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Mystery lab next to coronavirus epicentre
News Corp Australia ^ | January 29, 2020 11:37am | Jamie Seidel

Posted on 01/28/2020 8:11:30 PM PST by Zhang Fei

It may just be a coincidence.

But the deadly coronavirus outbreak now sweeping the world began 30km from China’s most advanced viral research laboratories – the Wuhan Institute.

The Washington Times quoted former Israeli intelligence officer Dany Shoham as claiming The Wuhan Institute of Virology is part of a secret biological weapons program.

“Certain laboratories in the institute have probably been engaged, in terms of research and development, in Chinese (biological weapons), at least collaterally, yet not as a principal facility,” he asserted without corroborating evidence.

Mr Shoham says he was a Mossad lieutenant colonel specialist in biological and chemical warfare. But so far he’s the only apparent expert to make such a link.

Similar stories have begun circulating in China.

Only there, the claims — which are not censored under China’s strict information management regime — assert the virus is the result of a US germ warfare conspiracy.

“There is no evidence that it was a bioweapon, and any claims that it is wilfully spreads misinformation and is incredibly irresponsible,” warns MIT security studies professor Vipin Narang.

China already stands accused of breaching international treaties and engaging in biological weapons research.

“Information indicates that the People’s Republic of China engaged during the reporting period in biological activities with potential dual-use applications, which raises concerns regarding its compliance with the BWC,” the 2019 annual US State Department report on China’s arms treaty compliance warns.

“The United States has compliance concerns with respect to Chinese military medical institutions’ toxin research and development because of the potential dual-use applications and their potential as a biological threat.”

But Prof Narang doubts the 2019-nCoV virus is an escaped bioweapon: “It would be a terrible bioweapon because of blowback. A good bioweapon, in theory, has high lethality but low, not high, communicability.”

(Excerpt) Read more at news.com.au ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Extended News; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: 2019ncov; asia; cdc; china; coronavirus; disease; flu; kag; maga; trump; virus
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To: BobL
...that is a weapon, and a bad one.

I doubt that this version of the virus is a weapon.

More likely it was an early attempt at manipulating a virus feedstock for virulence against specific ethnic groups (non-Han Chinese). There are some reportedly peculiar inserts to the core of this virus which do not appear to have been the result of natural recombination.

The Chinese have openly described in their military journals a "hypothetical" scenario in which the North American continent was depopulated by a plague which only affected Europeans, then resettled by Han Chinese.

Perhaps their scientists were working on creating such a virus.

If so, perhaps the project did not work as planned. And the virus may have gotten loose from the lab due to careless handling.

Oops!

Sounds like the plot for a novel that I have read before.

61 posted on 01/28/2020 10:08:57 PM PST by flamberge (The wheels keep turning)
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To: Zhang Fei
Report: White House Considering Temporary Ban on All U.S.-China Flights Amid Coronavirus Outbreak
Tom McKay
23 minutes ago
https://gizmodo.com/report-white-house-considering-temporary-ban-on-all-fl-1841319561

Monkey kidneys and old-school science: Inside Melbourne's coronavirus breakthrough
By Liam Mannix
January 29, 2020 — 4.51pm
https://www.smh.com.au/national/monkey-kidneys-and-old-school-science-inside-melbourne-s-coronavirus-breakthrough-20200129-p53vuy.html

62 posted on 01/28/2020 10:11:05 PM PST by familyop ("Welcome to Costco. I love you." - -Costco greeter in the movie, "Idiocracy")
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To: Zhang Fei

Wuhan seafood market may not be only source of novel coronavirus: expert
Xinhua
http://en.people.cn/n3/2020/0129/c90000-9652392.html


63 posted on 01/28/2020 10:15:07 PM PST by familyop ("Welcome to Costco. I love you." - -Costco greeter in the movie, "Idiocracy")
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To: Zhang Fei

What’s a “defensive” bio weapon?


64 posted on 01/28/2020 10:20:49 PM PST by wastedyears (The left would kill every single one of us and our families if they knew they could get away with it)
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To: wastedyears

[What’s a “defensive” bio weapon?]


The folks at Fort Detrick research defenses against bio-weapons. I assume they look at things like quarantines, drug cocktails, logistical details, drug stockpiles and possibly this last resort:

https://youtu.be/lO2-YxWkRxk

They probably also discuss getting the nation’s medicos and drug researchers together to work on counter-measures.


65 posted on 01/28/2020 10:50:05 PM PST by Zhang Fei (My dad had a Delta 88. That was a car. It was like driving your living room.)
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To: wastedyears

[They probably also discuss getting the nation’s medicos and drug researchers together to work on counter-measures.]


I assume a big part is this is finding out who can and will help with this effort, getting them security clearances and making them on-call consultants with annual stipends.


66 posted on 01/28/2020 11:58:48 PM PST by Zhang Fei (My dad had a Delta 88. That was a car. It was like driving your living room.)
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To: familyop

This article should be posted separately on FR.


67 posted on 01/29/2020 12:13:41 AM PST by independentmind (Sticks and stones will break my bones, but words will never hur)
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To: kaehurowing

What is stopping a Chinese lab worker from taking this virus to a dissident and exposing it in the market place


68 posted on 01/29/2020 1:40:05 AM PST by ronnie raygun (nick dip .com)
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To: ronnie raygun

Fear of Reprisal.

That is the way totalarianism maintain power everywhere.


69 posted on 01/29/2020 2:05:18 AM PST by independentmind (Sticks and stones will break my bones, but words will never hur)
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To: Zhang Fei

But Prof Narang doubts the 2019-nCoV virus is an escaped bioweapon: “It would be a terrible bioweapon because of blowback. A good bioweapon, in theory, has high lethality but low, not high, communicability.”


Dear Prof, the Wusan Institute of Virology tried to make a good military-grade bio-weapon, but failed. Because it failed their trials, it was carelessly discarded. One worker got some on their sleave and after work began their second job as a cook in the local wet market - the rest is history.


70 posted on 01/29/2020 2:12:18 AM PST by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now its your turn)
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To: Zhang Fei

Crazy how they have 2 labs in Wuhan. Yet, are sending the patient’s virus tests to Beijing to be processed.


71 posted on 01/29/2020 2:38:20 AM PST by HollyB
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To: familyop

This article concerned me as well.

https://mobile.reuters.com/article/amp/idUSKBN1ZQ21K?__twitter_impression=true


72 posted on 01/29/2020 2:40:41 AM PST by HollyB
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To: flamberge

I’ve been thinking similar, although it really doesn’t matter whether it was a human-made virus or not (other than the fact that we call thank the Globalists for giving the Chicoms the capability to create such a monster).

In any case, the world is stuck with it...but if it does really get out of control in China, perhaps that sick government will be gotten rid of, once and for all.


73 posted on 01/29/2020 3:18:44 AM PST by BobL (I eat at McDonald's and shop at Walmart - I just don't tell anyone.)
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To: plain talk

You apparently never were in combat.

Wounding a soldier is often more effective than killing, because a wounded soldier takes 2-3 able bodied soldiers with him off the battle field.

Yes, the kill rate is 3-4%. ICU rate is 25%. They’ll be sick for months.

That (plus quarantine) effectively shuts an economy down for a year.


74 posted on 01/29/2020 4:06:26 AM PST by Jewbacca (The residents of Iroquois territory may not determine whether Jews may live in Jerusalem)
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To: familyop
13:32, 29-Jan-2020
Bats: the Pandora’s box you do not want to open
Li Yunqi
https://news.cgtn.com/news/2020-01-29/Bats-the-Pandora-s-box-you-do-not-want-to-openNAEr7rhZ4c/index.html


75 posted on 01/29/2020 4:24:18 AM PST by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change with out notice.)
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To: flamberge

“Sounds like the plot for a novel that I have read before.”

I was watching some propaganda video from China regarding how they have this virus under control and all of China is helping and working together to bring it under control.

One of the comments on the youtube video said something like “This sounds like the part 15 minutes into the 2 hour movie.”


76 posted on 01/29/2020 4:37:18 AM PST by 21twelve (Ever Vigilant. Never Fearful!)
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To: flamberge

What were they planning on doing with the African descent Americans?


77 posted on 01/29/2020 4:43:01 AM PST by Chickensoup (Voter ID for 2020!! Leftists totalitarian fascists appear to be planning to eradicate conservatives)
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To: Chickensoup
What were they planning on doing with the African descent Americans?

That was not specified. The original article assumed a "slate wiper" on the North American continent, and dealt mainly with the logistics problems of a resettlement.

As the cartoon said, "I think you should be more explicit in step two"...

78 posted on 01/29/2020 5:38:21 AM PST by flamberge (The wheels keep turning)
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To: plain talk

If it is a bioweapon it is either an economic collapse bioweapon or an incomplete bioweapon in development. With CRISPR it is easy to screw with DNA/RNA. The fact that the middle part of the virus (hence the novel moniker) genome has never been seen before suggests there may have been some CRISPR messing with the genome. Not saying it isn’t naturally evolved but IMHO it is highly unlikely.


79 posted on 01/29/2020 6:01:48 AM PST by LesbianThespianGymnasticMidget (TRUMP TRAIN !!! Get the hell out of the way if you are not on yet because we don't stop for idiots)
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To: LesbianThespianGymnasticMidget

So Chapel Hill replicates the China Bat/Sars virus combo in a mouse that doesn’t die.

China either steals the virus or decides they can do it too

And at some point in the bioweapon development it escapes the lab by accident or intention.

And we await to see what other ethnicities fall victim to the virus.

They are gettig inventive with masks. Putting plastic bottles over their heads while out of the home. One person made a respirator type thing out of three plastic bottles.


80 posted on 01/29/2020 6:13:50 AM PST by RummyChick
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