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What a Second American Civil War Could Look Like
Townhall.com ^ | July 21, 2020 | Mark Nuckols

Posted on 07/21/2020 6:19:22 AM PDT by Kaslin

I fear that there is a looming civil war on the horizon. It is not yet inevitable, but all true American patriots must be prepared for the coming battle. And the costs in blood will be heavy. This war will not be fought like the American Revolution or the Civil War of 1861-65, where disciplined armies observed the laws of war and respected civilian lives.

This war will be waged by far-left radicals and their deep-state puppet masters. For them, civilian casualties and massacres will not be moral evils, but merely part and parcel of their larger plan to “reconstruct” America. Their objective is simple: overthrow our constitutional order, destroy our way of life, and deprive us of our freedom, our liberties, our property, and our honor.

I have spent many years in countries that have suffered civil war and its horrors, such as Russia (including Chechnya), Syria, Lebanon, Croatia, Bosnia, and Kosovo. I have also carefully studied the history of revolutions and civil conflict. And until recently I would never have believed a second civil war in America to be possible. But the warning signs are all there, and they began appearing most visibly when Donald Trump became the Republican nominee for president. He is the first American politician that strikes fear into the hearts of both the deep state and the radical left. And that fear makes them extremely dangerous.

The Bolshevik October Revolution of 1917 was carried out by a mere few thousand party members in St. Petersburg. And it was sudden and unexpected, the Bolshevik Central Committee made the decision to launch a coup d’etat only hours before its execution. In fact, as late as July 1917 Lenin himself did not expect a communist revolution in his lifetime. The Russian Civil War that followed is a horrifying story of savage carnage and obscene violence.

In similar fashion, I believe one likely spark for the Second American Civil War will be the result of a coup d’etat carried out by anti-America extremists. It will catch most Americans by surprise. The coup plotters will act quickly to seize the critical levers of power, before any opposition has a chance to react. And they will be aided and abetted by the kinds of people Lenin referred to, contemptuously, as useful idiots.

The shock troops will come from the ranks of Antifa and radical anti-white elements of the Black Lives Matter movement. These fascist stormtroopers will be augmented by the even larger numbers of veterans of Occupy and other far-left movements. And jihadists from across the globe will flock to support this coup. But the real power will be behind the scenes, in the hands of the bureaucrats of the American deep state, who will see such a far-left coup as their best chance to preserve and expand their far-reaching powers, but which President Trump threatens.

Much of the mainstream media will initially be warmly supportive. A few so-called conservatives at The New York Times may meekly protest that while the ends of the revolution are laudable, perhaps the means are a bit too messy. But most of the liberal media will fall into lockstep, in the belief that as long as they are supportive, the coup leaders will allow them to stay in business. Many Americans will believe their pro-coup propaganda and quietly submit, or at least refrain from overt resistance.

The faculties at Harvard, Yale, and Princeton will pass resolutions of fervent support, and their brainwashed students will rush to enlist in the revolution before all the excitement passes. Likewise, left-leaning foundations and oligarchs will promise financial support. And the Federal Reserve will flood the economy with debased currency.

Not all Democrat politicians will turn traitor, but there will be some prominent establishment “statesmen” who will betray our country. They will naively believe that they will be able to control the revolution and turn it to their own purposes. When their fig leaf of respectability is no longer required, they will get the fate they deserve. But their role will be critical, to give coup leaders the guise of “continuity of government” while they seize the critical levers of power.

America’s external enemies will not sit by idly. The new revolutionary government will offer generous terms in return for “foreign assistance” (meaning secret police), and troops if necessary. Expect a Treaty of San Antonio whereby Mexico “recovers her historic territories” of Texas, New Mexico, Arizona, and southern California. Russia will expect a return of Alaska (and its oil) to the Motherland. China and the European Union will demand we surrender our economic sovereignty and become vassals of Beijing and Brussels. And, of course, the United Nations will offer to send in the “blue helmets” to “restore civil order.” North Korea, Cuba, Venezuela, and Iran will all also want in on the spoils in return for “technical support.”

And what will be the agenda of this regime? The first priority is obvious: the confiscation of all privately owned guns. An armed citizenry ready and prepared to defend its rights would be an intolerable threat to the regime. The next logical step would be identifying any and all possible sources of opposition and interning them and their families in “re-education” camps. The third priority will be a radical redistribution of property. It would destroy the American free-enterprise economy, but short-term it would guarantee the loyal support of all those hoping for a share of the spoils.

I do not wish to be alarmist. But what I describe here is a plausible scenario. And have no doubt, our nation’s enemies are resolute and determined. The continued existence of our great country, the United States of America, will depend on the bravery, strength, resourcefulness, and patriotism of her most loyal citizens. We must stand prepared for all possible threats.

May God bless and protect America.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Editorial
KEYWORDS: america; antifa; banglist; blm; civilwar; communism; cwii; cwiiping; deepstate; marxism; preppers; shtf
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To: Kaslin

What about US military forces? I would think many US troops would stay true to their oath to defend the Constitution from all enemies foreign and domestic. This would be especially true if UN troops or foreign national mercenaries were on US soil. I would expect US forces would quickly crush this rebellion.


161 posted on 07/21/2020 9:30:11 AM PDT by The Great RJ ("Socialists are happy until they run out of other people's money." Margaret Thatcher)
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To: Yo-Yo
Gorilla War
162 posted on 07/21/2020 9:31:39 AM PDT by Pollard (whatever)
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To: DuncanWaring

We are not the Fins or the Serbs. It’s like comparing apples and oranges.


163 posted on 07/21/2020 9:32:52 AM PDT by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped)
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To: Perseverando
People vote with their pocketbooks according to an old adage.

Yes, it has been and ever will be thus... Once an economy starts to fail, IMO and only then, will the upheaval whether it be at the ballot box or in the streets will begin in earnest. The average human, in my experience, will endure a great deal of suffering and inconvenience before undertaking the actions that the rugged individualist has long since understood to be necessary.

164 posted on 07/21/2020 9:33:20 AM PDT by PerConPat (A politician is an animal that can sit on a fence and yet keep both ears to the ground--Mencken)
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To: TMN78247

So you believe that resupplying the Patriot households in the bigger cities is UNIMPORTANT to “the common defense”??
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Evacuate Patriot households, must show id of Republican Party, Conservative Party or First responder, military or merchant marine service. Possibly commercial license rating as well. Even engineering degrees could get you out. Based on what the Red Zones need. The ‘cities’ would be made up of Liberals, Socialists, Demo-minorities. I think they will have fun together when the lights go out.


165 posted on 07/21/2020 9:36:31 AM PDT by joegoeny ("Nuts!")
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To: Pollard

166 posted on 07/21/2020 9:38:24 AM PDT by Yo-Yo ( is the /sarc tag really necessary?)
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To: TMN78247

“So you believe that resupplying the Patriot households in the bigger cities is UNIMPORTANT to “the common defense”??”

Gonna be damn near impossible. My opinion, as someone who has studied urban guerrilla warfare, is that cities and built-up areas are no place to be trapped when the shooting/looting/raping/killing starts.

Smart people should have a place to go to where they can hole up for a while, or be prepared to throw down with the fight. At least get your family out of the way.

The trucks *will* stop running, one way or another. The military doesn’t have the lift to meet everyone’s minimum RDA of anything.


167 posted on 07/21/2020 9:38:32 AM PDT by PLMerite ("They say that we were Cold Warriors. Yes, and a bloody good show, too." - Robert Conquest)
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To: PerConPat

Anyone here ever read “Prayers for the Assassin”? It discusses one scenario for the balkanization the USA.


168 posted on 07/21/2020 9:44:20 AM PDT by JusPasenThru (If Biden wins he will kill Republicans.)
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To: TMN78247

You are putting words in my mouth, I did not say anything like that. But the urban areas mostly are in grave danger.


169 posted on 07/21/2020 9:45:38 AM PDT by matthew fuller (we're "blessed to have a leader" like Trump. Goya CEO)
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To: Brooklyn Attitude

” So far this is just an unopposed cultural revolution.”

The war is an attempted Marxist takeover of government. The soldiers on the conservative side are the police. You and I, as individuals, are not allowed to fight. If we do, we will be arrested. The police are supposed to do the fighting for us. Hence, the calls to defund the police.

Take for example, the couple who brandished guns to protect their property from looters. No one was hurt. The guns were not used. The couple has been charged with a felony. Higher level government is resisting the charges and this will work its way out in court, rather than on a battlefield.

As for the looting and riots, so far they have been confined to liberal areas. The other, now formerly liberal voters, are not amused. Expect the next election in those areas to work out the civil unrest caused by the elected government people who will be thrown out of office.

As civil wars go, this one will be short. The people doing the fighting are sh@tting in their own nest.


170 posted on 07/21/2020 9:49:06 AM PDT by Gen.Blather (Wait! I said that out loud?)
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To: matthew fuller
It will be the country/rural America against the commie cities. Stop the trucks into the cities, and they will implode.

Yes, and the front lines of CWII will be in the cities and suburbs. I anticipate that there will be lots of "child soldiers" used as cannon fodder by the BLM/Antifa gangs.

171 posted on 07/21/2020 9:55:57 AM PDT by Perseverando (Antifa, BLM, Libs, Progs, Islamonazis, Statists, Commies, DemoKKKrats: It's a Godlessness disorder.)
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To: matthew fuller

Almost all of the major cities can be resupplied by ocean terminal.


172 posted on 07/21/2020 9:58:22 AM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn...)
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To: TMN78247

I can see you are well versed and prepared. I am not unfortunately as I am completing a 30 year career in a Blue state at the beginning of April next year.
I have an RV for fall back and am hoping to acquire a nice home in the hollows of Appalachia where I will begin again my hobby of marksmanship. And initiate the related hobby of reloading...
I have acquaintance of 30-06, 7.62x39, .223, German 8mm,.22LR, 12guage, .50 among others. The .50 in case of bear. 12 gauge in case of unwanted guests.
I am hoping to begin my acquaintance with pistols when I settle in a Red state. I like the .45 for stopping power and I am interested in the 10mm but I may settle for the 9mm for general practice. I like vintage and replica combat arms especially. Oh and .22 is great for Squirrel, rabbit and other varmints that can go into the pot!
I truly enjoyed your comment and will reread it again when time allows me to enjoy it. Thanks, Joegoeny


173 posted on 07/21/2020 9:58:55 AM PDT by joegoeny ("Nuts!")
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To: Gen.Blather
As civil wars go, this one will be short. The people doing the fighting are sh@tting in their own nest.


174 posted on 07/21/2020 9:59:31 AM PDT by Perseverando (Antifa, BLM, Libs, Progs, Islamonazis, Statists, Commies, DemoKKKrats: It's a Godlessness disorder.)
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To: VanDeKoik
Well then go out and start shooting people instead of talking each other up on a message board.

We are not in the going out and shooting random people business. Right now we are in the shooting back when fired upon or threatened business. For now.
October/November may change things.
Antifa/BLM may start a war, but they are not the ones when will finish it, if they start it.

cant get most of you to show up to even a PTA meeting or maintain a damn boycott of a sports league....but you are going to shoot people in a “war”.

Given that even my grandchildren have finished college, are in college or about to enter college, I think you are whistling in the wind.

175 posted on 07/21/2020 10:03:03 AM PDT by SmokingJoe
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To: joegoeny

“...Lead car batteries and lead bullet molds, husband your brass...”
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But, What do you do for primers?


176 posted on 07/21/2020 10:08:47 AM PDT by Repeal The 17th (Get out of the matrix and get a real life.)
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To: JerseyDvl
Republicans are the ones who do most of the hard work.
Dems/Antifa/BLM are too busy rioting, looting, burning and murdering right now.
177 posted on 07/21/2020 10:09:04 AM PDT by SmokingJoe
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To: joegoeny

ImVho, it will be NECESSARY for some Patriots to “stay behind” in the cities to STRIKE BACK AT the lunatics/crazies/domestic terrorists, in the event that what I fear, that will happen after DJT is reelected, comes to pass.

Some “out of the central city resupply” will HAVE to be provided for us “city folks” to continue the fight in the “terrorist backyards”, regardless of the difficulty of resupplying “friendly forces” may become.
(Even in 1944 Occupied Paris, some resupply of critical supplies was done successfully by the Allied High Command.)

just my OPINION, TMN78247
USA, Retired


178 posted on 07/21/2020 10:25:14 AM PDT by TMN78247 ("VICTORY or DEATH", William Barrett Travis, LtCol, comdt., Fortress of the Alamo, Bejar, F'by 241836)
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To: SmokingJoe

I can’t see independent truckers siding with the antifa folks. This will be about food availability.

The battle will be urban vs rural with rural having both food and guns. I don’t see it lasting long when the conservatives finally decide they have had enough and stand up and fight.


180 posted on 07/21/2020 10:27:06 AM PDT by tired&retired (Blessings)
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