etc. And it'll be manned by Chinese soldiers and sailors, essentially insects in human form.
37 posted on 09/08/2020 8:43:12 AM PDT by Blurb2350
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To: Leaning Right
1. This is a cynical ploy by the Pentagon to get an increase in their funding.
2. This is a genuine warning that must be heeded.

This articel is so full of lies that I assumed the reason is item 1.

38 posted on 09/08/2020 8:44:03 AM PDT by Spirochete
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To: fatman6502002

“Quantity has a quality all its own.” - Joseph Stalin


39 posted on 09/08/2020 8:44:14 AM PDT by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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To: ought-six

The quantity over quality thing played a big part in the Soviet victory over Nazi Germany. The Soviets were mass-producing thousands of T-34 tanks while the Germans were fussing around with their over-engineered Tiger tank.

But yes, you are correct about the leadership thing. Hitler interfered with his generals more and more as the war went in. On the other hand, Stalin wised up and let his generals run most things.


40 posted on 09/08/2020 8:44:49 AM PDT by Leaning Right (I have already previewed or do not wish to preview this composition.)
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