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Posted on 01/24/2020 2:28:22 PM PST by janetjanet998

Thought it may be a good idea to have a place to follow all the fast moving events in one place

updates coming in fast


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To: grey_whiskers
So from your third link it's apparent that the animal market is not where patient zero originated from. Here's a clip from your link:

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The first person known to have been infected by the Wuhan coronavirus had never visited the city’s seafood market – regarded as the epicentre of the outbreak.

According to Chinese researchers, who also called for extra precautions against airborne transmission of the disease between humans.

The researchers, seven of whom work at Wuhan’s Jinyintan hospital, designated for patients with the illness, revealed on Friday in The Lancet medical journal that symptoms of the new disease were first reported on December 1 – much earlier than the Wuhan government’s initial announcement on December 31 of 27 cases of the pneumonia-like infection.

According to the report, the first patient had no exposure to the Huanan seafood market which was shut down on January 1 over fears – later confirmed – that the new virus was linked to its trade in wild animals. The researchers added that none of the patient’s family had developed fever or any respiratory symptoms. There was also no epidemiological link between the first patient and the later cases, they found.

The researchers analyzed data from 41 patients with confirmed infections who had showed an onset of symptoms up to January 2. Six of those patients died, putting the fatality rate of the group at 15 per cent. The researchers noted that clinical presentations of the patients greatly resembled severe acute respiratory syndrome.

The first patient to die from the new coronavirus had continuous exposure to the market before he was admitted to hospital with a seven-day history of fever, cough and breathing difficulties, according to their report. Five days after the onset of symptoms, his wife, a 53-year-old woman with no known history of exposure to the market, also presented with pneumonia and was hospitalized in the isolation ward, they said.

The absence of a link to the seafood market is one of the indicators for human-to-human transmission of the virus and the researchers identified another 13 patients who also had no direct exposure to the market.

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It appears to me that the virus was flown into Beijing from Canada by chicom researchers in Canada with approval from the Canadian govt. and than contracted by researchers in China,Wuhan, who then contacted others and it began infecting the general population.

Just a guess but very possible.

941 posted on 01/26/2020 4:09:30 AM PST by rodguy911
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To: mewzilla

That’s true but what about the impeachment timing as our side explains what the commie dems have been up to for three years?


942 posted on 01/26/2020 4:28:46 AM PST by rodguy911
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To: Drago

Yes ZH has some really good stuff no question,they make no bones that the Canadians slept while the chicoms smuggled virus’ that could possibly be weaponized back to Beijing and possibly to Wujan.

heres a clip from another link from your link:

http://greatgameindia.com/chinas-biological-warfare-program/#Rise_of_China8217s_Biological_Warfare_Program

Rise of China’s Biological Warfare Program
During the Korean War (1950–53), the earliest semblance of routinized defence against Biological Warfare in the PLA were the 1952 sanitation/anti-plague units, formed through the involvement of the Chinese People’s Volunteer Army in Korea. At the same time, intensive educational campaigns to rid disease-carrying pests were conducted, combined with experience of supposed Biological Warfare casualties treated during the Korean War.

Consequently, in 1954, PLA delegations and students visited the USSR for training in microbiology and infectious diseases. Officially, China declared that its BWs defence programme was initiated in 1958. It was based on a network of anti-plague stationary and mobile facilities (similar to the Soviet one), aiming to cope with plague and further hazardous infectious diseases.

The defensive programme had considerably been evolving during the 1960s, while an offensive Biological Warfare program was initiated in conjunction. By the mid-1970s, a comprehensive, orderly defensive alignment had been already operating within China’s Biological Warfare Program, while an effective offensive BW program was run concurrently.

The latter was formed as an outcome of the influential geostrategic factors mentioned earlier, yet, presumably, was no less a result of an innate Chinese will to possess an arm of high strategic value, in terms of sub-nuclear weapons of mass destruction (WMD). Such motive seems to typically reside in the Chinese national outlook regarding nearly any advanced weaponry.

China acceded to the BWC in 1984, but in a report entitled Adherence to and Compliance with Arms Control Agreements, the US Arms Control and Disarmament Agency contended: ‘China maintained an offensive biological weapons program throughout the 1980s. The program included the development, production, stockpiling or other acquisition or maintenance of biological warfare agents.’

The Pentagon also published a similar paper, entitled ‘Proliferation: Threat and Response’, which claimed that China’s Biological Warfare Program includes manufacturing of infectious microorganisms and toxins. In 1993, US intelligence officials stated that it was highly probable that China had an active and expanding offensive BWs program, following assessment that two civilian-run biological research centers were actually controlled by the Chinese military.

The research centres were known to have engaged previously in production and storage of BW. The American suspicions intensified in 1991 when one of the suspected biological centres was enlarged. Suspicions heightened further after Beijing made, according to a US official, a ‘patently false’ declaration to the United Nations (UN) that it had never made any germ weapons or conducted any work to bolster defences against a biological attack.

The Chinese Foreign Ministry subsequently described all this as groundless, denying that China had a germ weapons programme. In 1995, President Clinton transmitted to the US Congress his statutory annual report, Adherence to and Compliance with Arms Control Agreements. On China, it said:

‘[T]here are strong indications that China probably maintains its offensive BW program.’ In its Chemical and Biological Defense Program Annual Report and the Chemical and Biological Defense Program Performance Plan for 2001, the US Department of Defense was even more specific, contending: ‘China possesses the munitions production capabilities necessary to develop, produce and weaponize biological agents’.

Convening a hearing on China’s proliferation practices in 2003, the US–China Economic and Security Review Commission was informed as follows:

The US believes that despite being a member of the Biological Weapons Convention, China maintains a BW program in violation of its BWC obligations. The United States believes that China’s consistent claims that it has never researched, produced or possessed BW are simply not true, and that China still retains its BW program.

Although China has submitted its voluntary annual BWC confidence-building measure (CBM) data declarations every year, the US Department of State assessed in 2005 that the information submitted therein continued to be ‘inaccurate and misleading’. Further, ‘BWC CBMs since 1991 have called on the States Parties to declare, among other things, their past offensive activities, which China has not done. On the contrary, China insists it never had such a program at all.’

Likewise, in 2007, Defense Intelligence Agency (DIA) testimony for the US Senate, the Select Committee on Intelligence, entitled ‘Current and Projected National Security Threats’ (in both open and closed sessions), contended that the DIA believes China ‘continues to maintain some elements of an offensive biological weapons program.’

The Central Intelligence Agency (CIA), the DIA and intelligence agencies in other countries most probably continue to carefully follow and monitor China’s Biological Warfare Program. Irrespective of publicly bringing out their findings—if partially—or totally keeping them, Beijing’s BWP entirely persists in all likelihood. It is assumed that it includes an extremely secretive operational, sizable BW arsenal, extremely hidden, which is steadily being upgraded.

China’s Biological Warfare Programme: An Integrative Study with Special Reference to Biological Weapons Capabilities by Dany Shoham published in Journal of Defence Studies.


943 posted on 01/26/2020 4:48:23 AM PST by rodguy911
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To: voicereason

voicereason wrote:

“Here’s a video I cam across which claims to be directly from a resident in Wuhan giving a status update, but I can’t vouch for authenticity. The original video had been pulled, so this is apparently a saved stream of that video, which has been re-uploaded to YouTube. It’s in Chinese, but it is captioned in English so you can read along if you select that option. Wuhan Citizen Seeking Help From World

Thanks for finding that!

https://youtu.be/wEkIdGht-S8


944 posted on 01/26/2020 5:30:08 AM PST by WildHighlander57 ((WildHighlander57 returning after lurking since 2000)
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To: voicereason

https://www.bitchute.com/video/HNm8HUVuCRFW/

Someone on the utube uploaded it to bitchute.


945 posted on 01/26/2020 6:17:17 AM PST by WildHighlander57 ((WildHighlander57 returning after lurking since 2000)
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To: rodguy911
when they say 50 and it’s really 500

However, when they say 2000 cases that might be 20,000 or 200,000. From everything I have read the symptoms are mild. That means lots of undiagnosed cases. It also means a low lethality. So I think a good guess a much lower rate than 2.5% lethality.

946 posted on 01/26/2020 7:20:44 AM PST by palmer (Democracy Dies Six Ways to Sunday)
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To: WildHighlander57

Just WOW
I have to think about that!


947 posted on 01/26/2020 7:29:48 AM PST by 3D-JOY (.)
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To: palmer

“symptoms are mild.”

Do you have any sources for what read to post here. I would be interested.


948 posted on 01/26/2020 7:43:27 AM PST by DEPcom
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To: rodguy911

Well, the Lysol fogging seems plausible.


949 posted on 01/26/2020 7:50:54 AM PST by gundog ( Hail to the Chief, bitches!)
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To: rodguy911
How large is the Canadian facility?

Given the CEP of our Trident Subs, and the size of the fireball, it might be advisable for a ground burst nuclear strike.

As Gandalf said, "You Tom-fool of a Took! Throw yourself down the well next time and rid us of your stupidity!"

950 posted on 01/26/2020 8:07:46 AM PST by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change with out notice.)
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To: gundog

Does Lysol spray work on this virus?


951 posted on 01/26/2020 8:41:37 AM PST by DEPcom
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To: rodguy911

Another odd connection. Iran shooting down that plane with 86 dual citizen Canadians.


952 posted on 01/26/2020 9:33:03 AM PST by justa-hairyape (The user name is sarcastic. Although at times it may not appear that way.)
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To: palmer

I’m not so sure on that one. Some of the stuff I read suggests once this thing gets in full bloom, depending on the overall health of the person who has it, death is not that far removed. High death tolls would not surprise me at all on this stuff.


953 posted on 01/26/2020 11:57:26 AM PST by rodguy911
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To: gundog

Out of my realm. I didn’t see any info on what might be sprayed by the trucks.


954 posted on 01/26/2020 11:58:45 AM PST by rodguy911
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To: grey_whiskers

The National Microbiology Laboratory (NML) is part of the Infectious Disease Prevention and Control Branch of the Public Health Agency of Canada (PHAC), the agency of the Government of Canada that is responsible for public health, health emergency preparedness and response, and infectious and chronic disease control and prevention.

NML is located in several sites across the country including the Canadian Science Centre for Human and Animal Health (CSCHAH) in Winnipeg, Manitoba, also home to the Canadian Food Inspection Agency’s National Centre for Foreign Animal Disease. This modern state-of-the-art infectious disease laboratory facility houses the only Containment Level 4 (also known as Biosafety Level 4) operational laboratories in Canada. With maximum containment, scientists are able to work safely with pathogens ranging from the most common to the most serious including Ebola, Marburg and Lassa fever.

NML has a second site in Winnipeg, the JC Wilt Infectious Disease Research Centre on Logan Avenue which serves as a hub for HIV research and diagnostics in Canada. The three other primary sites include locations in Guelph, St. Hyacinthe and Lethbridge.


955 posted on 01/26/2020 12:01:43 PM PST by rodguy911
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To: rodguy911

A friend just sent me this link.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=youtu.be&v=Nk5P_iRYwTY

It has a lot of information about the virus. Maybe someone can confirm that the information is accurate?


956 posted on 01/26/2020 12:02:14 PM PST by ladyjane
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To: justa-hairyape

Its Iran no telling if it was rational,a screw up,accident,or on purpose for any of a zillion reasons,maybe too many sunni on the plane. Remember most of the clowns over there don’t play with a full deck.


957 posted on 01/26/2020 12:03:24 PM PST by rodguy911
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To: WildHighlander57
here are notes I took on the doctors take.

coronoa =crown fast moving virus,human species has not seen it before,no natural immunity,bad virus from a snake crosses over to humans,how easy does it jump between people,in a room of people r of 1.5-2.4 pretty high below 1 will not spread.
older people younger people at risk,case mortality is 3%(I dont believe that at all)very dangerous virus,long latency period,9-14 days before yo go to the doctor and that entire time you are infecting other people.
responsible thing is no travel,too expensive,instead they take temps in high risk areas,completely ineffective accd. to the doctor.
who wont call it a public health emergency,sounds like lawyers instead of doctors,BS,
pandemic phase descriptions=

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/books/NBK143061/

most phases have already happened too late to institute,
wash hands surgical masks

958 posted on 01/26/2020 12:14:41 PM PST by rodguy911
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To: rodguy911
Could be two phases, mild and severe. Similar to how the flu can hit people in a fairly mild way, they get sent home, then they die all of a sudden.

The fatality ratio requires an accurate number of infections which are certainly undercounted. We don't know by how much they are undercounted. The mild cases are probably not reported. Also need to know what other conditions the deceased had. So far I have not heard of healthy people dying from this.

959 posted on 01/26/2020 12:31:22 PM PST by palmer (Democracy Dies Six Ways to Sunday)
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To: RummyChick

there are not enough ventilators nor enough people to handle any more....what will happen will be triage.....allow frail elderly or other chronically ill people to die, and try to save those who have the best chance.....it would be like choosing who to throw in the water when you’re in a life raft..


960 posted on 01/26/2020 12:32:05 PM PST by cherry
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