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Israeli doctor in Italy: We no longer help those over 60
Jerusalem Post ^ | MARCH 22, 2020 09:21 | By JERUSALEM POST STAFF

Posted on 03/22/2020 12:43:49 AM PDT by RomanSoldier19

Israeli medical doctor Gai Peleg told Israeli television that in northern Italy the orders are not to allow those over 60 access to respiratory machines

(Excerpt) Read more at jpost.com ...


TOPICS: Breaking News; Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: china; corona; coronavirus; deaths; elderly; europe; euthanasia; italy; populationcontrol; ventilators; virus; young
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To: RomanSoldier19

This is the inevitable result from a country that chose government to run their society.

In a free, capitalist society with no government enforced “barriers to entry”, individuals would be working feverishly to fill the void in health services to include building companies to build new health equipment and make-shift hospitals.

In Italy, which is a “mostly” socialist country, they let people die.

Kind of a sharp contrast between socialism and capitalism, eh? So, vote Donald J. Trump, folks. Bernie or Joey will kill us all...but slowly.

JoMa


21 posted on 03/22/2020 2:01:28 AM PDT by joma89 (Buy weapons and ammo, folks.)
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To: be-baw

https://www.propublica.org/article/the-myth-of-drug-expiration-dates

I am trying to find an article about old medicine found in a shuttered store in a western town - that stock received in the 1950’s -still in their shipping boxes, all expired decades ago. They were tested and almost everyone of them where over 90% still effective!

When I find the right article I will post it ... back to the hunt!


22 posted on 03/22/2020 2:16:00 AM PDT by Doctor DNA (retired)
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To: be-baw

Yes, but they got rid of it without replacing it.


23 posted on 03/22/2020 2:26:54 AM PDT by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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To: RomanSoldier19

60? Fornicate!!!


24 posted on 03/22/2020 2:33:27 AM PDT by NonValueAdded ("Sorry, your race card has been declined. Can you present any other form of argument?")
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To: krogers58

Israel is donating 6 million doses to the United States.


25 posted on 03/22/2020 2:38:12 AM PDT by HollyB
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To: PeteB570

My son was prescribed Atovaquone to keep on hand pending future work travel.


26 posted on 03/22/2020 2:40:49 AM PDT by HollyB
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To: noiseman
will you stop with the dramatics....nobody says this isn't a serious virus....questions remain on the tactics used on our citizenry....

because frankly, things are very quiet in my neck of the woods....

and if TPTB knew this was a particularly virus affecting the frail elderly, which was clearly evident in the nursing home near Seattle, why didn't they immediately close down the nursing homes and all senior facilities to visitors?.....no, they didn't....istead they just decided to close down everybody else.....

27 posted on 03/22/2020 2:43:54 AM PDT by cherry
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To: joma89

To be fair, Italy is also desperately trying to fill the gap with borrowed gear, makeshift hospitals, etc., and it’s not enough.

And it’s not just Italy doing this - there are reports that New York and other cities in the US are starting to do similar triage. There just isn’t enough resources to go around in many cities. Even capitalist societies take time to spin up production - and we handed most of ours to China, further handicapping us.


28 posted on 03/22/2020 2:51:03 AM PDT by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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To: cherry

Quite a few here, especially in the Flubros clique, say exactly that, that it is not serious at all, just a worse flu.


29 posted on 03/22/2020 2:51:45 AM PDT by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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To: cherry

Here in the Midwest, nursing homes/assisted living centers were the first to get shut down.


30 posted on 03/22/2020 2:53:36 AM PDT by 2111USMC (Aim Small Miss Small)
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To: Spktyr
Yes, but it is the 'rate' of spin-up that is drastically different between the two. In a free, capitalist society, free from government imposed barriers, one can bring new items to market much quicker. Not to mention, in a free society, we nurture capitalistic thinking so that individuals get up off their butts without being prompted to fill the gap, whatever that gap is.

How many people in Italy, right now, are sitting on their butt waiting for the 'government' to do something. Not everyone, of course, but too many. Italy is the bottom picture. Of course, this picture shows only two data points when the slide between capitalism and socialism to communism is a continuum.

JoMa


31 posted on 03/22/2020 3:05:25 AM PDT by joma89 (Buy weapons and ammo, folks.)
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To: RomanSoldier19

Age had nothing to do with it. Whole young families were welded or chained in.


32 posted on 03/22/2020 3:08:49 AM PDT by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now its your turn)
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To: joma89

Unfortunately, as has recently been demonstrated by the FDA, there are government imposed barriers here in the US too.

Friends in Italy say that their remaining medical device industry is trying to spin up, not waiting for the government, but it’s small and just like here was decimated by regulation and outsourcing to China.

It’s a shame because Italy still actually has a pretty good plastics industry.

On the other hand... I’m not sure a ventilator made with Magnetti Marelli electrics is the greatest idea in the world.


33 posted on 03/22/2020 3:11:59 AM PDT by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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To: Spktyr

There are only 60,000 ventilators in the US via new reports - NY says it has 5,000 but needs 30,000


34 posted on 03/22/2020 3:18:45 AM PDT by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now its your turn)
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To: Spktyr

Totally agree and I do not believe I ever noted that somehow the US is a capitalist society. It is not. I did note, instead, to vote for Donald J. Trump and not Bernie or Joey.

The US is somewhere closer to the bottom picture that I posted, and the FDA is a perfect example of that, as you noted.

So, now is the time to write that I have a favorite economist in Milton Friendman. He had alot to say about the FDA and said it should be abolished. I agree. See the video below:

https://www.dailymotion.com/video/x2mvj22

And on top of everything, my day is made since I was able to find a video posted somewhere other than YouTube.

JoMa


35 posted on 03/22/2020 3:20:30 AM PDT by joma89 (Buy weapons and ammo, folks.)
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To: RomanSoldier19

36 posted on 03/22/2020 3:21:46 AM PDT by Daffynition (*Mega Dittoes and Mega Prayers* & :))
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To: PIF

The number from last week was 80K, but I bet personnel have been dragging unused ventilators out of storage and finding some of them don’t work.


37 posted on 03/22/2020 3:24:36 AM PDT by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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To: krogers58

Bayer and Teva have donated millions of doses.

The Teva drugs are made in Israel.


38 posted on 03/22/2020 3:26:32 AM PDT by Jewbacca (The residents of Iroquois territory may not determine whether Jews may live in Jerusalem)
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To: RomanSoldier19

That class of malarial drug increases your risk of disseminated intravascular coagulation from far less than zero to.. we better stop manufacturing. DIC is not how you want your wives, daughters sons and daughters to go. Be wary of miracle drugs.


39 posted on 03/22/2020 3:36:01 AM PDT by momincombatboots (Ephesians 6... who you are really at war with)
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To: Doctor DNA

My cousin, Chuck worked for

searle / monsanto / pfizer

tells basically the same story.

Just have to slightly increase the dose.

7


40 posted on 03/22/2020 3:48:33 AM PDT by infool7 (When you have the Lord, nothing else is important and everything is fascinating!)
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