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Why was the U of M Covid Model so "Wrong" About Predicting Deaths through Memorial Day?
twincities.com St Paul Piomeer Press ^ | 05/26/2020 | Dave Orrick

Posted on 05/27/2020 2:58:38 AM PDT by JohnRand

Earlier this month, the University of Minnesota School of Public Health released projections from a revised coronavirus computer model that said deaths might double by Memorial Day.

That didn’t happen.

In fact, to a layman, it doesn’t even look close.

Minnesota Health Commissioner Jan Malcolm and a key official involved in the model both acknowledged Tuesday that the short-term death projections of the model are notably higher than the reality — but both defended the value of the model.

(Excerpt) Read more at twincities.com ...


TOPICS: Government; News/Current Events; US: Minnesota
KEYWORDS: coronavirus; covid19; democrats; drbirx; dwaths; fakemodels; fakenews; fauci; janmalcolm; lockdownjan; minnesota; modeling; plandemic; scandals; shutdown; timwalz; walz
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To: exDemMom; Magnum44

“According to the AP, the country is reporting one of the highest mortality rates from the virus of any country, with about 40 deaths per 100,000 people. The country’s unemployment rate stands at 7.9% and is expected to continue to rise.”

https://www.businessinsider.com/sweden-praises-coronavirus-strategy-despite-high-death-rate-2020-5

So, with everyone getting COVID in Sweden AND with no “Flatten The Curve” to help hospitals ever handle the waves of infected, Sweden can honestly show the world that on a worst case basis, only “0.0004” of any population will die from COVID.

Your assumptions and projections are both terrible.


41 posted on 05/27/2020 5:31:47 AM PDT by ConservativeMind (Trump: Befuddling Democrats, Republicans, and the Media for the benefit of the US and all mankind.)
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To: JohnRand
Minnesota Health Commissioner Jan Malcolm and a key official involved in the model both acknowledged Tuesday that the short-term death projections of the model are notably higher than the reality — but both defended the value of the model.

Similarly, elitists defend the validity of their global warming models, even though those models are shockingly inaccurate. I am disgusted by people who abuse math and science as levers to grab power over others.

42 posted on 05/27/2020 5:33:06 AM PDT by Pollster1 ("Governments derive their just powers from the consent of the governed")
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To: ConservativeMind
"Sweden had no lockdown and now they have herd immunity."

The case of Sweden does suggest a lockdown wasn't needed, but they hardly have 'herd immunity'. Antibody testing in Sweden has found ~1 in 5 people in Stockholm have antibodies to Covid. There are several possibilities for this, including the possibility that the antibody testing is insensitive, but at this point we can't say they have herd immunity - or anything close.

Remember that coronaviruses cause ~15% of annual colds. We certainly do not have herd immunity to colds. These enveloped RNA viruses are very good at evading the immune system.

43 posted on 05/27/2020 5:35:37 AM PDT by neverevergiveup
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To: JohnRand
Al Gore guaranteed that the world would be destroyed. They just took the same modeling software they use for global climate change and slapped a COVID-19 label on the top of it.

(Fortunately, Hillary used the same modeling software to predict her chances of being president...)

It is always going to be a failing of any wishcasting prediction when you pre-enter the desired result and then set the model to represent how it gets there. It doesn't represent reality, it represents the viewpoint of the programmer.

Oh, and with MOST of the world shut down, every greenie’s wet dream, CO2 levels went up. Gosh, yet another new record. Makes you wonder - is it the detector/analyzer following a wishcasting scenario, or is it simply not man made CO2? It's sad when you can't even trust what should be a very simple (and repeatable) measure...

44 posted on 05/27/2020 5:49:10 AM PDT by kingu (Everything starts with slashing the size and scope of the federal government.)
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To: JohnRand

Dwath of a Salesman.


45 posted on 05/27/2020 6:05:23 AM PDT by ScottinVA (Prayers up for Rush Limbaugh...)
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To: Salamander
Dwath Vader.

Somehow he sounds less intimidating.


46 posted on 05/27/2020 6:06:23 AM PDT by silent_jonny ("Forward to what lies ahead" ~ Phil. 3:13)
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To: outofsalt

PSSST.

The CDC and WHOstopped counting H1N1 deaths in 2009 once it hit global pandemic status. All deaths from 2009-2010 are estimates/guesses and they settled on the middle estimate between low and high.

Science? don’t look for it from these bureaucratic agencies.


47 posted on 05/27/2020 6:06:36 AM PDT by a fool in paradise (Joe Biden- "First thing I'd do is repeal those Trump tax cuts." (May 4th, 2019))
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To: Salamander
Dwath Vader??


48 posted on 05/27/2020 6:09:23 AM PDT by a fool in paradise (Joe Biden- "First thing I'd do is repeal those Trump tax cuts." (May 4th, 2019))
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To: dearolddad

The CDC thinks that 25 year olds are teenagers suffering from the disease of gun violence.


49 posted on 05/27/2020 6:10:35 AM PDT by a fool in paradise (Joe Biden- "First thing I'd do is repeal those Trump tax cuts." (May 4th, 2019))
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To: JohnRand
Oh, just wait. Just wait. The so-called "second wave" is what these leftist, communist, socialist, liberal dimocrats, One World Government Soro and Gates lovers, the Dimocrat Imbedded Pravda reporters (formerly the MSM), ALL are waiting, whining, praying to their false gods and to satan, for a massive deadly second wave to kill off the millions they claimed this would do in the first round. They are willing to totally destroy America to get their goals, THE DEFEAT OF DONALD TRUMP in the election and retaking the Senate, thus a total overthrow all that is good in this country, and of the US Constitution and take control forever over this Republic. CONTROL.

TOTAL CONTROL is what this is all about. Destruction of the Republic of the United States and the Constitution, a mere piece of worthless paper to them. They want it burned and gone!! They want to overthrow everything good about this nation and put in their communist, One World Government, ruled by the United Nations. THEN, either we submit to them and their demands or we will find ourselves in their gulags, patterned after the Soviet and North Korean models.

Our deaths will mean nothing to them as they want about 7 billion off the planet anyway for their Earth friendly 500 million projected population (See, the Georgia Guide Stones for all their wants and desires). ONLY THEY get to choose who gets to live and WHO MUST DIE!!! (That'd be us) This is about defeating Trump and finally, at last, forever, taking TOTAL CONTROL over America. I'd bet they would want to rename the country. There would certainly be NOTHING UNITED about these States after their final takeover.

50 posted on 05/27/2020 6:11:01 AM PDT by RetiredArmy (Friends at FR - Are you prepared to meet the LORD??? Do you KNOW Him? Do so today!)
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To: Spktyr

>> I’ve never heard of a Dwath. Is it some kind of dwarf or something?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/La_petite_mort


51 posted on 05/27/2020 6:12:19 AM PDT by a fool in paradise (Joe Biden- "First thing I'd do is repeal those Trump tax cuts." (May 4th, 2019))
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To: exDemMom

I simply do not and will not believe any of the numbers regarding this scam/sham which has been foisted on us and the rest of the world.

Unless and until EVERY American is tested for antibodies we cannot know who has had this virus and without that knowledge we cannot know the death rate or the recovery rate.

We have gone from a projected death rate of 3.4% to now at .3 and some “experts” believe it will end up being no worse than the average flu. We KNOW those most in danger and have for some time known and it is only those most in danger which should have been warned to stay in for their own safety.

We’ve been had, Dr and I’m amazed, truly amazed you have not yet seen this.


52 posted on 05/27/2020 6:12:23 AM PDT by billyboy15
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To: exDemMom
One of my greatest fears is that idiot governors thinking like you will continue to drive small business into the ground with unconstitutional closure orders, and that they will empower more 'gimme-dat' brown shirts to enforce 'contact tracing' and mandatory quarantines for 'possible exposure', all paid for from the taxes of people put out of work.

Take your government contact tracing and stuff it.

53 posted on 05/27/2020 6:12:28 AM PDT by Magnum44 (My comprehensive terrorism plan: Hunt them down and kill them.)
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To: SnuffaBolshevik

Well done! LOL!


54 posted on 05/27/2020 6:13:45 AM PDT by glennaro (Prager: "Until it's safe" means "Never"!)
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To: PubliusMM

Social conditioning for Stockholm Syndrome victims.

Isolate people from friends and family and Church.

Heavy rotation of panic porn propaganda (a visit to MSN.com will give you a daily dose of 5 different Coronavirus headlines every day when you land on the page).

Shepherd Fairey (Obama’s Hope and Change propagandist czar) has been contracted by the Ad Council to create Communist iconic poster/ad designs to get the global citizens to do their part and wear the mask.

Neighbors turn on neighbors and business owners to tattle to the civic authorities about “violations” to non-legislative crimes.

In social media the verbal beatdown of dissent came quick and hard. From roving gangs of people preaching the Party line to “assistance” from twitter and google to delete or denounce certain viewpoints.


55 posted on 05/27/2020 6:18:44 AM PDT by a fool in paradise (Joe Biden- "First thing I'd do is repeal those Trump tax cuts." (May 4th, 2019))
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To: billyboy15; exDemMom
exDemMom

ExDemMom's own data shows she is not a follower of any scientific method. When the data shows the projections were BS, she tries to twist/thread her theory to the data, with nothing but her pre-drawn conclusion to support, and use the excuse that the un-modeled 'lockdown' saved us all. Couldn't possibly be that the models were all wrong to begin with.

56 posted on 05/27/2020 6:19:05 AM PDT by Magnum44 (My comprehensive terrorism plan: Hunt them down and kill them.)
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To: exDemMom

Hockeystick!


57 posted on 05/27/2020 6:19:14 AM PDT by a fool in paradise (Joe Biden- "First thing I'd do is repeal those Trump tax cuts." (May 4th, 2019))
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To: MAGAthon

>>4 May: Guardian: US daily coronavirus deaths reportedly projected to double to 3,000 by June

3,000 babies aborted in the USA every day and not a word in the media against it. No efforts to save those lives or to take better precautions against unintended pregnancies. We are told that it’s no different than having tonsils removed. Some even call it a parasitic growth.


58 posted on 05/27/2020 6:20:58 AM PDT by a fool in paradise (Joe Biden- "First thing I'd do is repeal those Trump tax cuts." (May 4th, 2019))
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To: Candor7

Older voters tended to vote more conservative. The Left including Surgeon General Jocelyn Elders said that it’s long been time to ration healthcare (and other) money since old people drain funds and are just “gonna die anyway” whereas young people will be paying into Social Security rather than drawing on it.

And it’s horrendous that these people couldn’t see their loved ones as they lay dying.


59 posted on 05/27/2020 6:23:18 AM PDT by a fool in paradise (Joe Biden- "First thing I'd do is repeal those Trump tax cuts." (May 4th, 2019))
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To: exDemMom

“The article did NOT provide any evidence that the lock-downs didn’t work or were unnecessary. On the contrary, it acknowledged that those do, in fact, affect the rate of spread of disease.”

You are talking to the wind, a highly bias wind.


60 posted on 05/27/2020 6:24:04 AM PDT by DEPcom
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