The Truth About Q-Anon

Dr. Seb Gorka homepage ^ | April 8, 2019 | Dr. Seb Gorka

[romanesq]

During the 2018 Midterms in the United States, strange signs started appearing at political rallies. Held up by non-descript attendees, the signs read simply, “We are Q.” For those Trekkers out there, you might be confused: no, these rallygoers were not making an oblique reference to the infamous Star Trek: The Next Generation character portrayed by John de Lancie. The group appeared from the fringes of internet chat rooms, such as on the website of 4Chan, a peculiar mixture of cyberpunks and various online misfits.

“Q” is derived from an anonymous poster on the internet forum, a source claiming to have a top secret clearance with the U.S. intelligence community. This person (or group of people) spun an intricate conspiracy theory that many Far Right activists on gonzo internet forums picked up and began disseminating to wider audiences online and in their communities.

The conspiracy goes like this: the real purpose of the Robert Mueller special counsel investigation was not to investigate Donald Trump, but instead to investigate Hillary Clinton, Barack Obama, and people like former Hillary Clinton campaign chairman, John Podesta. The QAnon conspiracy theory is far-reaching, with new pieces added with regularity, in the form of what Q supporters refer to as “breadcrumbs.” One such addition to the conspiracy theory last year was that the Mueller probe was also looking into the now-deceased Senator John McCain (R-AZ) for his illegal activities.

What is the ultimate end of the QAnon conspiracy; what does Mueller hope to achieve, according to them?

That part, like most conspiracy theories, is conveniently not knowable. The Mueller investigation, having ended in a whimper rather than the bang the Trump-hating Fake News was hoping for, should have been the end of the QAnon conspiracy theory. QAnon conspiracy theorists have simultaneously argued that the ultimate target of the Mueller investigation is either the “Deep State” of nefarious anti-American, globalist actors, or the aim is to pursue high-profile pedophiles in the United States government and in other powerful circles related to the government.

QAnon’s Pernicious Connections to “Pizzagate”

Now for the most pernicious aspect of the QAnon conspiracy theory. In 2016, conspiracists on 4Chan and other similar fringe messaging boards claimed that the emails stolen from Hillary Clinton campaign chairman John Podesta’s (and subsequently made public by WikiLeaks) contained secret messages referring to a powerful ring of pedophiles who were using a local Washington, D.C. pizzeria as a base of operations to conduct their crimes. None of these claims were true. But, what ended up happening was that the highly irresponsible conspiracy theory triggered a mentally unstable man, who in turn took a gun to a D.C. pizzeria with intent to use it.

The source material for these theories is the vile, uber-fringe 4Chan and 8Chan. 4Chan was launched in 2003 as a place to share images and discuss Japanese anime. In fact, it was modeled on the Japanese anime internet boards, such as Futaba Channel. Over time, though, the already eclectic group of online personalities that 4Chan attracted devolved into something darker. It became a haven for crazed conspiracy theorists from both sides of the political divide. 4Chan also became popular among the white nationalist community, and also became a place for hackers and other criminals–including child pornographers. If there was a Hell on the internet, 4Chan was Hell.

Meanwhile, a similar website, created by gonzo software developer, Frederick Brennan, 8Chan was launched in 2013 as a response to what Brennan believed was the rise in authoritarianism, censorship, and surveillance on 4Chan. Despite the fact that 8Chan has become the 3,857th most viewed website in the world, with an average of 35,000 unique visitors per day and 400,000 original posts per day, it too has become mired in controversy. 8Chan, which has been billed as the more libertarian (though, perhaps libertine would be better) 4Chan, has apparently become a hub of international child pornography postings. This became such a problem that, in 2015, 8Chan was blacklisted by Google search. It is a profound understatement to claim that anything positive or good comes from these boards. Yet, it is precisely from sites like these that the “Pizzagate” and now the QAnon conspiracy theories emanate.

Alternative media figures, such as Mike Cernovich, have also furthered the “Pizzagate” and QAnon conspiracy theories. Some of these individuals have massive social media followings. With big internet names furthering the conspiracies, it was only a matter of time before disaster struck. In 2016, when the pizzeria shooting happened, several media outlets attempted to lay the blame at the feet of people like Cernovich. This only gave the Fake News Industrial Complex more fuel in their ongoing war against President Trump and the Right.

The very same group of internet Alt-Right activists and online forums that furthered the “Pizzagate” conspiracy have also spread the QAnon conspiracy theory.

Here are some of the other bizarre, totally inaccurate predictions that QAnon has made:

01/21/18 – A flood was alleged to be coming. A flood consisting of various forms of media that I imagine were supposed to implicate somebody in something nefarious. Sadly, this flood never came.

01/21/18 – Q makes some very certain claims about the Nunes Memo, which of course do not come remotely true when the memo is released a couple weeks later.

01/22/18 – Q posts a confirmed fake Podesta email, then promptly deletes it. But not before his followers have time to notice. 02/09/18 – Next week [Next week] was declared ‘suicide weekend‘. Nothing came to pass.

02/21/18 – Q predicts that the founder of Twitter is removing accounts because he and his Deep State friends are in deep trouble. Nothing came to pass.

03/15/18 – Q declares ‘March Madness’ and that ‘the public will soon know’. Nothing came to pass.

04/02/18 – April was supposed to be a “BIG month“, full of happenings including but not limited to arrests, the release of the IG report, the wall, “military start”, and unsealed indictments. Nothing came to pass.

Where Does QAnon Go From Here?

Things have gotten even stranger for the QAnon conspiracists now that Special Counsel Robert Mueller has submitted his final report. While the report has not yet been made public, Attorney General William Barr has seen it, and he has issued a summary of the report.

AG Barr explains that Mueller has not proven any collusion or coordination between President Donald Trump, his top 2016 campaign staffers, and Russian intelligence. The focus of the investigation was Donald Trump and his 2016 presidential campaign. Hillary Clinton, Barack Obama, John Podesta, or even John McCain were not targets of the Mueller probe in any way as Q promised.

The fact that the QAnon conspiracy theory is tied in with the “Pizzagate” fiasco is bad enough. The more damaging part is that these cult-like actors link themselves to the Trump movement, despite the fact that no member of the Trump movement has anything to do with these insane theories. They are the outgrowth of a pathetic group who exist online, in the dark corners of the worldwide web. That they have attached their delusions to the Trump movement is unfortunate.

But, they do not represent and are not affiliated with President Trump, his supporters, or those who work for the president.

Recently, some Q supporters have insisted that certain pictures of President Trump and key advisers in the White House “prove” that they are, in fact, members of the Q conspiracy because their positioning makes it appear as though they are displaying subliminal messages about Q. These internet personalities claim to be supporting the President. Yet, consistently, their actions have shown that they are not allies of the President. They damage and besmirch the Trump movement with their irresponsible actions.

In that their actions, both directly and indirectly, aid those who would do damage to the Make America Great Again Agenda and see it fail. Whoever Q or QAnon may be, they are most decidedly not close to the President, they are not Conservatives, and with every post they make, they subvert the MAGA Agenda.

[Admin Moderator]

And since you don’t know when to clam up - I’ll assist you.

With all due respect.

[romanesq]

I’m not reading any of your QAnon hoax-scamming links.

Besides, in this entire threat, not only did you repeatedly not answer a simple question as it would put you on tilt but not a single one of the conned Qult faithful remotely attempted to correct the numerous facts listed in Seb Gorka’s article.

None of you even looked at any of it and “researched it for yourself.”
That’s the bonafide sign of a true cult. Wanting to be conned and insisting on staying conned!

Anyway, the proofs are not only there but coming out regularly just like the Russia Collusion Hoax. For those who have a semblance of thinking for themselves, Magacoalition.com has plenty of proofs about the Q scam.

[Sister Marita Charles]

Qanon The web’s new Book of Revelations.

[Stravinsky]

The author doesn’t fully understand the chans and the differences between them, but he’s right that Qanon is garbage. It’s a shame because there is real research and work to be done regarding conspiracy theories/deep state shenanigans.

[romanesq]

Perhaps that may be to some extent true Stravinsky. I doubt that Dr. Gorka would spend much time on an obscure wacky 8Chan board. Even someone familiar with the internet would have trouble navigating that slime.

There’s a new article out today which highlights a lot of the more rational discussion as you did here. The article details some factual references about one especially prolific QAnon grifter and how he was seen in photos with Magacoaltion before they later discovered him later doing the Q “decoding” thing.

The author gets the basics of the story on target accurate:
https://www.dailydot.com/layer8/praying-medic-maga-coalition-qanon/?tw=share

[Stravinsky]

Interesting article. Thanks.

[BiggBob]

Magacoalition.com has plenty of proofs

Then how come you still can't post the one that shows where it says Mueller and Trump are working together. Like you have claimed several times on this thread alone?

And was posted about just hours ago?

Why is there a constant flow of disinformation being pushed re: Q? Example: Disinformation push re: Mueller is a white hat. FAKE & FALSE narrative.

[Conservative Gato]

Still spamming magacoalition.com???

I guess you ignored a post earlier in the thread where they discovered the owner(s) of the site are hiding behind an anonymous organization. If they were legit, why hide? Why not be transparent so we know who is the real owner of the site?

I guess you never read what Neon Revolt suspected during his research and another person’s research in to maga coalition. He suspected money laundering going on with the organization and he listed his reasons why. I linked his research earlier in this thread and you completely ignored it. I can understand why if you are only here to pimp the site.

Neon Revolt doesn’t always claim to get it right but at least he’s up front about it and has been right much more than wrong. He even outed Microchip’s fake claim to being the original Q and showed the world exactly how Microchip faked his claim.

There is plenty there to be very skeptical of the website, magacoalition.com, you are pimping here.

CGato

[romanesq]

I could care less what pro-grifting Neon Quvolt says about anything since it’s nothing but a Q scam-front. You seem to believe it like it’s the last Gospel of Christ.

There are only three people on the PAC. They are hardly a secret. It’s public!

Frankly, I find it amusing to see these Alinsky type attacks on a small pro-Trump PAC. Anyone who would spend three minutes looking at its FEC report would see there’s a lot of lying and not much else behind the attacks. Yet, we keep hearing the same Qult-like phrases repeated over and over.

Why don’t you research it yourself then and try to formulate an argument?
You state there is plenty there to be very skeptical” about Magacoaltion.com

Well, then what are you waiting for exactly?

Oh and check out this article. It will rattle some Q skulls too:
https://www.dailydot.com/layer8/praying-medic-maga-coalition-qanon/?tw=share

But I see no amount of fact will alter this Scientology-like grip. One thing that is obvious, some people are not researching anything whatsoever. They are parroting.

[BiggBob]

The dailydot?

Lol

I guess there was nothing available on BuzzFeed

[Conservative Gato]

Neon Revolt has been a pretty good researcher, for the most part. I delve in to many researchers work around the net so he's not the only one I read. He did bust up the first attempt on someone claiming to be Q. That's a big plus in his column.

Not only did he suspect maga coalition was a money laundering scheme, he also noticed the coordination between several different online social media personas and their coordinated talking points. One of them was the use of "grifters". His investigation in to maga coalition was thought provoking and worth consideration.

Since you are nothing but a cheerleader for magacoalition.com, I will post NR's research again for those to read and decide for themselves. It is long and starts about a third way down the page.

https://www.neonrevolt.com/2019/04/08/qanon-is-garbage-freetheboomers-how-about-arrestadamgingrich-gingrich_of_pa-instead-greatawakening-neonrevolt/

Nice projection with the Alinsky. There have been plenty of posters who have posted links to their claims and it's you that continues to brush them off in your rah, rah postings for magacoalition.com. Many here have brought many sources and you pimp one main organization, magacoalition.com in many of your posts. There is a reason the President and his Q team called them out and we'll eventually see why. There is no stopping what is coming.

CGato

[Conservative Gato]

The dailydot?

Lol

I guess there was nothing available on BuzzFeed

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Yeah, it’s all bogus. At least he’s all-in for being a cheerleader for maga coalition. We have to give him that, LOL.

CGato

[grey_whiskers]

Dr. Seb Gorka unleashes a torrent of truth against the QAnon grift.

Nope.

He gets a LOT of things wrong; attributes speculations to Q which Q never said; lumps other things together, and in general makes a hash of it.

On the other hand, that could be willful misdirection because some of the Deep State were getting too close to parts of Q; or because the time isn't right for Q to be completely mainstreamed yet.

As far as Q being garbage, one of the web interpreters, or a couple, pointed out that Gorka calling Q garbage, was related to some of the deep state calling either Q garbage, or the people that follow Q garbage. What YOU left out, is that about this time, the real, honest-to-goodness White House, had a garbage can mysteriously appear in view in one of its upper windows. Hint hint, troll level: Galactic Grand Master and GodEmperor...

What all the people *attacking* Q always seem to forget, is that President Trump wasn't even supposed to survive the first Fox debate with Megyn Kelly.

One could spend an hour or so just listing all of the obstacles the President has overcome: but it has only been Q who has been holding up the morale of the Deplorables, that Trump was going to come out of the investigation unscathed, and that there was a whole , whole BUNCH of dirt on the Deep State people (Q was careful to say not D vs R, and that there are less truly corrupt than those that are more or less trapped or compromised).

Look at it this way.

Why does Jack Dempsey of Twitter openly manipulate trend counts to hide things favorable to Trump and the right, and allow the Krassenstein bots brothers to comment first on the President's Tweets? Why did Q have a tit-for-tat with Jack in real time showing that it was possible to displace the Krassenstein brothers?

There are other, more esoteric proofs, but that is one most people can grasp.

[stylin19a]

Rules say this thread shouldn’t even exist

[Robert DeLong]

Yep, reminders never hurt, but it still doesn’t make me buy QAnon. 8>) President Trump was heaven sent, of that I am convinced.

[grey_whiskers]

Q said that when DECLAS happens, Rod Rosenstein would be forced to recuse or resign.

By DECLAS, it means the full release of the unredacted FISA warrants against the Trump team.

DECLAS hasn't occurred yet.

...but it seems to be getting a bit closer.

And funny how all the delays, instead of leaving President Trump swinging in the wind, seem to be taking the wind out of his opponents' sails; ever since Muller stopped ("blockade removed"; speculation is that one or more of President Trump's children were in-less-than-total-good-faith-indicted).

[grey_whiskers]

But all that lying and the million zillion indictments and GITMO, suspending the US Constitution, no thanks.

Did you notice that during the Kavanaugh hearings, two different US Senators (Lindsay Grahamnesty and DiFiChiSpy) apparently asked out loud, in public, about military tribunals?

I don't recall such a question EVER being asked of a Supreme Court candidate before, do you?

[grey_whiskers]

Hey, didn’t the alleged Q say Rod Rosenstein was already gone?

Hyperlink to Q saying that directly or GTFO.

[BiggBob]

If you want to get ahead of the news curve read Posobiec!

Lol, did you mean If you want to be weeks behind?

Jack Posobiec
@JackPosobiec

Barr just nuked Qanon. He announced his spying investigation publicly. There was never any secret investigation, nor ever a reason for one to be kept secret. No secret Huber grand jury. Mueller wasnt a "white hat." There are no sealed indictments. Barr begins now.

Weird you guy say no Huber everything starts now

But Barr says otherwise

Barr says OIG fisa abuse report due

"The Office of the Inspector General has a pending investigation of the FISA process in the Russia investigation," Barr said. "I expect that will be complete in probably May or June, I am told.

Hey what's this?

Barr meeting Hubert what a coincidence. LOL

[grey_whiskers]

Hey, didn’t the alleged Q say Rod Rosenstein was already gone?

Screenshot with dropcode, of Q saying that directly, or GTFO.