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NY State Republicans Once Again Move To Split Up The State
Hotair ^ | 03/11/2019 | Jazz Shaw

Posted on 03/11/2019 1:39:15 PM PDT by SeekAndFind

This feature is brought to you by the Wouldn’t It Be Nice department of New York State News. After yet another wave of liberal policies being signed into law and sending more sensible citizens fleeing the state, New York Republicans have once again resurrected a favorite plan from days past. Republican Assemblyman David DiPietro has introduced a bill that would split up the Empire State into three sections. This wouldn’t result in two new states, but rather three autonomous regions, each with their own governor and legislature. (Washington Times)

For decades, David DiPietro has watched his community in western New York state decline while Democrats from the Big Apple run the show, but when they took over both houses of the legislature in January, he said, “Enough.”

The Republican assemblyman went out on a limb last month by introducing a bill that would divide New York into three autonomous regions, each controlled by its own governors and legislatures. He argues that what works for New York City is dragging the rest of the state into economic oblivion.

“Western New York, where I’m from, has the most population loss with 18- to 35-year-olds. Our kids are leaving the state in droves, the most anywhere in the country,” Mr. DiPietro said. “There’s no jobs. And New York City controls this.”

This is a curious plan to be sure, but assuming that it’s legal it would be easier than attempting to carve off a couple of new states. DiPietro seems to have adopted most of his plan from the Divide NYS Caucus, which has endorsed his bill already. You can read about it at the link, but they claim that this is the easiest legal framework available to achieve the goal.

Creating new states would require not only the consent of the state legislature but the approval of Congress. That’s unlikely in the extreme unless the Democrats manage to drop into the smallest minority in living memory. But under this plan, New York would bypass Congress entirely by leaving New York as a single state. The state constitution would be amended to provide for the three autonomous regions, each electing their own executive and legislative bodies. I don’t know if that would work or not, but I don’t recall hearing anything similar taking place in the history of the country.

Of course, being a simpler plan doesn’t translate into significantly better odds of success. The bill’s sponsor makes a reasonable point when he says that the first step would be for the GOP to recapture the state senate and assembly and put the plan into effect over the objections of the Democrats. But here’s the problem. Once the Republicans are in control, they control the whole state. This immediately removes most of the incentive to break it up. It’s tough to look at the long term picture when you’ve just been handed the levers of power.

As one of the voters of the beleaguered upstate region, I’d love to see anything along these lines happen. But I’ve also been watching the state government in action for a long time now and I’m not going to pretend that this plan is going anywhere in my lifetime.



TOPICS: Culture/Society; News/Current Events; US: New York
KEYWORDS: 2ndamendment; banglist; daviddipietro; newyork; newyorkcity; nra; republicans; secession; secondamendment
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And just like the split up California movement, it will just wither in the vine.
1 posted on 03/11/2019 1:39:15 PM PDT by SeekAndFind
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2 posted on 03/11/2019 1:40:23 PM PDT by SeekAndFind (look at Michigan, it will)
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And how could it succeed?

The dems have power and everything comes down to a vote.

Doesn’t wither.

It never gets to grow at all to begin with.


3 posted on 03/11/2019 1:41:12 PM PDT by dp0622 (The Left should know if.. Trump is kicked out of office, it is WAR!)
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Too stupid to realize all that will result is two more RAT Senators.
The GOP needs to stand for the American People and stop with doing RAT-Lite


4 posted on 03/11/2019 1:42:06 PM PDT by Zathras
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Here’s the website for the proposal:

https://www.newamsterdamny.org/


5 posted on 03/11/2019 1:43:16 PM PDT by SeekAndFind (look at Michigan, it will)
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6 posted on 03/11/2019 1:43:52 PM PDT by SeekAndFind (look at Michigan, it will)
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Ping.


7 posted on 03/11/2019 1:44:10 PM PDT by Army Air Corps (Four Fried Chickens and a Coke)
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Too bad they could split NY up and California and let the liberal portions become satellite countries of Venezuela.


8 posted on 03/11/2019 1:45:14 PM PDT by maddog55
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Where does the NYS Republican Party stand on this? Oh that’s right, NY doesn’t have an organized GOP state party.


9 posted on 03/11/2019 1:46:34 PM PDT by 1Old Pro
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RE: Too stupid to realize all that will result is two more RAT Senators.

Not necessarily. Here's a map of the results of the 2016 elections:



The Redder and more pinkish the region, the more Trump got the votes. The more bluish and Darker bluish the region the more Hillary got the votes.

As you can see, New York City (what the proposal calls the EMPIRE REGION ) OVERCAME the rest of the state by the sheer size of its population.
10 posted on 03/11/2019 1:48:40 PM PDT by SeekAndFind (look at Michigan, it will)
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11 posted on 03/11/2019 1:51:13 PM PDT by SeekAndFind (look at Michigan, it will)
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Poor Long Island is trapped.

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12 posted on 03/11/2019 1:51:27 PM PDT by Mears
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I live in an extremely red county!!
If NY splits into two or three parts, that one rat better watch out! For all we know, maybe, just maybe manhattan will turn red!!


13 posted on 03/11/2019 1:59:51 PM PDT by 1_Rain_Drop
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Carve off New York City and let it drift out to sea...

Barry Goldwater suggested this in 1963.


14 posted on 03/11/2019 2:04:56 PM PDT by alloysteel (Inside every cynical person, there is a disappointed idealist. George Carlin)
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Nassau and Westchester are too dependent on NYC to be separated. Suffolk might work, especially if its towns became counties. It is not the bedroom community Nassau is. One upstate entity is doomed. Schenectady, Rochester and Johnson City are very different. Though it would be interesting if the Southern Tier could allow fracking.


15 posted on 03/11/2019 2:15:53 PM PDT by xkaydet65
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Just take it back. You all were part of the Original 13 colonies...you don’t know how to do it??


16 posted on 03/11/2019 2:18:38 PM PDT by WKUHilltopper
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When I look at that map, it appears the New York City and Montauk portions are New York State’s butt.

Maybe I see it that way because I live in Central New York and have developed a contemptous attitude toward liberal downstate.


17 posted on 03/11/2019 2:20:50 PM PDT by jigsaw (God Bless Our Wonderful Troops!)
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Evacuation plans for Long Island tend to be amusing reading-—if you have a very dark sense of humor. :-(


18 posted on 03/11/2019 2:35:45 PM PDT by cgbg (Democracy dies in darkness when Bezos bans books.)
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Downstate IL and interior CA are heavily GOP.

Democrats aren’t going to agree to that and an upstate NY proposal for one reason.

It would dilute their power. Such splits will happen when pigs can fly.


19 posted on 03/11/2019 2:52:54 PM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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Two (or more) new Rat Senators?


20 posted on 03/11/2019 3:11:05 PM PDT by Gay State Conservative (Mitt Romney: Bringing Massachusetts Values To The Great State Of Utah.)
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