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I Lost an Old Friend Because of My Support For Trump
Townhall ^ | 09/11/2019 | Michael Brown

Posted on 09/11/2019 9:27:17 AM PDT by SeekAndFind

I imagine I’m not the only one this happened to, but still, you hate to see it happen at all. You express your support for Trump on a given issue, and an old friend or acquaintance dumps you. That’s how fiercely they oppose – or even despise – him. How do we best navigate these turbulent waters?

Growing up in a small Jewish community on Long Island, most of my best friends were also Jewish. And like the majority of American Jews, most of those old friends are now liberal Democrats. And a few of those old friends – or neighbors – are my Facebook friends.

That means they see my many posts about controversial cultural issues, like abortion and LGBT activism, and they do not unfriend me.

Others, not surprisingly, did unfriend me along the way, which I fully understand. We weren’t super close, and they didn’t appreciate my views. All clear.

But one in particular, whom I had known since elementary school, somehow stuck around, and every so often he’d post a nice comment to a family update or the like.

Unfortunately, the day came when my support for the President on a particular issue was more than he could take, and that was the end of that.

I wasn’t offended, but I hated to see it happen.

More recently, another childhood friend, named David, posted this in response to one my Trump-related articles: “How can any Christian support such an immoral and divisive man? He’s broken every commandment and has committed all Seven Deadly Sins. Ask yourself two questions....would Jesus support such behavior?

“Would Jesus treat illegals the same way?

“The answer is no to both questions and I question your commitment to Jesus if you support Donald Trump.

“Instant redemption is bull as Trump never seems contrite in his poor decisions.”

How did I respond to a post like this?

It appears that the order of the day is to fight fire with fire, offense with offense. You blast me and I blast you. Forget about substance. About content. About details and facts. And forget about conducting ourselves in a godly manner. Not a chance. Fire away!

But the Book of Proverbs has a relevant word for us here: “A gentle answer deflects anger, but harsh words make tempers flare.” (Proverbs 15:1, NLT)

I knew his life experience and faith perspectives were very different than mine, and personally, I was glad to see he was still a Facebook friend, despite our differences.

I wrote back, “You definitely represent the concerns of many others, especially non-Christians. Here's the short answer: 1) Donald Trump is NOT our Savior, and for many of us, he was the last choice of the Republicans running for office. But a vote for him was a vote against Hillary, who we believed would be a disaster for our country. 2) While the issue of migrant children is a serious one and needs to be addressed, for us, slaughtering one million babies in the womb [each year] is a massively bigger issue. The brutal and horrific slaughter and torture and displacement of millions of Christians in the Middle East by ISIS and other Islamic militants is a massively bigger issue. The possibility of Iran getting nuclear weapons to attack Israel fits in this same category. And these are just some of the biggest issues to us. That's why we voted for Trump. We felt Hillary would be on the wrong side of all of these. As for immigration, remember that Obama deported far more illegals, at this time in his presidency, than Trump, and the problem of separating children from parents has existed for years before Trump. Christian supporters of Trump simply need to make clear that we want something done that is compassionate and fair. 3) When we excuse Trump's sinful behavior, we discredit our own witness. I agree. But we do NOT compromise our Christian witness when we say, ‘We deplore his past, playboy lifestyle, and we hate his crude and ugly attacks against others, but out of the choices for president in 2016 (or, potentially in 2020), we believe he's the better choice.’ I encourage you to think this through. God bless!”

And how did David respond on Facebook? He wrote, “Michael, thanks for the answer. As you know, we have many issues facing us as a country and as religious groups. There are no easy answers. I’m not sure if prioritizing our response based on religious views is the answer.

“It saddens me to see not one of the responses I got from people here address my two questions about Jesus approving of Trumps actions. I see a herd of Trump apologists who cherry pick their Christian values.

“Michael, I admire you as a person, you serve a very important role in today’s world. Keep up the good work you do! Be well!”

I responded, “Thanks for the kind words. This is the kind of interaction we all need. Much appreciated! And keep raising your voice when you want to weigh in. I always welcome respectful differences of opinion.”

As of today, David and I are still Facebook friends (David, I hope you’re reading this! If you are, encourage Robert to rejoin us!). And the point of me posting this is not to say, “Look at how wise my interaction was!”

The point, instead, is this.

Let’s do our best to communicate. To interact substantively rather than be reactionary. To do our best to hear someone’s heartfelt concerns.

And then, rather than dismissing those concerns as if they were baseless – is that how we want our concerns treated? – to share our point of view with clarity and grace.

In the end, rather than losing friends over views about Trump, we just might gain some.

Hey, it can’t hurt to dream.


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To: SeekAndFind
I had a dear friend who was a colleague in the school we both taught in. We used to have lunch together every day for a decade, an island of peace and camaraderie during the day. Sometimes we'd even meet for dinner if his wife had an evening professional meeting. Then, the 2008 elections came around, with a very low quality candidate named Barack Obama on the ballot. My friend, a knee jerk liberal, was ecstatic over the fact that this was the first black presidential candidate ever. Of course he voted for him. I saw this fake for what he was immediately. That fact that the Democratic Party had chosen such a piece of garbage as their candidate was the final straw, and I left the party of my father. I, and a number of other conservative friends were subsequently bombarded with pro-Obama emails from my friend. I refuted every single one of his sales points. Finally, tired of having to waste my time stating the obvious, I asked my friend to please stop sending me those emails. He was deeply insulted. This brought the end to a beautiful over-10-year friendship. Chalk it up to yet another Obama casualty, may he drop dead at the earliest convenience.

When my friend died suddenly a few years later (had a major heart attack in his cardiologist's office and dropped dead to the floor), a mutual friend from school notified me so that I could attend the funeral. I cried at his grave not only for his death, but for the years of friendship we missed out on, thanks to the lies of B.O.

21 posted on 09/11/2019 9:45:29 AM PDT by EinNYC
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To: SeekAndFind

If Jesus felt the same about illegal aliens as he did about the Pharisees or the moneychangers in the temple, I suspect he’d have signed up for the Border Patrol.


22 posted on 09/11/2019 9:46:21 AM PDT by Mr Ramsbotham ("God is a spirit, and man His means of walking on the earth.")
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To: SeekAndFind
If I had "friends" who decided to cut me off because of my support for Trump, I would realize they were not true friends to begin with but only acquaintances who went along for the ride with me for awhile and decided to get off the bus.

My dad advised me went I left home for college that half of the people I met in life wouldn't like me not matter what I said or did. Forget them, he said, and focus of the other half that do like you. There is where your friends will come from.

I don't have any "friends" who left me because of my support for Trump. I left them because they didn't support me.

23 posted on 09/11/2019 9:46:59 AM PDT by HotHunt (Been there. Done that.)
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To: Kickass Conservative

I have started referring to my liberal acquaintances as catfish.

As I tell them, “ You are like a catfish bottom feeding in the Fake News River, gobbling up every piece of liberal/progressive BS that comes floating by and and then regurgitating it on FB.”

From then on, I greet their posts with , “Hello Catfish.”


24 posted on 09/11/2019 9:47:28 AM PDT by N. Theknow (Kennedys-Can't drive, can't ski, can't fly, can't skipper a boat-But they know what's best for you.)
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Dear Jews,
Catch a clue. Democrats universally despise you. They hate jews with as much intensity as they hate Trump.

I rarely say anything political on fakebook, and have lost friends the few times I have. Dhims, of course pal around like a pack of rabid fogs constantly crying and mocking everything Trump does and says. Most of my fakebook friends are non corporeal anyway, so I do intend on losing half of them next year when Trump is reelected with the largest margin in history, with one comment....hahahahahahahahahajahahahaha now STFU


25 posted on 09/11/2019 9:48:29 AM PDT by dsrtsage (Complexity is merely simplicity lacking imagination)
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To: SeekAndFind

I had a cousin do this with Obama. She supported single payer health care and I did not. She said if I did not, I did not care about her and her cancer. So, she very vocally wrote me off. She’s crazy.


26 posted on 09/11/2019 9:48:31 AM PDT by HollyB
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To: N. Theknow

Fakebook, where Tolerance will not be tolerated.


27 posted on 09/11/2019 9:48:58 AM PDT by Kickass Conservative (Democracy, two Wolves and one Sheep deciding what's for Dinner.)
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To: SeekAndFind; Baldwin77

My liberal friend (never discussed politics) died last year. Yesterday my sister and I were at her home helping her husband sort and organize her stuff before he moved away. One thing was a sampler she had finished but never framed. I suggested he take it to Hobby Lobby and they’d take care of it. He did a big “hrumph!”, stalked away, and said, “Hobby Lobby ... those racists!”

Sis and I looked at each other and rolled our eyes. I was going to remind him that Hobby Lobby’s owners are rabid Catholics, as he is (he was a priest). I was going to explain how many minorities I’ve seen working there. I did none of those things, considering the solemnity of the situation and out of respect for his wife and her stuff.

I’m praying he loses our phone number after he moves. He wants to maintain a relationship with DH and me, but we don’t deal well with socialists.


28 posted on 09/11/2019 9:49:43 AM PDT by MayflowerMadam ("The best way to get a bad law repealed is to enforce it strictly." A. Lincoln)
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To: SeekAndFind
I have a number of liberal friends. We seldom talk politics, because we value that friendship, but even with them I find myself being careful what I disclose in terms of such things as what firearms I own. I have had a number of liberal acquaintances whose politics are the most important thing in their lives, and with them discourse is simply impossible. Honest to God, I was talking with one of them about snow tires last year and he pipes up, "Not gonna need them when Trump gets through destroying the planet, are we?" We couldn't even talk about snow tires. That's something worse than politics, it's obsession.

Make new friends is my advice. And pray the Civil Cold War doesn't turn hot.

29 posted on 09/11/2019 9:49:55 AM PDT by Billthedrill
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To: SeekAndFind

“More recently, another childhood friend, named David, posted this in response to one my Trump-related articles: “How can any Christian support such an immoral and divisive man? He’s broken every commandment and has committed all Seven Deadly Sins. Ask yourself two questions....would Jesus support such behavior?

“Would Jesus treat illegals the same way?

Did David support Barack Obama? Or Bill Clinton? Or Hillary?


30 posted on 09/11/2019 9:50:52 AM PDT by lowbridge
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To: Kickass Conservative

Indeed. I finally stopped using FB for anything political during 44. It’s only for social interactions now.


31 posted on 09/11/2019 9:51:10 AM PDT by HollyB
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To: SeekAndFind

you didn’t lose anything of any real value


32 posted on 09/11/2019 9:51:29 AM PDT by faithhopecharity ( “Politicians are not born; they are excreted.” Marcus Tullius Cicero (106 to 43 BCE))
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To: SeekAndFind
Would Jesus treat illegals the same way?

Well, no. Being God He would immediately know who were the evil ones who had bought children for the purposes of selling them into sexual slavery. He would know who was coming only to steal and destroy. Who was bringing in poison to kill. What would happen then would make your delicate little feeling quiver and shiver as He meted out justice.

As for the rest the rules laid down show that He is not fond of house breakers and thieves.

At best the ones who are honestly seeking a new life and to contribute to the country would be told to go back and observe the law by properly asking entrance.

But, as observed, Trump is not God so lacking that advantage he has to do things in the human fashion. Which he has done with great care to behave with justice and mercy.

Sorry that this bothers you.

Quite frankly I suggest that you get down off your holier then thou throne and go actually take a look at what the alien invaders are doing to your fellow country men.

33 posted on 09/11/2019 9:51:31 AM PDT by Harmless Teddy Bear (Human beings don't behave rationally. We rationalize our behavior.)
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To: SeekAndFind

I lost a friend from grammer school.....couldn’t care less....


34 posted on 09/11/2019 9:52:40 AM PDT by 1217Chic
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To: SeekAndFind
They cannot defend their political positions logically, so they attempt to justify them emotionally.

When people on the right ignore their emotionalism, they have nothing left, so they rage and storm off to seek shelter with emotionally compatible nitwits.

35 posted on 09/11/2019 9:54:02 AM PDT by dead (Liberals ruin everything.)
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To: SeekAndFind

I posted the truth about the Racist Democrats past on FB...lost a good “friend”...because she didn’t like the truth being shown to her friends


36 posted on 09/11/2019 9:55:07 AM PDT by goodnesswins (White Privilege EQUALS Self Control & working 50-80 hrs/wk for 40 years!)
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To: SeekAndFind

Sorry, when it comes to President Trump, even the gentlest answer provokes unbridled fury.


37 posted on 09/11/2019 9:55:17 AM PDT by steve8714
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To: Billthedrill

I find liberals ARE the ones who bring up Politics...


38 posted on 09/11/2019 9:57:11 AM PDT by goodnesswins (White Privilege EQUALS Self Control & working 50-80 hrs/wk for 40 years!)
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To: SeekAndFind

My only dealing with FB was buying in when it plummeted to 19. I wish I had kept it, but I sold out at 78.


39 posted on 09/11/2019 9:58:01 AM PDT by Michael.SF. (Youth, speed and energy can always be overcome with experience and treachery.)
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To: goodnesswins
I find liberals ARE the ones who bring up Politics...

Yep. 100% of the time.

40 posted on 09/11/2019 9:58:30 AM PDT by Billthedrill
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