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Clinical course and outcomes of critically ill patients with SARS-CoV-2 pneumonia in Wuhan, China: a single-centered, retrospective, observational study
The Lancet ^ | 24 Feb 2020 | Xiaobo Yang, et al

Posted on 02/24/2020 9:47:42 PM PST by datura

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To: BenLurkin

The first US case here in Washington was only 33 years old, and was on a ventilator after only a few days. He was “cured” by the Ebola drug, but no one ever hears about him now that he left the hospital.


21 posted on 02/24/2020 10:25:47 PM PST by datura
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To: datura; bitt; LucyT

Thank you for finding and posting this!

http://freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3819266/posts?page=1#1

Ping to study done in Wuhan on the virus.


22 posted on 02/24/2020 10:26:14 PM PST by WildHighlander57 ((WildHighlander57 returning after lurking since 2000)
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“The living will envy the dead...”


23 posted on 02/24/2020 10:28:53 PM PST by proust (Justice delayed is injustice.)
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To: grey_whiskers

Well I think I look great in my Uniform :)

Nah, I just don’t worry like a little girl. Or an average FReeper lately :)


24 posted on 02/24/2020 10:32:00 PM PST by dp0622 (Radicals, racists Don't point finger at me I'm a small town white boy Just tryin' to makne ends meet)
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To: grey_whiskers

I have to ask. Do some of you WANT this thing to explode?

It’s like a number of you are virus concern trolls.

It’s an odd phenomenon.


25 posted on 02/24/2020 10:32:53 PM PST by dp0622 (Radicals, racists Don't point finger at me I'm a small town white boy Just tryin' to makne ends meet)
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To: datura

Good grief so go cry like a little girl with the rest of the fruits on here crying.

I’ll send you tissues if you give me an address :)


26 posted on 02/24/2020 10:33:52 PM PST by dp0622 (Radicals, racists Don't point finger at me I'm a small town white boy Just tryin' to makne ends meet)
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To: dp0622
Because the death rate outside of China is incredibly low. It’s a flu.

Flu mortality rate is .07% Corona is between 20x and 40x that. Italy is at 3% so far. Korea is at 1%, which is still 14x deadlier than the flu. It will be low in the US until the hospitals are full, which won't take much of an outbreak if it gets onshore. No matter how you parse, much much worse than the flu.


27 posted on 02/24/2020 10:36:16 PM PST by Wayne07
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To: datura
"The common cold, Rush? Not at all. "

The common cold? No, it's not.

The Hollywood zombie apocalypse that some in the media/interwebs seems to think it is? No, it's not.

Else, after 3-4+ months "on the loose", this (perhaps) lab created, (perhaps) natural mutation would have killed 10's of thousands in this country alone.

There have been 18 death's of people in 1st world healthcare countries. How many of those 18 were from the 3rd world to begin with? Tomorrow, there will be more. The next week, more still. The month after, yet more.

18. As of now. 1st world. Vast majority, not young/healthy.

18.

Not even remotely infinitesimally close to to the 10's of thousands that die in 1st world health care countries from influenza every year. Not even in the same universe.

Perspective.

If even, within the next 6 months time, a "mere" 1,000 die in this country, the USA, from Covid 19 (vs ten times more from influenza), the media/academia/Hollywood/etc will blame Trump 24x7 and he looses a critical portion of the more "reasonable" (D)'s and independents support.

I'm hopeful that calming minds and voices, like our President's, help to steer our country clear of an economic meltdown inspired by ignorance and fear that will cause the 50%+ less intelligent/less informed among us to feel they need to vote for the socialist that is talking about "free" healthcare.

Remain vigilant, as always, regardless...but for our country's sake, don't panic.

18.

28 posted on 02/24/2020 10:39:42 PM PST by rxsid (HOW CAN A NATURAL BORN CITIZEN'S STATUS BE "GOVERNED" BY GREAT BRITAIN? - Leo Donofrio (2009))
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To: datura

The above study suggests only about 7% end up in ICU.

In a city of 1 million, that would be 70,000.

I wonder if there are even 70,000 ICU beds in the whole country?

Tent hospitals on military installations and strident quarantine are likely on tomorrow’s agenda in front of the Senate. Either real planning, or as a contingency.

My guess is it is real planning and team formation and purchasing will start immediately. Hierarchy and authorities assigned. Goals established.

Anything else would be derelict.

This virus is apparently very dangerous with an R naught of around 2.5. And it kills something above 1% of those who get it.

It’s a threat at least as dire as the Spanish Flu of 1918. But in a world of instantaneous worldwide communication, video and general reliance on government for everything.

Expectations of Uncle Sam will be extraordinarily high.

Health systems will fail. Some governments will fall. The world economy will go to sh!t.


29 posted on 02/24/2020 10:39:49 PM PST by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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To: dp0622

All hat and no cattle, and even less reading comprehension.

Better to keep your alligator mouth shut instead of letting it overrun your hummingbird ass.

You don’t intimidate me one damn bit.


30 posted on 02/24/2020 10:41:03 PM PST by datura
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To: Wayne07
Since it's much worse than the flu, we should expect 10,000+ x 20 (or x40) deaths in the United States this year alone.

200,000 - 400,000 deaths are what people are telling us to fear. In our country alone.

If there are 200,000 - 400,000 deaths in the U.S. this year alone, every city in our country would be quarantined, Trump is not our president in 2021, our economy crashes worse than the great depression and we are truly screwed. Big time. Majorly.

31 posted on 02/24/2020 10:46:40 PM PST by rxsid (HOW CAN A NATURAL BORN CITIZEN'S STATUS BE "GOVERNED" BY GREAT BRITAIN? - Leo Donofrio (2009))
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To: datura

“...28 day mortality for ICU patients.”

Years ago I was out working long days in the field, was on the third straight week of 14 hour days. I ended up getting a staph infection in my hand that laid me up in the little small-town hospital for three days.

That was almost a mini-vacation other than the I.V. drip antibiotics. 28 days of labored breathing, fever, having a reasonable fear that you will die, and if not, probably be damaged for life? No thanks!


32 posted on 02/24/2020 10:48:42 PM PST by 21twelve (Ever Vigilant. Never Fearful.)
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To: Mariner
Maybe he doesn’t want to foretell outcome scenarios to avoid panic?

Oh stop! you're scaring me. You said the tax reform would kill us all, yet we survived that. I think we'll survive this. Take a chill pill.
33 posted on 02/24/2020 10:48:42 PM PST by JoSixChip (I'm an American Nationalist)
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To: 21twelve

There is no such thing as “rest” in a hospital..... Glad you recovered!


34 posted on 02/24/2020 10:51:44 PM PST by datura
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To: rxsid
If there are 200,000 - 400,000 deaths in the U.S. this year alone, every city in our country would be quarantined, Trump is not our president in 2021, our economy crashes worse than the great depression and we are truly screwed. Big time. Majorly.

The end is near!!! Get a grip, this happens every other year. It will run it's course and will be on to COVID-20 in no time.
35 posted on 02/24/2020 10:53:25 PM PST by JoSixChip (I'm an American Nationalist)
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To: dp0622

It’s already exploded in China; and right on the edge in Iran and Italy.

If you bother to read the scientific papers on it...it’s f***ing scary.


36 posted on 02/24/2020 10:54:37 PM PST by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change with out notice.)
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To: JoSixChip

I truly hope you are right - we have the advantages of better hygiene, distance between people, clean air, and clean water. Our rate of heavy smoking is very small. We wash our hands.

We generally do not live in giant apartment towers where we share air handling and drain vents with lots of other people.

Our only disadvantage is that we get our medicines from China...


37 posted on 02/24/2020 10:57:11 PM PST by datura
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To: rxsid

In the 1918 flu about 680,000 people in the USA died (18 months duration). Of course, we had the “Roaring 20’s” shortly afterwards. That seems surprising - although prosperity in the 20’s may have been overridden by the end of the war.

I am of the opinion that the war was “called” on account of the flu. Both sides had lost so many young fighting men to the flu.

BTW - the Hong Kong models and the Los Alamos Labs models predicted MUCH higher numbers than what China is reporting. For once in my life I’m putting more trust in the models than the “data” that China is providing.


38 posted on 02/24/2020 10:58:14 PM PST by 21twelve (Ever Vigilant. Never Fearful.)
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And for record....

The CDC estimates between 16,000 and 41,000 deaths in the United States due to influenza.

That means we should "expect" between 320,000 to 820,000 (20x) to 640,000 to 1,640,000 (40x) deaths in the United States from Corvid 19.

A million deaths in the U.S. this year alone? And there hasn't been a single death yet in the U.S. after months of intercontinental travel?

The hysteria would be more then even Hollywood could imagine. Our country would be in a world class cluster F (to say nothing of the rest of the world).

39 posted on 02/24/2020 10:58:41 PM PST by rxsid (HOW CAN A NATURAL BORN CITIZEN'S STATUS BE "GOVERNED" BY GREAT BRITAIN? - Leo Donofrio (2009))
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To: datura
Our only disadvantage is that we get our medicines from China.

That is the real emergency.
40 posted on 02/24/2020 10:59:33 PM PST by JoSixChip (I'm an American Nationalist)
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