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Guns and Cannabis: The Insidious Creep of Tyranny
americanthinker.com ^ | 10/11/2019 | John Klar

Posted on 10/11/2019 7:41:28 AM PDT by rktman

In 2004, Vermont implemented a medical marijuana registry, promising patient confidentiality on its state website. Then, in 2018, Vermont legalized recreational marijuana use and imposed a universal background check on gun-purchasers.

Here's the rub: the federal government was not consulted, and the ATF maintains that anyone using marijuana will be denied clearance to purchase any gun. This was already the case prior to Vermont's recreational cannabis legalization — those who were on the state's marijuana registry were not allowed to buy guns from federally licensed dealers, as the state of Vermont provided the list of registrants surreptitiously to the federal government. Yet those on the cannabis registry could still purchase guns from neighbors — that is, until the vaulted "universal background check" closed that "loophole" for sick people to defend themselves. All without public discussion, or even awareness.

Liberals have been chiseling away at our rights for many decades. They have eroded the gun rights of sickly Vermonters, and no one even knows it. They have eliminated the Confederate flag that Lynyrd Skynyrd used as a symbol of rebellion. That flag is permitted only one meaning now: slaveholder. Soon, the American flag may be permitted only one meaning — the one they impose, the one that calls for its universal removal. Soon, MAGA hats will be joined by other symbols deemed offensive to the P.C. McCarthyites.

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Government; Philosophy
KEYWORDS: 2a; 2ndamendment; 4473; banglist; cannabis; kaba; marijuana; pot; rkba; secondamendment; wod
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So if an habitual user does NOT check the 'yes' box on a 4473 (which should be illegal itself) and instead checks the "no" box are they subject to a perjury charge.
1 posted on 10/11/2019 7:41:28 AM PDT by rktman
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To: rktman

We’ll see who supports the Second Amendment vs who supports the BATF and the Brady Bunch.


2 posted on 10/11/2019 7:44:46 AM PDT by Ken H (2019 => The House of Representin')
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My prediction is that President Trump will get federal laws against marijuana removed during his second term.

It just doesn’t work if states legalize this stuff and the feds don’t. People who oppose tyranny should recognize that the federal laws are not helping anyone.


3 posted on 10/11/2019 7:45:09 AM PDT by ClearCase_guy (If White Privilege is real, why did Elizabeth Warren lie about being an Indian?)
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To: rktman; TheStickman; dainbramaged; beaversmom; T-Bone Texan; dljordan; Mama Shawna; NobleFree; ...

For your interest.


4 posted on 10/11/2019 7:45:16 AM PDT by KC_Lion
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To: rktman
Fly a real confederate flag, leftists are too stupid to know what it is
5 posted on 10/11/2019 7:54:44 AM PDT by Lurkinanloomin (Natural Born Citizen Means Born Here Of Citizen Parents_Know Islam, No Peace-No Islam, Know Peace)
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To: ClearCase_guy

> My prediction is that President Trump will get federal laws against marijuana removed during his second term.

Yep, the momentum is all that way. Also, Too much money involved now for the retail businesses not to lobby to protect themselves.


6 posted on 10/11/2019 7:54:49 AM PDT by glorgau
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To: rktman

Furthermore, possession of a “medical Marijuana card” in those states that issue them, is de facto evidence of being a habitual controlled substance user.


7 posted on 10/11/2019 7:56:08 AM PDT by Yo-Yo ( is the /sarc tag really necessary?)
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To: glorgau

Until they change the banking laws, this new “industry” is ripe for corruption and other criminal activities. It’s all about money laundering until that happens.


8 posted on 10/11/2019 7:58:23 AM PDT by shotgun
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To: ClearCase_guy

Long term marijuana users have a much higher incidence of serious mental health issues. I responded to medical aid calls for 25 years, the vast mast majority of truly whacked out nut cases were long term marijuana users. President Trump has no desire to step in this big pile of dog doodoo, that is wishful thinking on your part.


9 posted on 10/11/2019 7:58:42 AM PDT by fireman15
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To: rktman

What is the ATF position on users of CBD oil, that contains little or no THC?

Pretty soon aspirin use will be a reason to deny gun ownership to someone, if things continue on this trajectory.


10 posted on 10/11/2019 7:59:00 AM PDT by Disambiguator ("Progressives" want government in action. Conservatives want government inaction.)
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To: glorgau

And in 50 or so years when the powers that be publish long term effects papers, will some folks see that maybe it wasn’t such an awesome plan? I’ll probably be gone by then.


11 posted on 10/11/2019 7:59:20 AM PDT by rktman ( #My2ndAmend! ----- Enlisted in the Navy in '67 to protect folks rights to strip my rights. WTH?)
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"My prediction is that President Trump will get federal laws against marijuana removed during his second term"

Fine with me. This is a state matter anyway.

12 posted on 10/11/2019 8:05:46 AM PDT by circlecity
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To: fireman15

Better tell that to President Trump => https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZOpgIDMV07o

Take note of the huge cheers from the crowd of Deplorables when he says legalization should be left up to the states.


13 posted on 10/11/2019 8:07:19 AM PDT by Ken H (2019 => The House of Representin')
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To: rktman

It’s not that there aren’t side effects, it’s that the side effects for CBD are much less worse than for the opioids they displace.


14 posted on 10/11/2019 8:08:37 AM PDT by socalgop
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To: rktman
Pot smokers have been gun owners for a long time.


15 posted on 10/11/2019 8:11:13 AM PDT by Pollard (If you don't understand what I typed, you haven't read the classics.)
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...until the vaulted "universal background check"

That an editor didn't catch that error really makes me cringe.

16 posted on 10/11/2019 8:14:29 AM PDT by gundog ( Hail to the Chief, bitches!)
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Then, in 2018, Vermont legalized recreational marijuana use and imposed a universal background check on gun-purchasers.

Smoking dope makes you stupid and then you vote demoKKKrat. And Vermont is what you get.

17 posted on 10/11/2019 8:14:35 AM PDT by Perseverando (For Progressives, Islamonazis, Statists, Commies & other DemoKKKrats: It's all about PEOPLE CONTROL!)
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To: rktman
My prediction is that President Trump will get federal laws against marijuana removed during his second term.

And in 50 or so years when the powers that be publish long term effects papers, will some folks see that maybe it wasn’t such an awesome plan?

Alcohol and tobacco have bad effects - is keeping them legal and regulated a bad plan?

18 posted on 10/11/2019 8:17:08 AM PDT by NobleFree ("law is often but the tyrant's will, and always so when it violates the right of an individual")
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To: gundog
That an editor didn't catch that error really makes me cringe.

Sometimes I think they've fired all the editors. With spellcheck, who needs editors?

Something else: This morning on the radio I heard a newsreader report on Giuliani's associates who had been indicted -- or, as she put it: "in-dick-tid".

19 posted on 10/11/2019 8:18:21 AM PDT by ClearCase_guy (If White Privilege is real, why did Elizabeth Warren lie about being an Indian?)
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Then, in 2018, Vermont legalized recreational marijuana use and imposed a universal background check on gun-purchasers.

Smoking dope makes you stupid and then you vote demoKKKrat. And Vermont is what you get.

Vermont was not Democrat before 2018?

20 posted on 10/11/2019 8:18:23 AM PDT by NobleFree ("law is often but the tyrant's will, and always so when it violates the right of an individual")
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