Posted on 07/12/2020 11:11:17 AM PDT by Kaslin
One aspect of the various executive orders being issued all around the country impacts most retail businesses and private social groups, as well as public offices and spaces. Many of these EOs require stores and other public-facing operations wishing to reopen to mandate the wearing of face masks for not only employees but visitors to the establishment. This is quite common where I live, and the rules apply to most operations in a large number of states. But such an order leaves one very big question unanswered. What if the customer or visitor refuses to don a mask? Who is responsible for forcing them into compliance or physically blocking their entrance to the facility? That’s a question plaguing some of the nation’s major employers this month. NBC News published a brief report on this topic this week. (YouTube)
Countless viral videos show retail and restaurant employees taking heat from customers over mask requirements. While some business owners are training staff on how to deescalate the situation, others think employees shouldn’t be the ones required to enforce mask policies.
While this may not sound like a huge deal to some people, at least at first glance, we have already seen numerous examples of just how wrong such a situation can go. One of the worst of them took place in France, where bus drivers were given the responsibility of not allowing any passengers onboard sans face mask. One bus driver attempted to follow this mandate by asking four passengers to put on masks before boarding. He was rewarded for his trouble by being dragged out of his bus and literally beaten to death. (CNN)
A bus driver in France who was beaten up by passengers refusing to wear mandatory face masks died in hospital Friday, French Prime Minister Jean Castex and the victim’s family have said.
Philippe Monguillot, 59, was left brain dead after the attack in the southwestern city of Bayonne on July 5. His family decided to switch of his life support on Friday, news agency Agence France-Presse reported.
“We decided to let him go. The doctors were in favor and we were as well,” the victim’s 18-year-old daughter, Marie Monguillot, told AFP. Four men were detained and charged following the assault.
We’ve seen plenty of examples of similar incidents in the United States already, though thankfully none quite so brutal as this. But don’t be surprised if the same thing happens in America at some point.
And that brings us to the question of the day. If the local, municipal or state government issues an order saying that masks are mandatory inside of stores, churches, or anyplace else in the private sector, whose responsibility is it to enforce that decree? Sure, the store can put up a sign saying that masks are “required” to enter and do business. I don’t leave the house much these days (obviously) but I’ve seen plenty of such signs on the rare occasions when I’ve had to venture out. But what happens if someone ignores the sign and walks in anyway?
Certainly, an employee or manager could politely remind them, but the person could just as easily refuse. And then what? You can tell them that they won’t be served and wait for them to give up and leave, I suppose. But if they become belligerent, you’re probably going to have to call the cops on them. Given how long the average police response time is, you now have some time on your hands with a stock clerk or cashier facing down a potentially violent individual. And I’m sure that stories about your place of business calling the cops on somebody looking to pick up a bag of grass seed will do wonders for your customer approval ratings.
I’m not saying there’s an ideal solution to this problem staring us in the face. There aren’t enough cops in any precinct in the nation to station one outside every Target, Walmart and gas station to make sure everyone is complying with the local mask orders. But it’s the consumer who refuses to wear the mask who should be held accountable if anyone must be. Fining or otherwise punishing businesses and churches for being unable to control the behavior of their customers or members can not be allowed as long as a good-faith effort was made to inform the public of the rules.
“I have seen up to 50% of people in a store not wearing masks. A week later, nearly everyone does.”
That’s disturbing. Mind control works well on ignorant people, of course.
I’m working on one of those right now.
“My counties rules allow one to remove a mask while eating or drinking except when “interfacing” with the staff.
- enter restaurant wearing mask.
- remove mask once seated.
- when the server arrives to get drink order you’re ‘interfacing’ so the mask goes back on. Server leaves so you can remove mask.
- server brings drinks, you’re interfacing so put the mask back on. Server leaves so you can remove mask.
- waiter arrives to take entree order, more interfacing, mask back on. waiter leaves so mask can come off.
wash, rinse, repeat.
A typical dinner would involve 10 masking/unmasking events. How stupid. Accomplishes nothing.”
But...but...”Avoid touching your face!”
The only viable action is to call the cops for everyone who tries to go cognito...(urban dictionary entry - opposite of incognito).
How many officers are cities willing to dedicate to going after "maskless marauders" and how much heat are they willing to take as they do this while allowing violent anarchists to go about their rampages unopposed?
look to lib mayors to go that route and look for lawsuits as 'detainees" suffer even minor injuries.
Yesterday the Burger King chick at the drive-thru window had hers way below her nose. I don’t blame her. It’s a hostile workplace environment to be forced to breathe in less oxygen than the Good Lord intended when he created us.
Perhaps it’s disturbing. However because people behave differently than you does not make them ignorant. That’s an unreasoned and ignorant claim.
You’re nobody special.
Wearing or not wearing a mask is a political statement, that is a fact. Crazy town? Nope sorry. Keep watching the news a first amendment is coming, bank on it. The governors have already proven it’s purely political by making exceptions for protestors.
At the end of the day, the fear of death is what makes these people wacko.
Did you get one the Airsoft masks?
SmokingJoe wrote: “Are the mask rules absurd and totally stupid? Yup. These compulsory masks rules are not about health at all. Oh no.”
I’m not as conspiracy oriented. I believe our politicians are under extreme pressure to be seen doing something. Mask are an excellent way to demonstrate that they are doing something because they care.
FWIW, serving staff I’ve spoken with think these policies are absurd.
“You’re nobody special.”
Actually, I am.
Being a special ed student doesn’t mean what you think.
Just when I thought people were getting some common sense about how useless much of the mask wearing is, I am proben wrong.
No it isn’t. Or at least it shouldn’t be. Yes, definitely crazy town when you think a little bit of protecting others form your germs is a political statement and first amendment issue. In the end this is just being entitled whiners. Just like the people throwing hissy fits over McNuggets. It’s all a bunch of “but I don’t wanna”.
You do whatever you feel is best for you. I do what I feel is best for me. I will not be intimidated nor compelled to don a virtue signaling mask just to make someone else “feel” better.
“Rules” became non existent the minute the riots began buddy. Chew on that.
Rules made by who?
If Whitmar hands out a diktat saying everyone should walk backwards would you obey it?
What about if Whitmar handed out a “rule” saying all male first borns should be sacrificed?
Rule saying everyone is banned from getting married?
How about a rule banning the Republican Party and making Michigan a one party state?
How far are you prepared to go to be a mindless robot with no rights whatsoever?
“Being a special ed student doesn’t mean what you think.”
I know that. As an Advanced Placement Regents student in NYS when the schools were great, we helped the Special Ed kids. I get the difference.
Your refusal is your own virtue signalling. You’ve chosen a different set of virtues. I comply because it’s just not worth fighting about. Of all the hills to die on this is one of the stupidest.
Businesses. Government officials.
Oh look strawmen. Come back when you’ve got actual logic.
If your mask is so effective at protecting you from germs, why should you care if I have a mask on or not?
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