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Shroud of Turin: New Test Concludes 1988 ‘Medieval Hoax’ Dating Was a Fraud
Townhall.com ^ | July 21, 2019 | Myrah Kahn Adams

Posted on 07/21/2019 6:56:03 AM PDT by Kaslin

Important news about the Shroud of Turin, believed by millions to be the authentic burial cloth of Jesus Christ, has been flagrantly under-reported.

Nevertheless, the lack of mainstream media interest does not diminish landmark new research contesting the results of the controversial 1988 radiocarbon test that dated the Shroud between the years 1260 and 1390. 

Immediately after those dates were cited three decades ago, and to this day, the Shroud has been tainted, maligned, disparaged and denigrated while wedded to the descriptions “not authentic,” a “forgery” or “medieval hoax.” 

Meanwhile, the medieval date range is still continuously questioned and debunked by scientists and experts. The chief complaint is that the three small Shroud test samples were cut from the same outer edge on a piece of the cloth long thought to have been added later in the Middle Ages. This would have been part of a repair or reweave on a corner that had become worn and frayed due to frequent handling when the Shroud was held up for public exhibition. In fact, this theory was proven correct in 2005 by American chemist Raymond N. Rogers.

Thankfully now there is a new chapter in the 1988 dating debate. Raw data and documents from the original test that were “unavailable” (many scientists and researchers would say deliberately “hidden”) were obtained in 2017 by Tristan Casabianca, a French researcher.

In March, after two years of tests and analysis, Casabianca and his team of scientists published their results in the scholarly journal Archaeometry.

This month, in an interview with the French publication L'Homme Nouveau (Google translates into English), Casabianca discusses how he obtained the documents, his team’s methodology, and conclusion. Here is an excerpt:

“In 1989, the results of the shroud dating were published in the prestigious journal Nature: between 1260 and 1390 with 95% certainty. But for thirty years, researchers have asked the laboratories for raw data. These have always refused to provide them. In 2017, I submitted a legal request to the British Museum, which supervised the laboratories. Thus, I had access to hundreds of unpublished pages, which include these raw data. With my team, we conducted their analysis. Our statistical analysis shows that the 1988 carbon 14 dating was unreliable: the tested samples are obviously heterogeneous, [showing many different dates], and there is no guarantee that all these samples, taken from one end of the sheet, are representative of the whole fabric. It is therefore impossible to conclude that the shroud of Turin dates from the Middle Ages.”

Here is why Casabianca’s conclusions are important to someone like me.

Since the 1990s, I have been a proponent of the study of the Shroud of Turin — a 14.5- by-3.5-foot linen cloth, and indeed believe it is the authentic burial Shroud of Jesus Christ. 

Meanwhile, the Shroud continues to be the most studied and analyzed artifact in the world, with its numerous unexplained properties continuing to baffle modern science. Chief among the mysteries is what “caused” a linear, front to back, anatomically correct, blood-stained image of a tortured, crucified man — with bodily markings that perfectly align with all the Biblical accounts of Christ’s suffering and death — to appear on the cloth. 



TOPICS: Culture/Society
KEYWORDS: belongsinreligion; christianity; forgery; jesuschrist; medievalfake; sameoldtiredbs; shroud; shroudofturin
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To: Swordmaker

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21 posted on 07/21/2019 7:44:58 AM PDT by SkyPilot ("I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me." John 14:6)
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To: TheZMan; SkyDancer; Poison Pill; Kaslin; _Jim; newfreep
There have been numerous endeavors, using 21st century technology, to make images based on the 3-D information encoded in the Shroud. And if this is a "Nordic" image...

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Verily, yeah, brothers and sisters, I'm a Hottentot.

22 posted on 07/21/2019 7:46:14 AM PDT by Mrs. Don-o ("Let us commend ourselves, and one another, and our whole life, unto Christ Our God.")
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To: Vermont Lt

The Templars have it


23 posted on 07/21/2019 7:46:45 AM PDT by bigbob (Trust Trump. Trust the Plan.)
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To: TheZMan
Jesus left us a relatively few number of physical signs and other miracles for the doubting Thomas types, those who have no, or struggle with their faith. These are just one of the many pathways for conversion.

During his short ministry, he miraculously saved and healed many. These acts instantly converted many. The Shroud is one of these unexplained miracles. It was not meant for people like yourself who enjoy a perfect faith in Jesus.

24 posted on 07/21/2019 7:48:02 AM PDT by motoman (")
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To: Mrs. Don-o

Never been able to duplicate it exactly the way it’s on the Shroud.


25 posted on 07/21/2019 7:49:36 AM PDT by SkyDancer ( ~ Just Consider Me A Random Fact Generator ~ Eat Sleep Fly Repeat ~)
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To: Zenjitsuman
Thank you for your comment. #22 will perhaps interest you.
26 posted on 07/21/2019 7:51:29 AM PDT by Mrs. Don-o ("Let us commend ourselves, and one another, and our whole life, unto Christ Our God.")
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To: Mrs. Don-o

“...One of the people who saw it was Hans Scholl, a 15-year-old German vacationing in Italy. His bio says that Scholl was deeply moved...”

I did not know this. Thank you for sharing this info Misses D.


27 posted on 07/21/2019 7:54:52 AM PDT by Monterrosa-24 (...even more American than a Russian AK-47 and a French bikini.)
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To: Poison Pill

“Hard to top the shroud crowd in the imagination dept.”

21st century and they still can’t replicate or explain The Shroud notwithstanding the latest scientific evidence brought forth.

Maybe some have hostility because they couch it with anti-Catholicism.
The Shroud is not about any group; it’s far more important.


28 posted on 07/21/2019 7:55:57 AM PDT by romanesq (For George Soros so loved the world, he gave us Obama.)
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To: Kaslin

No doubt the original information was manipulated because it may show the real truth and a reconfirmation of the existence of the son of God. How do you ruin and malign a religion?


29 posted on 07/21/2019 7:56:39 AM PDT by ronnie raygun (nicdip.com)
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To: Zenjitsuman
He doesn’t look Jewish, period.

So after 2,000 years of Jews interbreeding with every nation on earth, you know what they looked like back then?

30 posted on 07/21/2019 7:56:49 AM PDT by aimhigh (THIS is His commandment . . . . 1 John 3:23)
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To: Zenjitsuman

The depiction in this thread looks frankly Jewish, not Nordic.
People see whatever they want until they wish to see. Many choose to never see.


31 posted on 07/21/2019 7:58:11 AM PDT by romanesq (For George Soros so loved the world, he gave us Obama.)
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To: motoman

You assume the signs left for the doubting Thomas types aren’t actually distractions that will lead to their 2nd death. I try to not make assumptions because I’m imposing my will on God.

Is it real? Dunno. Therefore I put no faith in it.


32 posted on 07/21/2019 8:00:14 AM PDT by TheZMan (I am a secessionist.)
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To: SkyDancer
"Never been able to duplicate it exactly the way it’s on the Shroud."

Thank you --- that's quite true. Using 3-D imaging on the Shroud --- similar to what they've done with Our Lady of Guadalupe, whose Image also contains 3-D information ---- also produces new results with previously-unrealized detail, the provenance of which could not have been any presently-known human technology.

Yes, I'm going way out on a limb here, it could be an artifact. But an artifact made by someone whose technology surpasses ours, and who evidently wanted us to bear in mind Christ's sacrifice for the sake of our redemption.

33 posted on 07/21/2019 8:00:18 AM PDT by Mrs. Don-o ("Let us commend ourselves, and one another, and our whole life, unto Christ Our God.")
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To: Mrs. Don-o

HANS SCHOLL,

In Remembrance.


34 posted on 07/21/2019 8:00:53 AM PDT by Big Red Badger (Despised by the Despicable!)
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To: motoman

Also, by no means is my faith perfect. Not even close.


35 posted on 07/21/2019 8:01:33 AM PDT by TheZMan (I am a secessionist.)
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To: Vermont Lt
I wonder if the Vatican has tried to “clone” the blood. You know that’s a novel somewhere on a publishers desk.

The third book of the trilogy "The Nosferatu Chronicles: Return to Vambiri" has Jesus as a clone (but not via the shroud).

36 posted on 07/21/2019 8:06:30 AM PDT by HandBasketHell
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To: romanesq
21st century and they still can’t replicate or explain The Shroud notwithstanding the latest scientific evidence brought forth.

That thing gets replicated all the time. But there will always be some "eminent scientist" willing to tell you what you want to hear because there is money in doing so.

37 posted on 07/21/2019 8:23:15 AM PDT by Poison Pill
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To: Mrs. Don-o

Amen and thank you.


38 posted on 07/21/2019 8:31:11 AM PDT by georgia peach (georgia peach)
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To: Poison Pill

“That thing cracks me up every time I see it. 6’ 2” Nordic looking white guy in 1st Century Judea?”

But a 6’2” Nordic guy in Judea during the Crusades around 1100 might not be far off. Most if the Cusaders were from France and many were Norman stock.


39 posted on 07/21/2019 8:31:31 AM PDT by grumpygresh
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To: Vermont Lt
You know that’s a novel somewhere on a publishers desk.

Author: John Heubusch
1) The Shroud Conspiracy (2017)
2) The Second Coming (2018)

This is a gripping two part fictional story about cloning the blood from The Shroud. Very difficult to put these books down once you start reading.

40 posted on 07/21/2019 8:34:26 AM PDT by plsvn
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