Clinical course and outcomes of critically ill patients with SARS-CoV-2 pneumonia in Wuhan, China: a single-centered, retrospective, observational study

The Lancet ^ | 24 Feb 2020 | Xiaobo Yang, et al

[whershey]

Steroid use with ARDS is usually routine, but from what I’ve read it’s usually counter-productive with this virus so it’s kind of fallen into a last resort category.

[mewzilla]

Not censored?

How do we know that?

[VTenigma]

(71%) patients required mechanical ventilation.

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We’re going to need a bigger ventilator factory, right?

[tinyowl]

To anybody: Google (just searched for about 3 minutes) doesn't quickly pull up a death rate for flu, but it looks like about 80,000 in 4 million yearly around the 2017, 2018 time frame (I think that's U.S. ), or about 2%, or about the same as Corona seems to be.

Is that about the right number/percentage - those who know?

Thanks!

[BuckeyeGOP]

Glad I left my canned goods and bottled water in the basement last time Glenn Beck told me society was about to collapse because of the birdflu...
...or was that SARS?....oh wait maybe it was because of the great economic collapse of January 2018.

...oh well, either way.

[unread]

I see NO South American countries listed... Gee, I wonder why..... :(

[DAC21]

“South Korea 893 infected, 9 deaths, 6 critical, 22 recovered

Do you see odds like that for flu? No.

That’s almost 10% mortality in a first world nation. Or one squad in a battalion on a five day exercise”

Math major? It’s 1%

[Uncle Miltie]

“32 (61·5%) patients had died at 28 days”

Thirty two, not twenty, died.

That is 4.5% = 32 / 710.

[Svartalfiar]

28 day mortality for ICU patients.

That's after ICU admission. How long were they coughing before they went to the hospital? How long were they in a regular room before moving to ICU?

That gives us what, average five (or six) weeks from infection to death? And they've got everybody on a 14-day quarantine? No wonder the cruise ship kept having more cases pop up every couple days. It probably wasn't much continuous infection with everyone stuck in their room, almost everyone was already infected when quarantine began, from all the partying prior.

[Svartalfiar]

In sum, 20 of the original 710 ultimately died. 2.8% mortality. indeed is higher than “the common cold.”

As of right now, the Johns Hopkins tracker shows 45 non-China deaths (I am including HongKong/Singapore here), and 254 recoveries. That gives us a current non-Chinese fatality rate of 45 / (45 + 254) = 15%.

Which, is another indicator that the Chinese numbers are bullshit, because with their pollution issues, smoking rates, and crappy/overloaded medical facilities, there's absolutely no way China has a lower rate than the rest of the world. (China's is officially 9.1%.)

[Svartalfiar]

Because the death rate outside of China is incredibly low. It’s a flu.

Um, look at my post above, but the current numbers from Johns Hopkins put the non-China mortality rate at 15%.

[DouglasKC]

Thanks for this....

[Svartalfiar]

This virus is apparently very dangerous with an R naught of around 2.5. And it kills something above 1% of those who get it.

Where are you pulling numbers from? The current mortality rate is 9.1%, if you trust the Chinese numbers. Probably much higher.