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Again, the lady has no first hand knowledge.

She heard Sondland say quid pro quo in front of the Ukrainians based on a supposed agreement he had with Mulvaney.

But Sondland has already admitted POTUS told him no quid pro quo, but he, with his superior intellect and insight had deduced that was the requirement...even after being told it was not.

1 posted on 11/08/2019 12:28:12 PM PST by Mariner
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If it’s not written down, it didn’t happen.


2 posted on 11/08/2019 12:31:30 PM PST by Not A Snowbird (I trust President Trump.)
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These jerks just won’t stop with their garbage.


3 posted on 11/08/2019 12:35:24 PM PST by piytar (If it was not for double standards, the Democrats and the left would have NO standards.)
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[[but he, with his superior intellect and insight]]

Read between the lines, and decoded the ‘true’ meaning of “NO QUID PRO QUO” to mean “Definitely quid pro quo” and all the liberals in ll la land smiled in glee-

This is all based on subjective interpretation- the fact of the case is there was no quid pro quo- the released call proves it

The democrats are trying to make the false claim that there doesn’t need to be pro quo- only quid- in order for it to be an ‘abuse of power’ and this is nonsense- they know it- all they are hoping for is to get enough rinos to side with them to impeach trump over nothing-


4 posted on 11/08/2019 12:36:44 PM PST by Bob434
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Big leap between investigating Ukraine corruption and specifically targeting Biden.

In fact, to make the charge stick, that Trump wanted Biden investigated, first, you'd have to prove that Biden was guilty.

5 posted on 11/08/2019 12:38:15 PM PST by G Larry (There is no great virtue in bargaining with the Devil)
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Making the core issue whether or not there was “quid pro quo” is a major strategic blunder. It tacitly concedes that any sort of “quid pro quo” arrangement with Ukraine would be at least unethical, or even illegal. And that’s completely false. It’s also the ONLY point about which we should even be willing to have any discussion.

Otherwise, all the left will have to do to win this is convince enough people that there was, in fact, some sort of quid pro quo. And there’s no way they won’t find deep state moles not just willing, but eager, to so claim.


7 posted on 11/08/2019 12:43:57 PM PST by sourcery (Non Aquiesco: "I do not consent" (Latin))
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Committee Notice:

Witness need not have first, second, third, fourth, fifth, sixth,... hand knowledge of the conversation.

8 posted on 11/08/2019 12:47:54 PM PST by DoughtyOne (Pledge: "...and to the Democracy for which it stands..." I give up. Use the democRat meme...)
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Some of these plotters of this treasonous coup attempt need to be guillotined. Their poison is spewing all over the Republic, sourced I believe in John ‘the moose slime’ Brennan.


9 posted on 11/08/2019 12:48:29 PM PST by MHGinTN (A dispensation perspective is a powerful tool for discernment)
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Such is the way of diplomacy.
“Resume investigation into possible criminal actions involving a would-be President’s family, or we don’t help you” is reasonable & proper - considering a US President, tasked with administrating the Department of Justice, cannot subpoena members of the Ukrainian justice department.


10 posted on 11/08/2019 12:48:31 PM PST by ctdonath2 (Specialization is for insects.)
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Despite dhimmicrap talking points to the contrary, I don’t see ANYTHING written ANYWHERE that clearly outlines DJT asking for any investigation ‘to benefit him politically’.
Was there a request? Likely...Yes. Was that request politically motivated? Or, was it an expression of US law?

To believe that DJT asked, specifically, for an investigation of Biden, as a political tool, would require that Trump had reason to be concerned that Biden would EVER be viable opposition candidate.

I do NOT believe Trump has ever taken Biden seriously in this role.

Of course, this won’t keep the dhimmicraps from pursuing their witch hunt...


11 posted on 11/08/2019 12:48:52 PM PST by PubliusMM (RKBA; a matter of fact, not opinion. Mr Trump, we've got your six.)
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Hey Zachary, this ain’t shit.

Oh, btw Zachary, I was told by a friend that you are a pedophile. Another friend of his said the same thing. He read in the NYT.

Oh and Jeffrey Epstein didn’t kill himself.

5.56mm


12 posted on 11/08/2019 12:49:46 PM PST by M Kehoe (DRAIN THE SWAMP! BUILD THE WALL!)
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Fiona Hill??


14 posted on 11/08/2019 12:52:43 PM PST by Luke21
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Trump, Barr and Guilliani were after the truth concerning the charges around Biden's corrupt activities in Ukraine. Whether or not the truth might have been interpreted as beneficial to Trump is irrelevant. The truth is the truth, and that's what any investigation by Barr was, and still is, after.

Such a bunch of nonsense.

16 posted on 11/08/2019 12:53:41 PM PST by dead (Trump puts crazy glue on their grenades and they never know it until after they pull the pin.)
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Again; Everyone’s already seen the transcript so all this is BS theater to give the msm sound bites


17 posted on 11/08/2019 12:56:29 PM PST by Pollard (If you don't understand what I typed, you haven't read the classics.)
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The 4 laws that Biden broke according to Greg Jarett

1)Foreign Corrupt Practices Act (15USC78dd-1)
It is illegal for a U.S. person to coerce or influence through bribery, extort a foreign into taking action that might financially benefit that person, his family or business.

2) Bribery (18USC201b)
Whoever corruptly gives, offers or promises anything of value to a public official to influence that public official is guilty of bribery.

3) Gratuities Act (180SC201)
Giving, offering, or promising anything of value to a public official in exchange for any official act is a violation of the gratuities act.

4) Hobbs Act-Extortion (18USC 1951)
A threat to a foreign official in order to obtain an official benefit affecting interstate or foreign commerce would constitute extortion under the Hobbs act.

Greg Jarrett also says Trump would be breaking law if he didn't press Ukraine on Biden corruption.
“The president is duty-bound under the ‘take care’ clause of the Constitution, if he knows of a potential corrupt act by a vice president trying to extort a foreign country to shut down a probe that involves his son, that’s bribery, honest services fraud,” Jarrett claimed, pushing a baseless claim. “If he doesn’t do it, it is a dereliction of his Constitutional duty.”

sOURCE

18 posted on 11/08/2019 12:56:41 PM PST by DannyTN
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Yet the assertion that there WAS a “quid pro quo” still persists.

Honi soit qui mal y pense - shame be to him that evil thinks.

And these people are thinking along the most evil intents they can muster.

Is it possible they fail at simple logic and reason?

Count on it. They shall repeat the lies, slanders and calumny endlessly.


19 posted on 11/08/2019 1:00:50 PM PST by alloysteel (Nowhere in the Universe is there escape from the consequences of the crime of stupidity.)
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It’s hilariously obvious that these people are corrupt. ANY investigation into the swamp would benefit Trump politically. Does that mean he shouldn’t investigate the swamp? Here’s a novel idea, how about the swamp stop with their bribes and corrupt practices?!?


23 posted on 11/08/2019 1:15:15 PM PST by wiseprince
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Only “excerpts” are being released, which means they have been doctored to say something they don’t.


24 posted on 11/08/2019 1:16:49 PM PST by kaehurowing
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A simple scan of Fiona Hill’s bio should have alerted any sentient Republican to her left wing (and certainly Democrat) proclivities. Whoever has been advising Trump on his foreign policy choices has done an incredibly lousy job.


25 posted on 11/08/2019 1:22:51 PM PST by Bookshelf
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Hearsay. 2nd hand news.

It is all they have because you can’t pull a direct witness out of your ass without having someone willing to commit perjury. Anybody can say anything about “hearsay”. In fact, I once heard Nancy Pelosi used to be a man. Gee, can I testify to Congress now?


26 posted on 11/08/2019 1:23:58 PM PST by Freedom_Is_Not_Free (What profits a man if he gains the world but loses his soul?)
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This sh*t will keep going into the election.


28 posted on 11/08/2019 1:30:51 PM PST by shanover (...To disarm the people is the best and most effectual way to enslave them.-S.Adams)
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