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Faithless Electors Who Break Their Promise Rightly Can Be Punished
The Daily Signal ^ | June 27, 2019 | Hans von Spakovsky, and Greg Walsh

Posted on 07/02/2019 2:53:46 PM PDT by Yosemitest



TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Editorial; Government; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: constitution; constructionism; constructionist; electoralcollege; faithlesselectors; nationalpopularvote; npv; scotus
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Well !
How will the cheating' DemocRATS fight that ?
1 posted on 07/02/2019 2:53:46 PM PDT by Yosemitest
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To: Yosemitest

If all previous law breaking won’t stop them, how will this be any different????


2 posted on 07/02/2019 2:57:41 PM PDT by GraceG ("If I post an AWESOME MEME, STEAL IT! JUST RE-POST IT IN TWO PLACES PLEASE")
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To: Yosemitest

Too late for the 2016 Hussein Head electors?


3 posted on 07/02/2019 2:59:07 PM PDT by treetopsandroofs
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To: Yosemitest

They will attempt to do away with the EC completely.


4 posted on 07/02/2019 2:59:22 PM PDT by billyboy15
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To: GraceG
Our Founding Fathers would have already tried them, and found them guilty.
Then they would have given them the punishment they so richly deserve, at the short end of a rope,.
5 posted on 07/02/2019 3:00:43 PM PDT by Yosemitest (It's SIMPLE ! ... Fight, ... or Die !)
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They also have the “ability to step down as electors without penalty”

Is that really true?

When I was younger I know that the names of each elector were on the ballot. Now they are not, at least here in NJ, but my understanding is that the Parties must file a "Slate of Electors." That is, their names are known. I don't believe they can be replaced.

If one could be replaced, and that person announced his/her/its intention NOT to vote for the Party's candidate before submitting his/her/its vote, it seems to me that the Party would take the initiative to do so.

ML/NJ

6 posted on 07/02/2019 3:12:10 PM PDT by ml/nj
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To: Yosemitest

AOC says she wanted to go to Electoral College but went to BU instead.


7 posted on 07/02/2019 3:12:57 PM PDT by bigbob (Trust Trump. Trust the Plan.)
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They will try but it will take a Constitutional Amendment to accomplish and will ultimately meet the same fate as the Equal rights Amendment.
8 posted on 07/02/2019 3:16:46 PM PDT by traderrob6
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To: Yosemitest

Very interesting. Thanks for posting.


9 posted on 07/02/2019 3:21:07 PM PDT by PGalt
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To: ml/nj
Why do they have to be people? Why not just deliver 23 votes (or whatever it is in a given state) en masse? Take the stupid humans out of it.
10 posted on 07/02/2019 3:23:54 PM PDT by fhayek
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The reason AOC takes a plane to DC is because every time she walked to the subway they tried to sell her a sandwich.


11 posted on 07/02/2019 3:42:46 PM PDT by monkeyshine
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Why not just deliver 23 votes

Small thing called the Constitution.

ML/NJ

12 posted on 07/02/2019 3:44:16 PM PDT by ml/nj
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Bottom line on the electoral vote in 2016:


  1. Trump had two faithless electors from Texas (both Paultards as I recall) who refused to vote for him.
  2. Her Royal Thighness had five faithless electors from Washington and Hawaii who refused to vote for her

13 posted on 07/02/2019 3:49:40 PM PDT by Vigilanteman (The politicized state destroys all aspects of civil society, human kindness and private charity.)
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...and I would have gotten away with it, if it weren’t for that meddling Constitution....


14 posted on 07/02/2019 3:52:17 PM PDT by fhayek
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Did the WA Supreme Court also change the delegates votes to the proper candidate?


15 posted on 07/02/2019 4:24:05 PM PDT by dirtymac (Now is the time for all good men to come to the aid of their country! Now)
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Nonsense. Read Federalist 68. The political parties horribly corrupted the EC.


16 posted on 07/02/2019 4:37:17 PM PDT by Jacquerie (ArticleVBlog.com)
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How will the cheating' DemocRATS fight that ?

What a bargain only a measly grand buys an electoral vote, I think Jebbie spent a hundred Million for the one he got.

17 posted on 07/02/2019 4:55:24 PM PDT by itsahoot (Welcome to the New USA where Islam is a religion of peace and Christianity is a mental disorder.)
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Agreed


18 posted on 07/02/2019 7:38:42 PM PDT by Gene Eric (Don't be a statist!)
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To: fhayek

Really?


19 posted on 07/02/2019 11:29:30 PM PDT by Don W (When blacks riot, neighbourhoods and cities burn. When whites riot, nations and continents burn.)
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To: Yosemitest
Not that I like the implications, but IMHO when the Constitution says that
Article II Section 1:
Each State shall appoint, in such Manner as the Legislature thereof may direct, a Number of Electors, equal to the whole Number of Senators and Representatives to which the State may be entitled in the Congress: but no Senator or Representative, or Person holding an Office of Trust or Profit under the United States, shall be appointed an Elector.
. . . they were isolating the presidency from the popular vote. The Electors were to elect the president, not the people. It would have been easy for them to have assigned the role to the people at large, and they did not do it. The electors are chosen by public ballot in each state, but that is by state law. The States elect the POTUS, via the mechanism of the Electoral College.

But that mechanism involves the “appointment” of people who cast ballots, not the casting of ballots by the states themselves.

The thinking of the framers is IMHO illustrated by the fall-back position in the event that the Electors don’t vote in a majority for any one candidate. Namely, the House of Representatives - with each state delegation casting a single vote - elects the POTUS. In such case, there is no direct link between the popular vote and the vote for POTUS. That would be a great way to elect a Republican POTUS - I haven’t researched the question, but I venture to suggest that a majority of the state delegations in the House are majority Republican. Note that CA, NY, and IL are cancelled out by AK, OK, and AL in that voting scheme.

Now that would cause a real uproar among the Demos!


20 posted on 07/03/2019 12:32:44 PM PDT by conservatism_IS_compassion (Socialism is cynicism directed towards society and - correspondingly - naivete towards government.)
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