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To: exDemMom; Magnum44

“According to the AP, the country is reporting one of the highest mortality rates from the virus of any country, with about 40 deaths per 100,000 people. The country’s unemployment rate stands at 7.9% and is expected to continue to rise.”

https://www.businessinsider.com/sweden-praises-coronavirus-strategy-despite-high-death-rate-2020-5

So, with everyone getting COVID in Sweden AND with no “Flatten The Curve” to help hospitals ever handle the waves of infected, Sweden can honestly show the world that on a worst case basis, only “0.0004” of any population will die from COVID.

Your assumptions and projections are both terrible.


41 posted on 05/27/2020 5:31:47 AM PDT by ConservativeMind (Trump: Befuddling Democrats, Republicans, and the Media for the benefit of the US and all mankind.)
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To: ConservativeMind

Sweden is not doing so well if we read the article.

“There is no full lockdown of Sweden, but many parts of the Swedish society have shut down.”

Wonder if this means there are a lot of areas in Sweden that is locking down.

“According to the AP, the country is reporting one of the highest mortality rates from the virus of any country”

I wonder if this means Sweden has the highest death rate compare to any other country in the world.

“And figures from Our World In Data, an online research publication based at the University of Oxford, indicated that Sweden recorded the most coronavirus deaths in Europe per capita over the seven days from May 12 to May 19.”

Define Per Capita Merriam-Websters: per unit of population : by or for each person

So does this mean Sweden has the most coronavirus deaths in Europe per million people over the seven days from May 12 to May 19.

“The country’s unemployment rate stands at 7.9% and is expected to continue to rise.”
Is the unemployment rate rising because Sweden lock down or did not lock down?

Data from Worldometer:
Sweden population: 10 Million
Sweden Deaths per 1M pop: 418

USA population: 330 Million with a higher population density in big cites like New York. The virus likes highly density cities. Sweden does not have highly populated cities like New York
USA Deaths per 1M pop: 304

Which is a better number for Deaths per 1M. The USA at 304 with lockdowns or Sweden with no national lockdown (note some areas shutdown without government orders) at 418.


67 posted on 05/27/2020 6:45:26 AM PDT by DEPcom
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To: ConservativeMind
“According to the AP, the country is reporting one of the highest mortality rates from the virus of any country, with about 40 deaths per 100,000 people. The country’s unemployment rate stands at 7.9% and is expected to continue to rise.”
https://www.businessinsider.com/sweden-praises-coronavirus-strategy-despite-high-death-rate-2020-5

So, with everyone getting COVID in Sweden AND with no “Flatten The Curve” to help hospitals ever handle the waves of infected, Sweden can honestly show the world that on a worst case basis, only “0.0004” of any population will die from COVID.

Your assumptions and projections are both terrible.

So, what you are showing me is that Sweden has not eradicated Covid-19 with its lack of quarantine measures. "Everyone" in Sweden has not contracted Covid-19, only 35,088 have as of this morning. That is 0.348% of the population. Even if herd immunity is (theoretically) possible with Covid-19, that is not even close to the number of people who would need immunity in order to establish herd immunity. On the other hand, the Swedish death rate from Covid-19 is unusually high at 12%. That is double the US death rate. And only 14% have recovered, compared to the 23% recovery rate in the US. When I look at the graph of daily cases in Sweden at the Johns Hopkins Covid-19 tracking website, I see that the spread has remained fairly constant through the month of May, in contrast to other countries with similar case numbers, where the spread has been dropping steadily this month.

Most blog writers, especially if they are staff for a news organization, are not scientists and do not know how to access, read, or interpret data. I might see a blog and use it as a guide to do further research within the medical literature, tracking sites, and so forth. But I would never take a blog as an authoritative source without verifying and validating the blogger's assertions. The story of Sweden and Covid-19 is not what the blogosphere has portrayed.

92 posted on 05/28/2020 8:17:32 AM PDT by exDemMom (Current visual of the hole the US continues to dig itself into: http://www.usdebtclock.org)
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