Skip to comments.I Lost an Old Friend Because of My Support For Trump
Posted on 09/11/2019 9:27:17 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
I imagine Im not the only one this happened to, but still, you hate to see it happen at all. You express your support for Trump on a given issue, and an old friend or acquaintance dumps you. Thats how fiercely they oppose or even despise him. How do we best navigate these turbulent waters?
Growing up in a small Jewish community on Long Island, most of my best friends were also Jewish. And like the majority of American Jews, most of those old friends are now liberal Democrats. And a few of those old friends or neighbors are my Facebook friends.
That means they see my many posts about controversial cultural issues, like abortion and LGBT activism, and they do not unfriend me.
Others, not surprisingly, did unfriend me along the way, which I fully understand. We werent super close, and they didnt appreciate my views. All clear.
But one in particular, whom I had known since elementary school, somehow stuck around, and every so often hed post a nice comment to a family update or the like.
Unfortunately, the day came when my support for the President on a particular issue was more than he could take, and that was the end of that.
I wasnt offended, but I hated to see it happen.
More recently, another childhood friend, named David, posted this in response to one my Trump-related articles: How can any Christian support such an immoral and divisive man? Hes broken every commandment and has committed all Seven Deadly Sins. Ask yourself two questions....would Jesus support such behavior?
Would Jesus treat illegals the same way?
The answer is no to both questions and I question your commitment to Jesus if you support Donald Trump.
Instant redemption is bull as Trump never seems contrite in his poor decisions.
How did I respond to a post like this?
It appears that the order of the day is to fight fire with fire, offense with offense. You blast me and I blast you. Forget about substance. About content. About details and facts. And forget about conducting ourselves in a godly manner. Not a chance. Fire away!
But the Book of Proverbs has a relevant word for us here: A gentle answer deflects anger, but harsh words make tempers flare. (Proverbs 15:1, NLT)
I knew his life experience and faith perspectives were very different than mine, and personally, I was glad to see he was still a Facebook friend, despite our differences.
I wrote back, You definitely represent the concerns of many others, especially non-Christians. Here's the short answer: 1) Donald Trump is NOT our Savior, and for many of us, he was the last choice of the Republicans running for office. But a vote for him was a vote against Hillary, who we believed would be a disaster for our country. 2) While the issue of migrant children is a serious one and needs to be addressed, for us, slaughtering one million babies in the womb [each year] is a massively bigger issue. The brutal and horrific slaughter and torture and displacement of millions of Christians in the Middle East by ISIS and other Islamic militants is a massively bigger issue. The possibility of Iran getting nuclear weapons to attack Israel fits in this same category. And these are just some of the biggest issues to us. That's why we voted for Trump. We felt Hillary would be on the wrong side of all of these. As for immigration, remember that Obama deported far more illegals, at this time in his presidency, than Trump, and the problem of separating children from parents has existed for years before Trump. Christian supporters of Trump simply need to make clear that we want something done that is compassionate and fair. 3) When we excuse Trump's sinful behavior, we discredit our own witness. I agree. But we do NOT compromise our Christian witness when we say, We deplore his past, playboy lifestyle, and we hate his crude and ugly attacks against others, but out of the choices for president in 2016 (or, potentially in 2020), we believe he's the better choice. I encourage you to think this through. God bless!
And how did David respond on Facebook? He wrote, Michael, thanks for the answer. As you know, we have many issues facing us as a country and as religious groups. There are no easy answers. Im not sure if prioritizing our response based on religious views is the answer.
It saddens me to see not one of the responses I got from people here address my two questions about Jesus approving of Trumps actions. I see a herd of Trump apologists who cherry pick their Christian values.
Michael, I admire you as a person, you serve a very important role in todays world. Keep up the good work you do! Be well!
I responded, Thanks for the kind words. This is the kind of interaction we all need. Much appreciated! And keep raising your voice when you want to weigh in. I always welcome respectful differences of opinion.
As of today, David and I are still Facebook friends (David, I hope youre reading this! If you are, encourage Robert to rejoin us!). And the point of me posting this is not to say, Look at how wise my interaction was!
The point, instead, is this.
Lets do our best to communicate. To interact substantively rather than be reactionary. To do our best to hear someones heartfelt concerns.
And then, rather than dismissing those concerns as if they were baseless is that how we want our concerns treated? to share our point of view with clarity and grace.
In the end, rather than losing friends over views about Trump, we just might gain some.
Hey, it cant hurt to dream.
I’m 66. Over my lifetime I’ve lost a lot of “friends” over various issues. I used to hang around quite a few musicians. Most of them are gone from my life now. Some left with expletive laced posts in FaceBook. It’s kinda comical to me, really, I’ve experienced, personally, the projection of the left. They are a touchy group. They’re pretty easy to intentionally set off, as Trump demonstrates daily.
They are cowards. They are afraid that you might explain your ideas so well that they might have to actually think.
Think that your ideas are better and that they have to figure how to live with all of their leftist comrades knowing that they know they are wrong.
If a friend cannot carry out a rational debate about Trump and threaten to break up the friendship when they cannot defend their opinions with logic and facts, then they are being ruled by their emotions and it is unlikely that you will be able to convince them that they are wrong.
Jesus himself that we would lose friends and alienate family by choosing to follow Him.
It’s something Christians should not fear for being in the right.
That’s not a loss.
Exactly! It is how I respond to it when it happens.
RE: If a friend cannot carry out a rational debate about Trump and threaten to break up the friendship when they cannot defend their opinions with logic and facts,
If this is the case, are they still worthy of being your friend?
Ya know, Ive had friends that were Obama supporters and I didnt disown them. I think its just the left that acts so childish.
If a friend can’t respect your opinion, they’re not really a friend.
One of my best friends was a liberal in college. I ignored it. He has gotten much more radical. A Bernie supporter now. But for the most part we just DONT talk politics anymore. Occasional digs, but thats about it.
Over 50 of Hilary’s friends and colleagues have ‘committed suicide’ in suspicious circumstances. And the Clinton Foundation is a thin veneer for child trafficking and extortion.
Ask these liberal ‘friends’ why they think Jesus would have voted for her.
Also, Trump walks the walk on Pro-Life. Ask these pharisees why their version of Jesus is ok with infanticide.
I am in a similar situation with an old friend from HS. He has accepted the Liberal dogma, drunk the cool-aid, and we have had heated email exchanges with us not talking with each other for months. When we see each other, we avoid politics which means the conversations are high-level and superficial... which means the friendship is “superficial” too.
She was not invited back and it doesn't matter, because my estimation of her diminished by about 5000%
Not because of her views, but because she forgot how to conduct herself
Has anyone here who uses Fakebook NOT been unfriended by a “tolerant” Liberal so called Friend?
I respond to ridiculous statements by using Facts.
The responses contain personal attacks against me.
I call them out.
They unfriend me.
Stop talking to the Left. They want you dead and they refuse to learn.
I would never have a “friend” that wanted the government to kill me.
Why would someone who doesn’t see Jesus in the same way as a Christian care if Jesus approves of one thing or another? That’s just a technique to manipulate the narrative, no matter how nicely it’s done. Push just a little and usually that person will reveal just how much they respect what Jesus approves of when they want to say homosexuality is just love or a woman deserves the right to kill her baby.
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