Posted on 08/15/2020 6:09:37 AM PDT by marktwain
May 21, 2020, at about 10:53 p.m, in Phoenix's Ahwatukee Foothills neighborhood, officers are responding to a noise complaint thinly disguised as a domestic violence incident. The complainant is desperate to get to sleep because he has to get up to go to work. He tells the dispatcher at 10:18 it is a domestic altercation. The exact time of the second call is not given, but the caller says it is a half-hour after the first call.
In the second call, the caller makes clear this is a noise complaint. He is asked if this is a male and a female in a verbal. From what police have released of the call (includes graphic video of the shooting) :
Complainant:
Yeah, and its getting really loud and they been doing it for the last hour. I gotta get it to work tomorrow, and I can't get no sleep.
These guys have been noisy constantly Every time I come back, these guys are noisier than hell. Always fighting.
Dispatcher:
Okay does it sound like it's escalated to anything physical or still just sound verbal?
Complainant:
Oh. It could be physical, I..I could say yeah if that makes anybody hurry up on, get over here any faster.
Dispatcher:
Anything to indicate it might be physical?
Complainant:
I hear slamming of doors and I don't know. Somebody could be gettin' thrown into a door for all I know. But I hear all kinds of banging.
The police go to the apartment. Officers take up positions on each side of the door, well separated. One officer knocks on the door, and announces Phoenix police, in a slightly elevated voice.
(Excerpt) Read more at ammoland.com ...
READ THE POST. Doesn’t matter what you do. If the cops have decided today is your day you DIE. And they don’t get punished.
"...If the cops decide today is your day you DIE..."
No. Not conspiracy. Unfortunate combination of cops in the wrong mood and opportunity for that mood to turn into disaster. Stop blaming the victim. It’s sleazy.
"...Stop blaming the victim..."
No. You’re blaming the victim. You’re saying if he’d had a security door and didn’t answer he’d be alive. THAT is victim blaming. Also it’s deeply screwed up that you now think we’re best served by treating the police like home invaders. And finally your advice has a proven track record of not working:
https://www.texastribune.org/2019/10/13/fort-worth-police-officer-shoots-and-kills-black-woman-home/
Like I said. Cops in the wrong mood show up at your place, you die. Period.
"...it's deeply screwed-up..."
And if the cops think there’s a hot situation going down in your house, that will NOT save your life. In fact it will guarantee they’re in a crap mood by the time they get in and you die. STOP BLAMING THE VICTIM
"...hot situation going down..."
They were called on a domestic violence. That would be hot. Of course you’re right, in the long run that doesn’t matter. The link I sent you wasn’t a hot situation, and the lady followed your advice and didn’t answer the door, AND SHE GOT KILLED ANYWAY.
No, on a domestic violence call cops WILL enter the building. There’s no way they’re going away having knocked but not gotten an answer. Cause if it IS domestic violence, and somebody gets beat to death they’re screwed.
Again TELL THE COPS THAT.
Face it: you are wrong.
You are blaming the victim
and you are sounding like an ASS
We have DOZENS of these types of situations that prove you’re full of $%^&. Now STOP DIGGING
Why the concern about proximity to the front door? If theyre going to kick it in, they can do that no matter where Im standing.
"ALL CAPITAL LETTERS!"
Hoping you’ll actually listen. You clearly are not. You’ve been led to water. You refuse to drink. You’re full of crap, you’re victim blaming, and your ideas of what the victim should have done have a proven track record of not stopping cops from killing innocent people. I’ve explained that all to you multiple times, you continue to post the same hogwash. You clearly want to be an idiot. Goodbye. Good luck.
"...You clearly want to be an idiot..."
If you speak to them through a window, you don’t need to go to the door. The idea of “Someone is beating on my door in the middle of the night. Let me open the door and find out what they want” is ignorant. Speaking to them through the door just tells them where you are. One of my neighbors got shot doing that.
I never answer my door for anyone I am not expecting. I go on my deck(10 feet up) and speak down to them. With a gun nearby.
"... I never answer my door for anyone I am not expecting.
I go on my deck (10 feet up) and speak down to them. With a gun nearby..."
If Im talking through the bathroom window, they know where I am. Id just tell them to call me, or call dispatch and give them my number.
If it’s family, ppsht..I’m not home
Gang going through the neighborhood
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