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Pence chastises EU, rejects Merkel's call to work with Russia
Reuters ^ | 16 Feb 2019 | Robin Emmott, Paul Carrel

Posted on 02/16/2019 10:29:04 PM PST by blueplum

MUNICH (Reuters) - U.S. Vice President Mike Pence rebuked European powers over Iran and Venezuela on Saturday in a renewed attack on Washington’s traditional allies, rejecting a call by Germany’s chancellor to include Russia in global cooperation efforts.

In speeches and in private talks at the Munich Security Conference, Pence and Chancellor Angela Merkel laid out competing visions for how the West should address world crises. ...

(Excerpt) Read more at reuters.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Foreign Affairs; Germany; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; Russia; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: antisemitism; antizionism; eu; eurabia; eurasianunion; eussr; fourthreich; germany; globalism; iran; liberalagenda; merkel; molotovribbentrop; munich; munichsecurityconf; nato; nordstreampipeline; pence; rop; russia; securityconference; venezuela; viertesreich
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To: blueplum
She's getting back to her roots.

21 posted on 02/17/2019 2:29:49 AM PST by jmcenanly ("The more corrupt the state, the more laws." Tacitus, Publius Cornelius)
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To: jospehm20

Easy fix: Abandon the bases in Germany and move them to Poland.


22 posted on 02/17/2019 2:53:47 AM PST by marajade (Skywalker)
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To: DoughtyOne

Ivanka is only due praise insofar as she outwardly backs her father’s presidency.

That from within she is pulling it to the left every chance she gets — and is responsible for Kushner being in there mucking everything up while also pulling to the left is indefensible.

Her general vapidity and constant insinuation into events involving world political and business powers is sickening.


23 posted on 02/17/2019 3:00:54 AM PST by 9YearLurker
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To: Recharged71

As Churchill said of Germany: The Hun, he’s either at your throat or at your feet.


24 posted on 02/17/2019 4:25:44 AM PST by Bookshelf
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To: blueplum

Merkel and Putin were in similar youth commi camps at the same age...

She is a snake. Cant believe the Germans still put up with her...

The French so far have understood.


25 posted on 02/17/2019 5:04:23 AM PST by JudgemAll (Democrats Fed. job-security in hate:hypocrites must be gay like us or be tested/crucified)
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To: blueplum

And what the eff is a global effort?

It is a Venezuelian people EFFORT you effin globalist pompous disconnected btch


26 posted on 02/17/2019 5:06:06 AM PST by JudgemAll (Democrats Fed. job-security in hate:hypocrites must be gay like us or be tested/crucified)
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To: marajade

Yep. IF we’re going to stay in Europe at all we should certainly pull the troops out of Germany - which is obviously not an ally - and move them to Poland which is a real ally.


27 posted on 02/17/2019 5:35:29 AM PST by FLT-bird
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To: jospehm20

You don’t understand what they’ve been building for the past seventy years, then. There’s a reason why one of the purposes of NATO was to “keep the Germans down”.


28 posted on 02/17/2019 6:34:31 AM PST by Olog-hai ("No Republican, no matter how liberal, is going to woo a Democratic vote." -- Ronald Reagan, 1960)
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To: blueplum

Old Man Yells at Cloud.


29 posted on 02/17/2019 8:01:27 AM PST by CharleysPride (Peace, Freedom and Prosperity. Thank you, President Trump.)
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To: blueplum

Herr Merkel has the hots for Macron.


30 posted on 02/17/2019 8:02:59 AM PST by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn)
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To: Recharged71

Germany and Russia working together. Where have I heard of that happening before? ...


31 posted on 02/17/2019 8:04:49 AM PST by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn)
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To: blueplum

Pence is not right. He is politicizing a purely commercial issue. The more supply of hydrocarbons the better for Europe. No Russian energy project prohibits similar projects by other players.
I see no problem with beating the Russians in a fair competition.


32 posted on 02/17/2019 8:18:25 AM PST by NorseViking
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To: Olog-hai

I guess you know it all. Whatever.


33 posted on 02/17/2019 11:03:08 AM PST by jospehm20
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To: jospehm20
I don’t understand your ad lapidem. All I’m saying is that there is too much evidence of the EU’s intent and that withdrawal would facilitate their desires.
34 posted on 02/17/2019 2:56:46 PM PST by Olog-hai ("No Republican, no matter how liberal, is going to woo a Democratic vote." -- Ronald Reagan, 1960)
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To: Olog-hai

I think we should mind our own business. I really couldn’t care less what Europeans have planned for Europe. As long as we are smart enough to not get sucked into a European war again, we’ll be fine.


35 posted on 02/17/2019 5:34:25 PM PST by jospehm20
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To: kabar

Those are interesting things to note, considering Merkel urging us to work closer with Russia.

You know what, I have urged pretty much the same thing over time. It’s her puddin head ideas and other actions that leave me not trusting her at all.

It has been my opinion that after the U. S. S. R. fell, the US didn’t do enough to become close friends. I don’t mean blindly, but with some insight and intelligence.

It was my take we made a massive mistake not having our president go to the memorial for Belsan in 2005. We could have shown a lot of sympathy and the Russian people would never have forgotten it.

We took a pass.

All nations like to feel important. Russia after being the U. S. S. R., was no different. We could have pulled them onto some inconsequential international boards. We could have given it’s leadership some props. Instead we seemed to relish it being in the dumps. That was a huge mistake.

It caused the leadership of Russia to drift apart from us. We made a big deal out of the U. S. S. R. folding, then failed to help it over the hump. I think some in Russia felt betrayed by that.

They in effect went Western, and what did we do? We cozened up to China, a Communist state, and left Russia flopping in the wind.

I’m never going to word this just right, but if folks try to think of the best way for us to avoid trouble down the road, it would have been to pull Russia closer, and be involved in it’s plans for the future.

We just abandoned that, and I think it was unfortunate.

Look, I don’t trust Putin any farther than I can drop kick him, but having a relationship is better than having him go off setting up alliances with nations like China against us.

I think we would have done better.


36 posted on 02/17/2019 6:36:43 PM PST by DoughtyOne
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To: DoughtyOne

“the Russian people would never have forgotten it.”

I agree. I wouldn’t.


37 posted on 02/17/2019 6:39:29 PM PST by combat_boots (God bless Israel and all who protect and defend her! Merry Christmas! In God We Trust!)
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To: jospehm20

Lots of people could not have cared less what Europeans had planned for Europe in 1941 either. We did not “get sucked into a European war”—Germany declared war on us.

A lot of what the USA is going through right now is directly the result of EU influence, take note.


38 posted on 02/17/2019 6:40:21 PM PST by Olog-hai ("No Republican, no matter how liberal, is going to woo a Democratic vote." -- Ronald Reagan, 1960)
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To: 9YearLurker

I’m not pleased at some of the stuff she does either.

In the end, he is supervising her.

I’ve defended her in the past. She is doing things he has tasked her to do. Tossing out a bone in the form of supporting women globally, is going to play well in certain quarters.

As for polishing Merkel’s apple, I’m not a big fan. It’s what you do when you go abroad. She wouldn’t be the one to criticize her. Trump will do enough of that on his own IMO.

If Merkel gets kudos from an offshoot of the Executive Branch, it’s going to make it easier for her to swallow the main criticism when it comes.

I’m just providing an alternative thing to consider.

I didn’t like seeing her championing Merkel. I think Merkel has been a terrible leader.


39 posted on 02/17/2019 6:59:02 PM PST by DoughtyOne
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To: combat_boots

Is that a good “I wouldn’t”, or do you think I’m off base there?


40 posted on 02/17/2019 7:16:51 PM PST by DoughtyOne
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