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The birthers are back (Barf Alert)
Washington Post ^ | August 13th 2020 | Karen Tumulty

Posted on 08/15/2020 2:35:33 PM PDT by Ennis85

Well, that didn’t take long.

A non-White American citizen born right here in the United States has gotten a spot on the Democratic presidential ticket, and the birthers have come scurrying out from whatever rock they have been living under since Barack Obama left office.

Within hours of former vice president Joe Biden’s announcement Wednesday of his history-making running mate, once-reputable Newsweek posted a story posing “Some Questions for Kamala Harris About Eligibility.”

The author, John Eastman, a conservative law professor, wrote that “some” are “questioning” whether Harris might be “constitutionally ineligible” to be vice president because, should she have to step into the presidency, she might not meet the Constitution’s Article II requirement that this country’s chief executive be a “natural born” citizen.

Jenna Ellis, who appears frequently these days on cable television as a “senior legal adviser” to the Trump campaign, quickly embraced this nontroversy, retweeting a link to Eastman’s article and later declaring Harris’s eligibility an “open question.” So we are left to assume that the president’s reelection campaign is on board with this line of inquiry, which is reminiscent of President Trump’s own leadership of the “birther” movement when it was first launched against Obama.

Harris is the daughter of immigrants. Her father (from Jamaica) and her mother (from India) were not citizens at the time of her birth in 1964. A birth that — Have I mentioned this? Stay with me here, because this is important — happened in Oakland, Calif., which was then and is now in the United States of America. That means Harris was a U.S. citizen from the first second of her life.

The theoretical and esoteric question of whether first-generation Americans are eligible to be president is booted around from time to time in law-professor circles.

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TOPICS: Government; News/Current Events; US: California; US: Delaware; US: District of Columbia
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"A non-White American citizen"

Expect to see more of this in the months ahead.

1 posted on 08/15/2020 2:35:33 PM PDT by Ennis85
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“Harris is the daughter of immigrants. Her father (from Jamaica) and her mother (from India) were not citizens at the time of her birth in 1964.”

not eligible ... except to the J Roberts who PROVED he
cannot read AND has sold out to the DS long ago.


2 posted on 08/15/2020 2:37:48 PM PDT by Diogenesis ("when a crime is unpunished, the world is unbalanced")
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To: Ennis85

Playing the race card.
That convinces me.

Nevermind that kamala’s parents were not citizens


3 posted on 08/15/2020 2:39:24 PM PDT by South Dakota (This is what I do. I drink and I know things)
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To: Diogenesis

That citizenship of her parents has nothing to do with her eligibility.


4 posted on 08/15/2020 2:41:02 PM PDT by mlo
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To: Ennis85

Whaddya expect? Dems are trying to foist off another Halfrican into the Presidency... Say anything, they say!


5 posted on 08/15/2020 2:41:18 PM PDT by W. (What, me worry?)
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To: Ennis85

Both parents must be U.S. citizens at the time of your birth.

End of story.


6 posted on 08/15/2020 2:41:20 PM PDT by Meatspace
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To: Ennis85

Concepts like inherited nationality are difficult for people like Karen.


7 posted on 08/15/2020 2:41:26 PM PDT by Regulator
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once-reputable Newsweek posted a story posing “Some Questions for Kamala Harris About Eligibility.”

Actually, Newsweek is fast recovering their reputation lately. I have been pleasantly surprised by some of their most recent articles.
Too bad they backed down to the woke crowd on this one.

8 posted on 08/15/2020 2:42:51 PM PDT by SmokingJoe
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To: mlo

Based on what? Be precise!


9 posted on 08/15/2020 2:43:17 PM PDT by White Lives Matter
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"Both parents must be U.S. citizens at the time of your birth."

Nope. That is not the law.

10 posted on 08/15/2020 2:43:36 PM PDT by mlo
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>>A non-White American citizen born right here in the United States

To non-citizen parents from 2 different countries with subsequent residency in Canada.

Just how many national citizenships does she have?


11 posted on 08/15/2020 2:43:47 PM PDT by a fool in paradise (Joe Biden- "First thing I'd do is repeal those Trump tax cuts." (May 4th, 2019))
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To: Regulator

I could be wrong, but I think Harris was born a citizen of Jamaica, and a citizen of India, as well as a US citizen. That’s not a recipe for being a Natural Born Citizen. She has potential allegiance to three nations. Not suitable to be President. Not eligible.


12 posted on 08/15/2020 2:44:24 PM PDT by ClearCase_guy (If White Privilege is real, why did Elizabeth Warren lie about being an Indian?)
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The birthers are back (Barf Alert)

And I, for one, have missed them.

13 posted on 08/15/2020 2:44:38 PM PDT by DoodleDawg
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"Based on what? Be precise!"

There is no such requirement in the Constitution.

14 posted on 08/15/2020 2:44:48 PM PDT by mlo
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To: Ennis85

WashPoo points out she is non-white.

She is also non-African-American.


15 posted on 08/15/2020 2:45:03 PM PDT by a fool in paradise (Joe Biden- "First thing I'd do is repeal those Trump tax cuts." (May 4th, 2019))
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In every country on Earth a child born to two non-citizens is not a citizen, natural-born or otherwise. If my parents were vacationing in France the day I was born I would still be a U.S. citizen, and ineligible to be president.


16 posted on 08/15/2020 2:45:39 PM PDT by freedomjusticeruleoflaw (Strange that a man with his wealth would have to resort to prostitution.)
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To: mlo

That is the law regarding special citizenship called “natural-born citizenship.”


17 posted on 08/15/2020 2:48:42 PM PDT by freedomjusticeruleoflaw (Strange that a man with his wealth would have to resort to prostitution.)
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To: Ennis85
The Constitution, Art. II, says in pertinant part: “No Person except a natural born Citizen, or a Citizen of the United States, at the time of the adoption of this Constitution, shall be eligible to the Office of President;”

Since everyone who was a citizen at the time of adoption is dead we can remove the grandfather clause wording. We are left with “No Person except a natural born Citizen [...] shall be eligible to the Office of President;”

Why does the Constitution speak of “citizens” and separately of “natural born citizens”? Why is the word “natural” inserted? It is a matter of allegiance.

A person can be a “citizen” if they were citizens or subjects in some other country first but have come here and met the naturalization requirements. Also, if one is the offspring of a citizen and a non-citizen, then one is a US citizen. However, in both these cases it can be argued that the person might choose allegiance to their former country or to the country of the foreign- born parent or at least the allegiance might be considered divided. That is, there is no natural allegiance of the offspring to one or the other parent’s country. It is this divided or alienated allegiance that the Constitutional provision is designed to prohibit.

If, however, both of one’s parents are themselves US citizens at the time of one's birth, then one is a “citizen” as well as a “natural born citizen”. The “natural born citizen” is one who at birth has no natural allegiance to any other country and the Framers felt could be trusted to be loyal to the US and not act as a foreign agent. In short, a natural born citizen is one who cannot be argued to be anything but; there is no possible argument that he might be a citizen elsewhere. [footnote: Also, in their time, the rules of royal succession held sway throughout much of the world and the Founders wished to forstall any potential claims by the crowned heads of Europe or their scions to sovereignty in the US.]

Note that native born is not the same as natural born. Native born simply refers to the place of one’s birth, i.e., of one’s nativity. The term does not speak to the legal circumstances of a birth, merely to its location.

18 posted on 08/15/2020 2:49:00 PM PDT by Paine in the Neck ( Socialism consumes EVERYTHING!)
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Another one to add to the "deliberately ignorant" list.
19 posted on 08/15/2020 2:49:19 PM PDT by ASA Vet (Jus Soli + Jus sanguinis = NBC)
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Yep the Dems are back with their same old garbage ,LOL


20 posted on 08/15/2020 2:49:31 PM PDT by butlerweave
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