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Bernie Sanders possibly running against President Trump is starting to scare investors: strategist
Yahoo Finance ^ | 21 February 2020 | Brian Sozzi

Posted on 02/23/2020 4:48:42 AM PST by MeneMeneTekelUpharsin

There is a growing undercurrent in markets that say a battle this fall between self-described socialist Senator Bernie Sanders and President Donald Trump could be bad news for stock prices. As evidenced by the market’s strong run-up in 2020, investors have yet to exit stocks on fears of a big government Bernie winning the Oval Office. But his continued strong showing in debates and national polls may lead to some profit-taking sooner rather than later. The concern - Sanders shocks the market-friendly Trump.

“There is definitely kind of fear [among clients] if you get a candidate like Sanders or say Elizabeth Warren,” said UBS global investment strategist Jason Draho on Yahoo Finance’s The First Trade. For now, the Sanders surge is keeping a lid on the market potential argues Draho. “It’s more of a headwind that keeps markets from rising higher,” Draho noted.

Sanders is viewed by most rainmakers on Wall Street as anti-big business, anti-stock market and anti-wealth creation. In other words, bad for risk-taking in numerous asset classes, save for perhaps gold and bitcoin.

(Excerpt) Read more at finance.yahoo.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Miscellaneous; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: economy; sanders; trump; wallstreet
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To: cgbg

on a contested brokered convention the dems will go with the least qualified candidate - Buttpackme, who will go on with massive cheating to beat DJT (following the Wisconsin model) cause people are tired of hearing about how awful DJT is, pleased to elect the first fagot to the white hut and, be generally smug and self-important as they were in WI when they elected the least qualified candidate, radical leftist Evers governor, thus destroying a state which led to nation in job growth, unemployment and lowered taxes among others.


41 posted on 02/23/2020 5:49:35 AM PST by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now its your turn)
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To: A_Former_Democrat

Billionaire + Bolshevik = Diversity. It’s like a Neil Simon play. It’s just kooky crazy enough to work.


42 posted on 02/23/2020 5:49:53 AM PST by Sirius Lee (They are openly stating that they intend to murder us. Prep if you want to live.)
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To: nwrep
4. The McGovern platform was out of step with the America and even the Democrats of 1972. The Bernie platform is the catechism and creed of modern liberalism Communism.
43 posted on 02/23/2020 5:52:04 AM PST by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now its your turn)
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To: MeneMeneTekelUpharsin

Buy gold.


44 posted on 02/23/2020 5:53:43 AM PST by humbleexpert
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To: PIF

A queer will not be elected president of the United States


45 posted on 02/23/2020 5:55:46 AM PST by bert ( (KE. NP. N.C. +12) Progressives are existential American enemies)
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To: jstolzen

Did those polls break the vote down by battleground states? We know Sanders will win California, New York and some solid blue states. The election hinges on rust belt states like Pennsylannia and Wisconsin.


46 posted on 02/23/2020 5:56:33 AM PST by kaintucky
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To: albie

Because Trump’s campaign has spent a year preparing to run against Sanders or Warren. They painted this campaign as a battle between freedom and socialism at the 2019 Stat of the Union. The trap is set.

Sanders cannot win any swing states. None. It will be as close to a landslide as we will see by a Republican in today’s landscape.


47 posted on 02/23/2020 6:01:25 AM PST by ilgipper (The mob only destroys. Never creates.)
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To: albie

“I’m confused. Bernie is the preferred choice to run against Trump by conservatives. Why is that”

The American electorate is right of center. You can’t get much to the Left of Bernie, although the other candidates are trying. Even the Democrats see Bernie as a disaster in the making. To win, Bernie would require a record turnout of his base and the middle. Typically, the Democratic winner campaigns on the Left and then tact’s center for the main event. That is not possible for Bernie. So, the middle voters will not turn out for him.

The Democratic caucus turnout is anemic. In Nevada just 100,000 voted when the state has over 3.5 million. The turnout was significantly down from 2016.

On the personality side, Bernie makes Trump look like Robin Williams. Trump is already well above average on the personality and likability scales while Bernie is the angry old man shaking his cane at kids and yelling for them to get off his lawn.

Personally, I would like to see the Democrats nominate someone reasonable, in case a meteor hits and he wins. I think the last good Democratic candidate was Truman. They no longer have “reasonable” in their DNA.


48 posted on 02/23/2020 6:02:34 AM PST by Gen.Blather
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To: MeneMeneTekelUpharsin
Trying to set the stage...to help the Dems dump Bernie as early as possible so any downturns in the Market as the elections near don't prove how bad the Dem candidates are - I'd wager if any of them look strong (according to pollspropaganda) around September, the Market will "take a break"...
49 posted on 02/23/2020 6:04:12 AM PST by trebb (Don't howl about illegal leeches, or Trump in general, while not donating to FR - it's hypocritical.)
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To: central_va

Simmer down. We ALL want to fight - and will. But fooling ourselves that someone like Sanders “can’t possibly” win is willfully ignorant of the current state of the country, also.

What was the stat the other day - something like 43% (?!!) of the country is just fine with socialism.

I never thought we’d get to that point. Decades of leftist indoctrination in our schools, universities, media and news has done some serious damage to America’s traditional values.

I agree this is the fight of a lifetime, and we can’t afford to lose it. But let’s not get cocky, either, just because we are sure Bernie “can’t” win - he can, just like Barack did. And God help us if he does.


50 posted on 02/23/2020 6:08:58 AM PST by jstolzen
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To: MeneMeneTekelUpharsin

Calling Captian Obvious, I’d say.

If (God forbid) a Dem were to win, the least devastating to business would be either Bloomberg or Klobuchar. Bloomberg, because he understands the role of business, despite his anti-gun and nanny-control tendencies; and Klobuchar, because she’d be the least effective at implementing anything, IMHO.


51 posted on 02/23/2020 6:11:05 AM PST by Pearls Before Swine
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To: nwrep

Bernie might win the rat nomination but he won’t win the general election. He is getting the majority of his support right now during the caucus. He won’t pick up much more support in the general election.


52 posted on 02/23/2020 6:15:17 AM PST by Rdct29 (Democrats are the new Nazi's. They think they deserve total control over the people)
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To: jstolzen

Agreed. Bernie absolutely could win in a general election. My criminal neighbors would vote for anyone...and I mean anyone...with a D after their name.

The only thing to do is prepare. Bug weapons and ammo, food stocks, water etc. The deep state has too many tools at its disposal, to include paying a murderous thug to knife you in the supermarket.

The deep state will not and does not have to fight fair. Just look at the two tiered legal system that was shown so clearly between how Roger Stone and andrew mccabe were treated.

Lawfare is the deep state’s chosen weapon of war at this time.

JoMa


53 posted on 02/23/2020 6:17:00 AM PST by joma89 (Buy weapons and ammo, folks.)
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To: MeneMeneTekelUpharsin

Hogwash. Investors are far more capable of running the numbers to know Bernie the Communist hasn’t got a prayer.


54 posted on 02/23/2020 6:20:12 AM PST by CodeToad (Arm Up! They Have!)
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To: bert

One day, one will be elected. Just look at the country of Ireland. And when that happens, Christians in the USA will be persecuted (and prosecuted) using the full force of government like during no other time in our country’s history.

JoMa


55 posted on 02/23/2020 6:20:42 AM PST by joma89 (Buy weapons and ammo, folks.)
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To: jstolzen
And we said the same thing about some guy named Barack.

Completely different situation. Obama was a unifying candidate. Every faction inside the heavily divided Democrat party agreed to a truce, and supported Obama (a minor sect of Hillary supporters excepted -- far too small in number to matter).

Sanders, on the other hand, takes a sledgehammer to the already fractured party. He has about ~30% of (a shrinking) the shrinking Democratic base fully energized for him; 30% disliking him, but who will probably end up supporting him, albeit not particularly passionately (don't expect 100% turnout among this group); the rest are scared of him, oppose him, and hate him. They may not vote for Trump, but they are NOT going to vote in the kind of amounts he needs.

Obama, on the other hand was a turnout machine. He also appealed to independents (with Sanders, independents will go a minimum 4:1 for Trump). Even a sizeable chunk of Republicans liked Obama. Romney, and McCain, meanwhile, were pretty much the antonym for "turnout machine". Even their "base" could only barely tolerate them.

Sanders would lose the general. He would lose badly. He would lose so badly the Republicans would handily win the house. Sanders would lose states that haven't been competitive in 30 years. Sanders' loss would have negative consequences for the Democrats for a generation. Sanders could even permanently divide the Democratic party (a party made up of groups that neither like, nor trust, each other).

Sanders cannot win. 0%. Not even .01%.
56 posted on 02/23/2020 6:21:08 AM PST by Excubiae
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To: jstolzen
This is going to be epic!!! Bernie can't win.

Scared hapless losers don't turn out to vote. Happy, confident people do - they want to vote FOR something.

57 posted on 02/23/2020 6:21:28 AM PST by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: cgbg
"Bernie is my preferred choice to “almost” get the nomination.

I want it stolen from him at the last second by the DNC—so the party of evil goes up in flames for a generation."

Wouldn't that be wonderful? And Mini-Mike is the only one able to buy the DNC, who demonstrated their willingness to sell themselves to Hillary in the last election.

58 posted on 02/23/2020 6:21:35 AM PST by MV=PY (The Magic Question: Who's paying for it?)
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To: Excubiae

Hope you’re right..but the country has swung even farther to the left since Obama than I would have ever though possible..just look at the popularity of loony tunes characters like AOC and some of the truly whacky ideas (GND, for instance) they espouse..


59 posted on 02/23/2020 6:27:33 AM PST by jstolzen
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To: jstolzen
the popularity of loony tunes characters like AOC and some of the truly whacky ideas (GND, for instance) they espouse..

There is no evidence that AOC has any popularity whatsoever. She is a media creation. She won a primary in a heavily democrat (and latino) district against an old white guy. At that point, the seat was hers, since Republicans have no chance there. There is no evidence at all that her support is any greater than ~20% of the Democratic party (which makes up ~30% of registered voters, which are, I believe, about 1/2 of all adults). So her support might be about 3% of the population as a whole. That is probably an exaggeration, because her name recognition alone is a max of 20% (most people don't follow politics that heavily).

She is not popular. Trump is popular. AOC is the gunk on the bottom of your shoe. If you happen to notice her, she is a mild irritant, nothing more.
60 posted on 02/23/2020 6:33:39 AM PST by Excubiae
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