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Empty Egg Carton: Why have western women stopped having babies? - (Paul Joseph Watson)
Youtube ^ | Jan 28, 2020 | Paul Joseph Watson

Posted on 01/29/2020 10:46:28 AM PST by yesthatjallen

Empty Egg Carton: Why have western women stopped having babies?

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Empty Egg Carton: Why have western women stopped having babies?


TOPICS: News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: 2mucheffort; birthrate; deathofthewest
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To: qam1; yesthatjallen
Just a brief comment. Mexicans are not a problem. They're a valuable as anyone else, viva Mexico. However, illegal Mexican intruders and invaders on the wrong side of the border, are a problem.

And by the way,the Mexican Total Fertility rate is just a whisker above replacement: 2.2. The replacement TFR is 2.1.

61 posted on 01/29/2020 12:27:40 PM PST by Mrs. Don-o (A baby is God's opinion that life should go on.)
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To: Secret Agent Man; yesthatjallen
American women sure have NOT kept having babies. The TOTAL Fertility rate for USA is 1.8, well below "Zero Population Growth."

And if you subtract immigrants and the first gen children of immigrants, it's way, way below that. Native-born non-immigrant Americans have been falling short of replacing themselves via childbearing for the past 40-50 years.

The ideology was women-in-the-workplace cuz homemakers are, they tell us, parasites. The necessary enabling technology? The Pill.

62 posted on 01/29/2020 12:43:11 PM PST by Mrs. Don-o (A baby is God's opinion that life should go on.)
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To: SanchoP
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63 posted on 01/29/2020 12:44:42 PM PST by Mrs. Don-o ("I ain't denyin' the women are foolish. The Good Lord made 'em to match the men.")
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To: Secret Agent Man
"Costs for raising a kid today, 250 grand per kid."

That's scare propaganda. Straddling the 20th-21st century, my husband and I raised 2 kids on orders-of-magnitude less than that.

One paid for his own post-secondary education, the other did not go to college. That's probably the biggest factor.

64 posted on 01/29/2020 12:48:18 PM PST by Mrs. Don-o ("I ain't denyin' the women are foolish. The Good Lord made 'em to match the men.")
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To: Mrs. Don-o

yes that may be part of that figure. the hospital birth costs are also part of that figure.

but its a figure spread across 18 years. so thats roughly 13 grand a year, for everything needed. $1100 a month.


65 posted on 01/29/2020 12:56:00 PM PST by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; Not Averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: setter
Yes, I can compare.

They build SMALLER houses in nice neighborhoods. You don't need 5 bedrooms, just because you have 4 kids.

Healthcare costs have outpaced incomes, but not by the margins you suggest.

Nobody NEEDS to attend a 4 year school for 4 years of college.

The price of goods is NOT exponentially higher than salary increases.

66 posted on 01/29/2020 12:57:16 PM PST by G Larry (There is no great virtue in bargaining with the Devil)
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To: G Larry; Buckeye McFrog; married21; setter
It's not a matter of income. It's a matter of values.

U.S. Dept of Labor stats indicate, just for instance, that homeschooling families (and they tend to be multiparous) are represented at every level of income in the U.S. Every level of income. Think of that.

There are families at $150,000 a year that think they can't afford more than two, and families at $35,000 a year that have five.

Yeah, they re-gift their Christmas presents and shop for the cheaper cuts of macaroni. Nothing wrong with that.

67 posted on 01/29/2020 1:00:24 PM PST by Mrs. Don-o (The most splendid and generous gift you can give your child, is brothers and sisters.)
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To: yesthatjallen

Candy bar used to be .5 cents per eight hours work.


68 posted on 01/29/2020 1:01:36 PM PST by Varsity Flight (Mr. President, We the People, have your back.)
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To: Varsity Flight

One bedroom per child has become the rule in real estate. I am not sure why as when I was young a lot of my friends used bunk beds. Very common.


69 posted on 01/29/2020 1:14:49 PM PST by buffaloguy
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To: boomop1
Don't know about Muslims, but Mexicans in Mexico at 2.2 Total Fertility Rate are just a whisker above replacement, and Mexicans in the USA generally see a slight decline--- not an increase --- in childbearing patterns.

This holds true for Mexicans, not necessarily other Central American and South American immigrants. Honduras TFR = 2.5, Nicaragua = 2.4.

"Replacement" is 2.1.

70 posted on 01/29/2020 1:15:36 PM PST by Mrs. Don-o (The most splendid and generous gift you can give your child, is brothers and sisters.)
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To: buffaloguy

The happiest day of my life was when I got my own bedroom, and I didn’t have to share it with my brother anymore.


71 posted on 01/29/2020 1:16:28 PM PST by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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To: Mrs. Don-o

“and families at $35,000 a year that have five.”

You cannot raise 5 kids on $35k per year. Impossible.

That is below family poverty levels.

My wife and I are in our late 50’s. We have zero debt.

Our annual fixed cost is almost 50k per year. Health, car, home insurance, property taxes, utilities, maintence on and on.

Our health insurance is $1900 per month alone= $22,800 per year.


72 posted on 01/29/2020 1:16:41 PM PST by setter
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To: Secret Agent Man
But if the Social-Security-type "Ponzis" fail, the ones who suffer will not be the people who designed them and set them up, but the people who have been paying into them all their lives.

You shouldn't be too chipper about older Americans' future destitution.

73 posted on 01/29/2020 1:18:14 PM PST by Mrs. Don-o (The most splendid and generous gift you can give your child, is brothers and sisters.)
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To: G Larry

As I mentioned in a later post it also depends where you live.


74 posted on 01/29/2020 1:21:59 PM PST by setter
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To: Buckeye McFrog

That’s a valid concern....but what about all the legions of women who followed the message put forth by feminists that they could have it all and thus put education and career first only to discover in the mid 30s that men were no longer interested? Acting on the idea that they would have a choice later....that it was only their decision that matters/that it doesn’t take two to tango and that the desires of men do not matter....has been and continues to be a disaster for many women.


75 posted on 01/29/2020 1:32:10 PM PST by FLT-bird
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To: buffaloguy
One bedroom per child has become the rule in real estate. I am not sure why as when I was young a lot of my friends used bunk beds. Very common.

In ultra-Orthodox Jewish homes, bunks are VERY common. Hassidic Jews, especially, have very high birthrates; ten children is not unusual. In fact, they would wonder about you if you "only" have four.

In Judaism children are considered a blessing. Also, the community helps its own -- huge number of charities & services.

To be sure, some do use birth control, mainly to space children apart. But ultra-Orthodox Jews have religious incentive to reproduce -- and there lies the rub. Without a culture of marriage and children, and culture of mutual aid, singlehood will be the norm.

76 posted on 01/29/2020 1:32:38 PM PST by MoochPooch (I'm a compassionate cynic.)
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To: setter

“You cannot raise 5 kids on $35k per year. Impossible.”

I know families with nine children and they don’t make more than $70,000 a year. In fact, I knew a family 8 years ago where the total salary was $55,000 a year and they had 8 kids already and one on the way. It’s amazing what you can do in certain parts of the country.


77 posted on 01/29/2020 1:34:35 PM PST by vladimir998 ( Apparently I'm still living in your head rent free. At least now it isn't empty.)
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To: setter; Antoninus
That's what I mean by income vs values.

If you choose to live in San Jose or Frisco-Oakland or Boston-Cambridge or DC-Alexandria-Arlington or Denver-Aurora-Lakewood, you and your spouse will spend the whole rest of your life paying for your house, you and your spouse will have very little time for each other let alone a goodly crew of kidlets, and you'll never have much of a family life.

On the other hand, choose to live in KCMO or Dayton OH, or where we are, Tri-Cities TN, and you will pay literally 1/10 that amount for a decent house in a decent neighborhood, and for top quality schooling the parochial school is fine, or for maximum satisfaction, be a Mater et Magistra, have tons of fun and teach your own.

Because you can do it all on one salary.

"You pays yr money an' you takes yr choice."

78 posted on 01/29/2020 1:42:04 PM PST by Mrs. Don-o (The most splendid and generous gift you can give your child, is brothers and sisters.)
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To: G Larry

Saw this yesterday.

Brilliant video.


79 posted on 01/29/2020 1:48:25 PM PST by sauropod (If women are upset at TrumpÂ’s naughty words, who bought 80 million copies of 50 Shades of Grey?)
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To: setter
You cannot live in her area on a less than 6 figure salary. it’s impossible.

Then she should move. We are managing to do it in New Jersey. I don't have to tell you what the cost of living is here, do I?
80 posted on 01/29/2020 2:04:37 PM PST by Antoninus ("In Washington, swamp drain you.")
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