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What a Second American Civil War Could Look Like
Townhall.com ^ | July 21, 2020 | Mark Nuckols

Posted on 07/21/2020 6:19:22 AM PDT by Kaslin

I fear that there is a looming civil war on the horizon. It is not yet inevitable, but all true American patriots must be prepared for the coming battle. And the costs in blood will be heavy. This war will not be fought like the American Revolution or the Civil War of 1861-65, where disciplined armies observed the laws of war and respected civilian lives.

This war will be waged by far-left radicals and their deep-state puppet masters. For them, civilian casualties and massacres will not be moral evils, but merely part and parcel of their larger plan to “reconstruct” America. Their objective is simple: overthrow our constitutional order, destroy our way of life, and deprive us of our freedom, our liberties, our property, and our honor.

I have spent many years in countries that have suffered civil war and its horrors, such as Russia (including Chechnya), Syria, Lebanon, Croatia, Bosnia, and Kosovo. I have also carefully studied the history of revolutions and civil conflict. And until recently I would never have believed a second civil war in America to be possible. But the warning signs are all there, and they began appearing most visibly when Donald Trump became the Republican nominee for president. He is the first American politician that strikes fear into the hearts of both the deep state and the radical left. And that fear makes them extremely dangerous.

The Bolshevik October Revolution of 1917 was carried out by a mere few thousand party members in St. Petersburg. And it was sudden and unexpected, the Bolshevik Central Committee made the decision to launch a coup d’etat only hours before its execution. In fact, as late as July 1917 Lenin himself did not expect a communist revolution in his lifetime. The Russian Civil War that followed is a horrifying story of savage carnage and obscene violence.

In similar fashion, I believe one likely spark for the Second American Civil War will be the result of a coup d’etat carried out by anti-America extremists. It will catch most Americans by surprise. The coup plotters will act quickly to seize the critical levers of power, before any opposition has a chance to react. And they will be aided and abetted by the kinds of people Lenin referred to, contemptuously, as useful idiots.

The shock troops will come from the ranks of Antifa and radical anti-white elements of the Black Lives Matter movement. These fascist stormtroopers will be augmented by the even larger numbers of veterans of Occupy and other far-left movements. And jihadists from across the globe will flock to support this coup. But the real power will be behind the scenes, in the hands of the bureaucrats of the American deep state, who will see such a far-left coup as their best chance to preserve and expand their far-reaching powers, but which President Trump threatens.

Much of the mainstream media will initially be warmly supportive. A few so-called conservatives at The New York Times may meekly protest that while the ends of the revolution are laudable, perhaps the means are a bit too messy. But most of the liberal media will fall into lockstep, in the belief that as long as they are supportive, the coup leaders will allow them to stay in business. Many Americans will believe their pro-coup propaganda and quietly submit, or at least refrain from overt resistance.

The faculties at Harvard, Yale, and Princeton will pass resolutions of fervent support, and their brainwashed students will rush to enlist in the revolution before all the excitement passes. Likewise, left-leaning foundations and oligarchs will promise financial support. And the Federal Reserve will flood the economy with debased currency.

Not all Democrat politicians will turn traitor, but there will be some prominent establishment “statesmen” who will betray our country. They will naively believe that they will be able to control the revolution and turn it to their own purposes. When their fig leaf of respectability is no longer required, they will get the fate they deserve. But their role will be critical, to give coup leaders the guise of “continuity of government” while they seize the critical levers of power.

America’s external enemies will not sit by idly. The new revolutionary government will offer generous terms in return for “foreign assistance” (meaning secret police), and troops if necessary. Expect a Treaty of San Antonio whereby Mexico “recovers her historic territories” of Texas, New Mexico, Arizona, and southern California. Russia will expect a return of Alaska (and its oil) to the Motherland. China and the European Union will demand we surrender our economic sovereignty and become vassals of Beijing and Brussels. And, of course, the United Nations will offer to send in the “blue helmets” to “restore civil order.” North Korea, Cuba, Venezuela, and Iran will all also want in on the spoils in return for “technical support.”

And what will be the agenda of this regime? The first priority is obvious: the confiscation of all privately owned guns. An armed citizenry ready and prepared to defend its rights would be an intolerable threat to the regime. The next logical step would be identifying any and all possible sources of opposition and interning them and their families in “re-education” camps. The third priority will be a radical redistribution of property. It would destroy the American free-enterprise economy, but short-term it would guarantee the loyal support of all those hoping for a share of the spoils.

I do not wish to be alarmist. But what I describe here is a plausible scenario. And have no doubt, our nation’s enemies are resolute and determined. The continued existence of our great country, the United States of America, will depend on the bravery, strength, resourcefulness, and patriotism of her most loyal citizens. We must stand prepared for all possible threats.

May God bless and protect America.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Editorial
KEYWORDS: america; antifa; banglist; blm; civilwar; communism; cwii; cwiiping; deepstate; marxism; preppers; shtf
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To: Kaslin
It will largely be influence by which side law enforcement and the military side with.

Hence the Southern Poverty Law Center offering cops and the military seminars on the growing threat of white supremacists.

101 posted on 07/21/2020 8:01:50 AM PDT by yesthatjallen
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To: jeffersondem

“If President Trump is reelected and begins to do the things that must be done, I can see California and other radical states attempting to break away.”

There were reports of a Western Conference of States and an Eastern Conference of States. All liberal States, of course.

I suspect those illegal organizations have continued.


102 posted on 07/21/2020 8:02:10 AM PDT by CodeToad (Arm Up! They Have!)
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To: SmokingJoe

Well, the author posted about all these places that had widespread and sustained civil unrest in the recent era that he had been to, and that the warning signs are now are ‘all there’ for the US to potentially become like those places. I was pointing out that there would also seem to be many societal factors that now exist in the the US that are radically different from any place that has ever had a civil war, including our own civil war, and certainly the places mentioned by the author.

Freegards


103 posted on 07/21/2020 8:02:50 AM PDT by Ransomed
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To: VanShuyten

“ But what I describe here is a plausible scenario.”

No, it’s not.


While I do think it is important to say what the OP said because history really is relevant, we are not in the position yet for this to happen, even with the deep state.

-We still have the 2A. And gun sales are through the roof because people know, below the surface subconsciously, that the Constitution really is at risk, and that the 2A does protect the rest of the constitution.

-These “useful Idiots” have no idea that the rights protected by the Constitution are really going to be abused in their socialist paradise, as if they are respected everywhere, which they are not, and they are in for a rude awakening. Just look at CHAD or CHAZ or whatever the anarchists declared on the west coast; Roving bands of “authority” armed with the dreaded “Assault Weapons” the left wants to ban, will replace equality under the law with social justice re-education, forced. And they are not going to like it. That is why the “Useful Idiots” Lenin needs, are the first to be executed.
And this assumes there is not a major push back by patriots, former LEO and Military, who “disappear” these idiots on a large scale.

Technology, cameras and smart phones will also not let the majority ignore the resulting atrocities. I don’t know for sure, but I believe this to be a game changer for the revolution success in the negative.

But in the end, we still believe in our system of laws, a jury, and effective law enforcement, all sworn to uphold and defend the constitution, which is the unique attribute of our system which might survive this socialist onslaught that other countries could not.


104 posted on 07/21/2020 8:04:38 AM PDT by Wildbill22 ( They have us surrounded again, the poor bastards- Gen Creighton William Abrams)
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To: sport

She “hung herself” in jail...just like Epstein.


105 posted on 07/21/2020 8:05:49 AM PDT by SmokingJoe
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To: Brian Griffin

I’m sure many white BLM protesters have excessive student debt.

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Those few that are unfortunate enough not to have a trust fund.


106 posted on 07/21/2020 8:06:14 AM PDT by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now its your turn)
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To: sport

There were millions of deaths from the Cultural Revolution and the Great Leap Forward


74,000,000


107 posted on 07/21/2020 8:08:28 AM PDT by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now its your turn)
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To: SmokingJoe

Pre-war Germany had around 500,000 Jews out of 70 million population. By the time of the Final Solution, around 400,000 of them had emigrated.

Germany had to invade east to find large numbers of Jews to kill.


108 posted on 07/21/2020 8:09:43 AM PDT by jjotto (Blessed are You LORD, who crushes enemies and subdues the wicked.)
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To: SmokingJoe; All

Having been a participant in a “dirty little war” OCONUS, I seriously suggest that intelligent Americans plan for their LOCAL DEFENSE for the “horror show” that will begin on 04NOV20, when it is announced that DJT has won reelection, that the HoR is safely in GOP hands & the US Senate remains GOP controlled.

As for me & our house, we are ARMED & PREPARED to defend home & hearth from all comers, who want to attack us. - We will NOT “go out looking for trouble” but we are prepared in case trouble comes looking for us.
(I would seriously suggest to troublemakers that they stay OUT of our area/Eastside neighborhood, as the average householder here is armed & willing to defend their family/property.= In 2018, we polled our zip code & found exactly 2 households that did NOT have at least a shotgun available for home defense. - Fwiw, both “gun free” householders were elderly ladies & one of those ladies passed away last Spring of old age.)

Just my opinion, TMN78247
USA, Retired


109 posted on 07/21/2020 8:10:55 AM PDT by TMN78247 ("VICTORY or DEATH", William Barrett Travis, LtCol, comdt., Fortress of the Alamo, Bejar, F'by 241836)
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To: Kaslin

Fins your nearest 20 something year old white girl and punch her in the face.

War over.


110 posted on 07/21/2020 8:11:29 AM PDT by The Toll
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To: MarDav

I think that is a bit unrealistic, likely they will be the first to evacuate and shadow direct or lend credibility to a anti-insurrectionist trope.


111 posted on 07/21/2020 8:13:24 AM PDT by Bayard
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To: VanShuyten
It already is

112 posted on 07/21/2020 8:13:24 AM PDT by SmokingJoe
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To: antidemoncrat

ImVho, the LEFTISTS are just THAT clueless.= I suspect that they, too late, will “discover the error of their ways”.

Yours, TMN78247


113 posted on 07/21/2020 8:13:56 AM PDT by TMN78247 ("VICTORY or DEATH", William Barrett Travis, LtCol, comdt., Fortress of the Alamo, Bejar, F'by 241836)
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To: TMN78247
I agree 100%.
I think the certainty of a strong fight back from armed citizenry is the real reason why the Soros bought and paid for DA (Gardner) is bringing charges against that St Louis couple who defended themselves.
114 posted on 07/21/2020 8:19:37 AM PDT by SmokingJoe
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To: combat_boots

Learn Mexican/Central American Spanish to get along with your new neighbors.

Learn Mandarin Chinese to obey your new Overlords.

Learn Orwell’s Newspeak for communicating with your fellow comrades.


115 posted on 07/21/2020 8:20:52 AM PDT by Alas Babylon! (The prisons do not fill themselves. Get moving, Barr!)
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To: Yo-Yo
So CWII won't be a civil war, it will be an asymmetric gorilla war.

....guerrilla war.

Not trying to be a smarta$$. I've seen it spelled that way pretty often and I've probably done it myself.
116 posted on 07/21/2020 8:21:19 AM PDT by Perseverando (Antifa, BLM, Libs, Progs, Islamonazis, Statists, Commies, DemoKKKrats: It's a Godlessness disorder.)
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To: snoringbear

If ammunition is available. That will be the key. Where are the ammunition plants? What are their supply chains? Where are the ammunition raw materials sourced? How are the ammunition companies financed? Can they be strangled if financing from Wall Street is cut off?


117 posted on 07/21/2020 8:25:13 AM PDT by ProtectOurFreedom
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To: Kaslin

Mark is foolish, perhaps even stupid

We are presently in the turmoil of the war he blathered about.
his stupidity and fear is in the process of destroying America because of inction


118 posted on 07/21/2020 8:25:22 AM PDT by bert ( (KE. NP. N.C. +12) Progressives are existential American enemies)
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To: z3n

Also, I actually can see the opposite sort of thing from Trump after the need for re-election is off the table and he is free’d up a bit on policy. I could see him backing off from pressuring these whack-job run liberal cities and let them continue to shoot themselves (and unfortunately their citizens) in the foot, and focus on ‘law and order’ where the people and their leaders actually want it.
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I think these cities need to be cut away from their respective states, it would do those states a world of good and isolate the infection to the Lib progressive cities. Treat them like commonwealths with no power in congress and maybe no input in the elections and certainly no power in the states.


119 posted on 07/21/2020 8:25:39 AM PDT by joegoeny ("Nuts!")
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To: Kaslin

It will be a hybrid of factions creating militias and guerrilla warfare and also entire states and regions seceding and then perhaps fighting conventionally with armies, in other words a mess.


120 posted on 07/21/2020 8:26:27 AM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn...)
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